Oil-soaked spark plug!
06-29-2003, 01:20 PM
#1
Oil-soaked spark plug!
I was checking the plugs on my car today. I finished checking the front ones (under the plastic facia), all is good! I proceeded checking the rear ones (next to the firewall). The first one is good too but the second (middle, #3) one is soaked in oil! The rubber end of the coil pack has a nice crack in it also. I couldn't check the last one (#5) because the spark plug coil screws won't come off with a regular screw driver and I don't have an 8mm socket to get to it. All plugs are Bosch Platinum except for the one that is soak in oil. It's a Champion plug which I'm not sure why its there. I have a feeling that I might be looking at a valve seal or piston ring job. 
What do you all think? I am not too crazy about doing this myself especially since I don't have all the tools necessary for an engine job. Has anyone had similar thing done to their engine and how much did it cost? I'm also going to check with my friend's mechanic to find out.
What do you all think? I am not too crazy about doing this myself especially since I don't have all the tools necessary for an engine job. Has anyone had similar thing done to their engine and how much did it cost? I'm also going to check with my friend's mechanic to find out.
06-29-2003, 03:48 PM
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Was the outside of the plug wet or the firing tip? Most likely the oil is only on the outside of the plug which means your valve cover seal is leaking. Very easy to replace and it's cheap too.
P.S. - Put the Champion plug back in your lawn mower and get a new NGK in there.
P.S. - Put the Champion plug back in your lawn mower and get a new NGK in there.
06-29-2003, 05:24 PM
#3
I went all over town looking for the NGK V-power plugs but noone has them on stock. And it would take a week to get them in and one of them told me that they are $18 each. Is it even legal to charge that much for one spark plug??? Anyhow, I ended up getting the OEM plugs, Denso's, not sure if they are Platinum because the box doesn't say anything. Suprisingly, it costs the same as the Bosch Platinum-4 plugs, $5 each. But I didn't get the Bosch because of everyones' experience about them here. I'm sure Denso is still better than Bosch since this is the manufacturer-brand used by Japanese car makers.
njmaxseltd, when I pulled the plug out, the oil was mostly around the threaded area, not sure if this is the outside of the plug. I would think that the outside of the plug is where the rubber end of the coil goes in on to connect to the non-firing side of plug.
Is it even legal to charge that much for one spark plug??? Anyhow, I ended up getting the OEM plugs, Denso's, not sure if they are Platinum because the box doesn't say anything. Suprisingly, it costs the same as the Bosch Platinum-4 plugs, $5 each. But I didn't get the Bosch because of everyones' experience about them here. I'm sure Denso is still better than Bosch since this is the manufacturer-brand used by Japanese car makers. njmaxseltd, when I pulled the plug out, the oil was mostly around the threaded area, not sure if this is the outside of the plug. I would think that the outside of the plug is where the rubber end of the coil goes in on to connect to the non-firing side of plug.
06-29-2003, 05:37 PM
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Sounds like it was your valve cover leaking. When you unscrew the plug, the oil that was laying in the plug hole naturally falls down the threads and into your cylinder as you pull the plug out. It just got burnt up when you started your car. The valve cover gasket kit comes with the 6 seals for the spark plug holes. It's probaby a good idea to change it when you've got some free time.
06-29-2003, 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by 2DaMax
I went all over town looking for the NGK V-power plugs but noone has them on stock. And it would take a week to get them in and one of them told me that they are $18 each. Is it even legal to charge that much for one spark plug???
I went all over town looking for the NGK V-power plugs but noone has them on stock. And it would take a week to get them in and one of them told me that they are $18 each.
Is it even legal to charge that much for one spark plug??? You can use BKR5E-11 (resistor type) instead of PFR5G-11.
06-29-2003, 09:41 PM
#7
Fo sho 95gxe_vl! Well, as I was letting my car cool down this afternoon so that I can replace the plugs, I called this Checkers store downtown, a little too far away for me to drive for spark plugs but I figured that since I'm doing this now, I might as well get the right thing. Turns out that they have plenty of the NGK V-power BKR5E-11 and they are only $2 a piece...WOW! I was surprised at this, since I paid $5 each for the Denso ones. I returned the Denso and got the NGK and ended up saving $20. I just finished putting them in, just got totally dark now. I've yet to test drive my car. The car did seem to idle a lot better, smoother. Now all I got to worry about is the leaking valve cover seal.
06-29-2003, 10:17 PM
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The ones you bought are cheap because they are not platinums. The valve cover gasket for the rear bank is a little bit difficult to get at because you have to remove the upper intake manifold.
Originally posted by 2DaMax
Fo sho 95gxe_vl! Well, as I was letting my car cool down this afternoon so that I can replace the plugs, I called this Checkers store downtown, a little too far away for me to drive for spark plugs but I figured that since I'm doing this now, I might as well get the right thing. Turns out that they have plenty of the NGK V-power BKR5E-11 and they are only $2 a piece...WOW! I was surprised at this, since I paid $5 each for the Denso ones. I returned the Denso and got the NGK and ended up saving $20. I just finished putting them in, just got totally dark now. I've yet to test drive my car. The car did seem to idle a lot better, smoother. Now all I got to worry about is the leaking valve cover seal.
Fo sho 95gxe_vl! Well, as I was letting my car cool down this afternoon so that I can replace the plugs, I called this Checkers store downtown, a little too far away for me to drive for spark plugs but I figured that since I'm doing this now, I might as well get the right thing. Turns out that they have plenty of the NGK V-power BKR5E-11 and they are only $2 a piece...WOW! I was surprised at this, since I paid $5 each for the Denso ones. I returned the Denso and got the NGK and ended up saving $20. I just finished putting them in, just got totally dark now. I've yet to test drive my car. The car did seem to idle a lot better, smoother. Now all I got to worry about is the leaking valve cover seal.
07-03-2003, 06:57 PM
#11
Well just in case anyone is remotely interested as this thing developes. I went to a Nissan dealer in town and got an estimate of $300 to replace the valve cover gaskets...both front and rear!!! That's even better than the mechanic's price down the street and its a dealer. This is the first time that a dealer's labor price is actually lower than others. I'm taking mine in next weekend.
07-03-2003, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by 2DaMax
I went to a mechanic today to find out how much it would cost me to pay someone else to replace the valve cover gaskets. His estimate is $400! Does this sound reasonable?
I went to a mechanic today to find out how much it would cost me to pay someone else to replace the valve cover gaskets. His estimate is $400! Does this sound reasonable?
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