Knock Sensor ISSUES (long explanation, sorry hehe)
#1
Knock Sensor ISSUES (long explanation, sorry hehe)
Okay, Here's The DILLY, lol
Well, A while Back, I had The Front Left O2 sensor go on me...Due to a SERIOUS lack of money, I left the sensor for awhile...It was odd tho, the only time the CEL would come on, was when i really got on the car for an extended period of time. (i knew that the O2 sensor was bad, even thought the light wasn't always on, b/c i was getting 17mpg on lucky days) After about a week of having a bad O2 sensor, when the light came on again, i pulled the code to make sure it was still 0303...it was, and 0304 too! I was informed by a friend that the Knock Sensor Code is often just a ghost code... Well i changed the faulty o2 sensor, and BING, 23mpg and no more CEL under any circumstance...However, when i went to reset my ecu after installing new o2, i was still getting 0304! So i reset, and have been driving for about a month now...Then i remebered the code, so i decided to slap the Car into diagnostic again...ALAS, still gettin 0304...! I wonder if i should change it! i mean, i AM getting a consistent 22-23mpg...and my car seems to have plenty of power...i whomped a modded cavalier Z24 the other day like it was no one's business...
I don't understand why i have this lurking code, and no CEL, doesn't make sense...i have found someone selling a brand new Knock sensor for 100...should i just jump on it and change it? HELP ME!
Well, A while Back, I had The Front Left O2 sensor go on me...Due to a SERIOUS lack of money, I left the sensor for awhile...It was odd tho, the only time the CEL would come on, was when i really got on the car for an extended period of time. (i knew that the O2 sensor was bad, even thought the light wasn't always on, b/c i was getting 17mpg on lucky days) After about a week of having a bad O2 sensor, when the light came on again, i pulled the code to make sure it was still 0303...it was, and 0304 too! I was informed by a friend that the Knock Sensor Code is often just a ghost code... Well i changed the faulty o2 sensor, and BING, 23mpg and no more CEL under any circumstance...However, when i went to reset my ecu after installing new o2, i was still getting 0304! So i reset, and have been driving for about a month now...Then i remebered the code, so i decided to slap the Car into diagnostic again...ALAS, still gettin 0304...! I wonder if i should change it! i mean, i AM getting a consistent 22-23mpg...and my car seems to have plenty of power...i whomped a modded cavalier Z24 the other day like it was no one's business...
I don't understand why i have this lurking code, and no CEL, doesn't make sense...i have found someone selling a brand new Knock sensor for 100...should i just jump on it and change it? HELP ME!
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The KS code 0304 is set when the KS produces a voltage signal outside the acceptable range.
This may be caused by excessive knock and ping.
Make sure your engine is running right before you change the KS.
High carbon deposits will cause some engine ping on high mileage cars.
The 0304 code that gets constantly set may be telling you something about how your car is running, rather then the sensor itself being the issue.
This may be caused by excessive knock and ping.
Make sure your engine is running right before you change the KS.
High carbon deposits will cause some engine ping on high mileage cars.
The 0304 code that gets constantly set may be telling you something about how your car is running, rather then the sensor itself being the issue.
#5
O.K. well, I just did a whole $hitload of maintenace things...Changed oil, Fuel Filter, O2 sensor, Cleaned Throttle body, and PCV...New Alternator...I'm also about to do my plugs...
I have Just Under 75,000Miles...
Does this tell you anything njmaxseltd?
Kyle
How can I "make sure the car is running right"
before I change my sensor?
I have Just Under 75,000Miles...
Does this tell you anything njmaxseltd?
Kyle
How can I "make sure the car is running right"
before I change my sensor?
#7
Well FLO_BOY, I do, and I am just kinda ****ed, cuz I have done SOOOO many repairs on this car...I will be psyched when they are all sorted out and i can save money for MODS, and not for REPAIRS!
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It's really hard to say 97, sounds like you've got your maintenance all up to par. Reset it again, drive around going easy on the throttle for a week and see if the code comes back. Play a bit, if you can't get the code to go away for more then a week, replace the sensor.
#10
To check if ur KS is working, do the following. Disconnect the KS from the harness. Use a Ohm-meter (set to measuring at least 10 M-ohms), check for continuity between the two terminals of the KS connector. If there is an open ciruit then u got a mested up KS buddy it needs to be replaced. For more info on checking and replacing ur KS check out dis site http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/507
#13
a bit slugish on the low end and sometimes weak starts, ie doesn't start up right away on cold starts, needs a bit of throttle. Many people don't notice the performance drop but usually always notice the performance increase after replacing a bad knock sensor. Replace the sensor, its bad. The diagnostics are correct, trust the ECU. $100 is great price. Use premium gas as required by manual.
#14
Re: excuse the newbie, but
Originally posted by solar2000
how do you tell if your sensors (any of them) go bad??
how do you tell if your sensors (any of them) go bad??
#16
A factory manual is for serious mechanics and for those who want to get the job done in the most cost effective way. It blows away Chiltons and Haynes. If you want to service your car like a professional, use a professional tool. The payback will occur in the first repair.
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If you really want to know if the KS is working properly or not get or borrow and OBDII reader. It will give you a constant readout of the engine timing. Take it out and do a WOT run in 2nd or 3rd and monitor the timing.
Then, insert a 470k Ohm resisitor in the KS plug. Just disconnect and insert the resisitor across the plug that goes back to the computer.
Take it out again and compare timing readings. If they are the same the KS is ok. If your timing is being pulled back then your KS is bad or you have a knock problem.
Then, insert a 470k Ohm resisitor in the KS plug. Just disconnect and insert the resisitor across the plug that goes back to the computer.
Take it out again and compare timing readings. If they are the same the KS is ok. If your timing is being pulled back then your KS is bad or you have a knock problem.
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