Why only one stripe when burnout??!!??
06-29-2003, 08:00 AM
#5
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If you are on perfectly level ground and then dump it, you should have two. I always do.
If you are turning slightly, or the road is tilted left/right, one tire will cut loose before the other, then all the power goes to the one with least resistance, and she keeps spinning.
If you can't produce two burns, then there has to be a problem.
I'm guessing though that it's strickly environmental.
The one benefit to no Traction Controll is full power to the road.
TC will apply brakes to the wheel that spins quicker, thus transfering more torque to the other wheel.
dave h.
If you are turning slightly, or the road is tilted left/right, one tire will cut loose before the other, then all the power goes to the one with least resistance, and she keeps spinning.
If you can't produce two burns, then there has to be a problem.
I'm guessing though that it's strickly environmental.
The one benefit to no Traction Controll is full power to the road.
TC will apply brakes to the wheel that spins quicker, thus transfering more torque to the other wheel.
dave h.
06-29-2003, 08:01 AM
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well when i got my new yoko's, i gave my last set of tires a "going away" treat, and i got a couple burnt outs, but i left 2 tire marks each time?!?! That puzzled me since im pretty damn sure i dont have LSD...
Anyone else have an experience like that?! IF my cam wasnt old, i would upload it onto the net...Its not computer compatible or some ****...
Eric
Anyone else have an experience like that?! IF my cam wasnt old, i would upload it onto the net...Its not computer compatible or some ****...
Eric
07-01-2003, 12:15 AM
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A lot of factors decide the stripes...one of your wheels generally has more power distributed to it, this problem is common in Nissan, but its nothing to worry about. Ground elevation change, tires, torque steer all affect which wheel will slip. Also dont forget weight distribution, the side you drive on has your weight added above your right front, pushing that tire in to the pavement harder than your right. Ive seen dozens of different cars lay down one stripe only.
07-01-2003, 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by max002
with crap tires I got 2 stripes when burning out
with new max performance tires i got one stripe and it was the right front wheel.
with crap tires I got 2 stripes when burning out
with new max performance tires i got one stripe and it was the right front wheel.
hehe.. Its really quite stupid how cars/trucks without LSD or locking differentials work. Didn't the designers realize that the tire with no friction isn't going to do much in terms of getting the car moving?.. At least Mercedes has the right idea with the G500, 3 locking differentials, I just hope more car companies catch on.
07-01-2003, 01:43 AM
#11
Originally posted by ch13f
Thats kinda weird, my rear drivers side wheel usually is the one leaving marks
hehe.. Its really quite stupid how cars/trucks without LSD or locking differentials work. Didn't the designers realize that the tire with no friction isn't going to do much in terms of getting the car moving?.. At least Mercedes has the right idea with the G500, 3 locking differentials, I just hope more car companies catch on.
Thats kinda weird, my rear drivers side wheel usually is the one leaving marks
hehe.. Its really quite stupid how cars/trucks without LSD or locking differentials work. Didn't the designers realize that the tire with no friction isn't going to do much in terms of getting the car moving?.. At least Mercedes has the right idea with the G500, 3 locking differentials, I just hope more car companies catch on.
if you want to do burnouts and leave marks, go buy a Durango, I can leave 4 marks, 1/2 throttle, and thats not 4wd low either. It also has a 50/50 split so its easy and precise to know where your going to go and how far when your turning and the rear end swings out then bites.
its all about the 9-1/4 3.92:1 Trac-Lok.
hehehe,
I hope that clears some of the one tire vs. 2 tire both LSD confusion up.
07-01-2003, 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by MrGone
Mercedes isnt on to anything. I believe the stock LSD is a 70/30 split, so if you have ****ty tires, you can get 2 marks, while if you have nice gripping tires, the 30% wont slip enough to leave rubber.
if you want to do burnouts and leave marks, go buy a Durango, I can leave 4 marks, 1/2 throttle, and thats not 4wd low either. It also has a 50/50 split so its easy and precise to know where your going to go and how far when your turning and the rear end swings out then bites.
its all about the 9-1/4 3.92:1 Trac-Lok.
hehehe,
I hope that clears some of the one tire vs. 2 tire both LSD confusion up.
Mercedes isnt on to anything. I believe the stock LSD is a 70/30 split, so if you have ****ty tires, you can get 2 marks, while if you have nice gripping tires, the 30% wont slip enough to leave rubber.
if you want to do burnouts and leave marks, go buy a Durango, I can leave 4 marks, 1/2 throttle, and thats not 4wd low either. It also has a 50/50 split so its easy and precise to know where your going to go and how far when your turning and the rear end swings out then bites.
its all about the 9-1/4 3.92:1 Trac-Lok.
hehehe,
I hope that clears some of the one tire vs. 2 tire both LSD confusion up.
07-02-2003, 08:24 AM
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The standard open differential design is perfect for the 95% of folks who use their cars purely for transportation and therefore don't do burnouts or get into low traction situations.
For the rest of us, a viscous or clutch type limited slip is the way to go. Having said that, I have never done a burnout in my car, even though I certainly am an adventurous driver sometimes. Why wreck your tires or CVshafts?
For the rest of us, a viscous or clutch type limited slip is the way to go. Having said that, I have never done a burnout in my car, even though I certainly am an adventurous driver sometimes. Why wreck your tires or CVshafts?
07-03-2003, 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by maximizd97
Your REAR wheel leaves the mark?? was that a typo or did you leave the E brake on, lol
Your REAR wheel leaves the mark?? was that a typo or did you leave the E brake on, lol
. Oh and Mercedes IS on to something with the 3 locking differentials, maybe it isn't the best thing for 4 wheel burnouts but if you have 3 tires in the mud and one on solid ground, you'll be able to get out, unlike almost all other SUVs.
07-03-2003, 01:39 AM
#23
Originally posted by ch13f
I was joking / poking fun at the guy who said it was his one _front_ tire leaving the mark... well, obviously the front one is leaving the rubber, hence FWD. Oh and Mercedes IS on to something with the 3 locking differentials, maybe it isn't the best thing for 4 wheel burnouts but if you have 3 tires in the mud and one on solid ground, you'll be able to get out, unlike almost all other SUVs.
I was joking / poking fun at the guy who said it was his one _front_ tire leaving the mark... well, obviously the front one is leaving the rubber, hence FWD
. Oh and Mercedes IS on to something with the 3 locking differentials, maybe it isn't the best thing for 4 wheel burnouts but if you have 3 tires in the mud and one on solid ground, you'll be able to get out, unlike almost all other SUVs.
or just mash the pedal to the ground [H] style and let the drive train do its work
(Durango = trac-lok rear end = both wheels have equal power, and an open front, plus 3.92:1 and hella torque, I see no problems.) besides, who will ever take a mercades in the mud????
07-03-2003, 09:09 PM
#25
I too always thought that, but then the Invoice on the Durango clearly states LSD, and well, it leaves 2 lines. Its all just a matter of the ammount of pressure on each tire, its easier to get booth wheels spinning on the durango because they are an equal distance from the differiential, while the maxima has different length drive shafts.
go tinker around and learn, maybe air up the passanger tire will net you some more acceptable results
MrGone
go tinker around and learn, maybe air up the passanger tire will net you some more acceptable results
MrGone
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