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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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Who here has had sprints for at least 15000 miles? problems?

As stated above, who here has had their sprints installed for at least 15000 miles? I want to see what owners who have actually broken in their springs and put them to the test have to say about them. I really like the way they ride (with kyb agx struts) when new, but from what others have said on here, they tend to get far worst with some age. What kind of problems do you guys encounter. What kind of struts are you running with them? Are they riding like they were when new? Who uses them in the snow?

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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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had mine for 5 months....

ride was pretty good in summer, coupled with brand new KYB AGX ,
but when temps went down plus bad roads in chicago ride become very unplesant - got some H&R with blue Tokico's up front and I'm happy.

had this pic saved for while - it's somebody on .org


Sprints -

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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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Re: had mine for 5 months....

Originally posted by nick
ride was pretty good in summer, coupled with brand new KYB AGX ,
but when temps went down plus bad roads in chicago ride become very unplesant - got some H&R with blue Tokico's up front and I'm happy.

had this pic saved for while - it's somebody on .org


Sprints -

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Hehe...I knew you would post cause I remember you said you hated sprints from before. Everyone on here praises H&R...but the truth is, I hate them. I know they ride well, but the drop the provide looks really close to a stock SE in my opinion. So basically you are saying that sprints will start to sag quick eh? Hmm...
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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IMO - you alway get what you pay for ...

and Sprints are just that - all show(front) sticking out (back) and no go ....and its just matter of time before they sag and over work any struts.

and H&R are not even close to stock SE height !!!




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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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Re: IMO - you alway get what you pay for ...

Originally posted by nick
and Sprints are just that - all show(front) sticking out (back) and no go ....and its just matter of time before they sag and over work any struts.

and H&R are not even close to stock SE height !!!




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The H&R's look decent there. How much would you estimate that they dropped your car by? Was there a big difference in drop between the H&R and sprints?
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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I agree with the above comment about H&R's... They're too high... They're good for you people in places filled with potholes like NYC, but in places with decent roads, you can afford to lower your car a bit more so that non-Maxima owners can actually tell that your car is dropped... So far no complaints about Sprints, AGX/Sprints ride like the day i got them, crisp handling rear settled a bit...

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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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RE:

for measuremants click here http://maxima.cardomain.com/member_p...=348507&page=6

with Sprints front was sitting quite low , but the back was to high (i'm totally against cutting springs)

H&R's are even including stereo in the trunk.

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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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i've had my sprint/agx combo for a little over 15k miles, no problems here, my only complaint is like Nick said in the winter it gets hard and bumpy but its worth it to me for the stance.
JIC's are the ultimate goal :-)
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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Ive had the Sprint/AGX combo for a little over 20k and have no complaints.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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i got no complaints love the drop. had them on for about 15,000 miles 2nd winter coming soon.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by RastaManMax
I agree with the above comment about H&R's... They're too high... They're good for you people in places filled with potholes like NYC..........

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I wouldn't go that far. If you hit a good hole, you'll feel it. Plus slammed isn't good for performance. Show is another story.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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I wouldn't go that far. If you hit a good hole, you'll feel it. Plus slammed isn't good for performance. Show is another story.
I fail to see how sprints are 'slammed' though. Isn't the slammed look ususally created by coilovers? How are the sprint springs performance less than other springs, such as H&R? Just curious, as I will be looking to purchase a set of springs soon.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Had Sprints for about 10k.

Lost 2 axles due to bad Seattle Roads + Sprint combination, and while at first the ride was fine, 6 months later it was horrible. Everytime I hit the smallest bump it made my teeth rattle.

Switched to B&G's. The sag in the rear pretty bad, but I know that's because I have a stereo in my trunk and a big toolbox....so no complaints.

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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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Wheel travel means everything when it comes to true handling. The Sprints compromise wheel travel for looks. Put a Max with Sprints on any sort of surface that has small bumps vs a Max with H&Rs/Eibachs and the Max with the H&R/Eibach will outhandle the Sprints. There's a reason quality companies like Eibach/H&R design the springs to the ride heights they do.

I've had Suspension Techniques, Intrax, and now H&Rs. There's no comparison to how much better the H&Rs are. Here's my 5 speed on H&Rs:



Looks lowered to me.



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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Had my Sprints over 10k miles, no problems.

Love the ride height, even if handling is comprimsed some, can't stand the 4x4 look.

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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
Wheel travel means everything when it comes to true handling. The Sprints compromise wheel travel for looks. Put a Max with Sprints on any sort of surface that has small bumps vs a Max with H&Rs/Eibachs and the Max with the H&R/Eibach will outhandle the Sprints. There's a reason quality companies like Eibach/H&R design the springs to the ride heights they do.


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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by MaximaRider
i've had my sprint/agx combo for a little over 15k miles, no problems here, my only complaint is like Nick said in the winter it gets hard and bumpy but its worth it to me for the stance.
JIC's are the ultimate goal :-)


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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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ive had my Sprint/AGX on now for about 3months and i love them. I had the old-school setup of H&R/Tokico blues for well over 3years and i must say at first they rode great but after all the harsh roads out here in NY the suspenion folded on me and left me no choice but to swap everything out.

my reccomendations:

1) if your goin more twords a "dropped max" then id definitly go with Sprints and AGX's. The ride quality in all honesty is about the same compared to my old H&R/Tokico setup. I just hated not having that lowered look and was willing to sacrafice ride quality just a lil to get that more agressive stance.

2) if your more into the comfort factor and can deal with people asking you if your lowered or not then go with H&R/AGX.

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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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I fail to see how sprints are 'slammed' though. Isn't the slammed look ususally created by coilovers? How are the sprint springs performance less than other springs, such as H&R? Just curious, as I will be looking to purchase a set of springs soon.
Sprints drop the car more than H&R's when compared. When I dropped my car recently, I was very uneasy as to how it was going to ride because I usually car my family around in it. With H&R's, I can go over small imperfections in the road without cringing. Sprints do give that much travel to ride comfortably.
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Originally posted by ny96max
ive had my Sprint/AGX on now for about 3months and i love them. I had the old-school setup of H&R/Tokico blues for well over 3years and i must say at first they rode great but after all the harsh roads out here in NY the suspenion folded on me and left me no choice but to swap everything out.

The reason the H&Rs rode like crap is because the standard Toks can handle the higher rate springs. The fact that the ride got progressively worse tells me the shocks wore out. Blown shocks will absolutely kill the ride quality. High quality adjustable struts are the only way to go with any sort of lowering springs. I'd recommend Tok Illumnia or Koni's. Nothing else.


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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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The reason the H&Rs rode like crap is because the standard Toks can handle the higher rate springs. The fact that the ride got progressively worse tells me the shocks wore out. Blown shocks will absolutely kill the ride quality. High quality adjustable struts are the only way to go with any sort of lowering springs. I'd recommend Tok Illumnia or Koni's. Nothing else.


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Why not AGX?
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
Had Sprints for about 10k.

Lost 2 axles due to bad Seattle Roads + Sprint combination, and while at first the ride was fine, 6 months later it was horrible. Everytime I hit the smallest bump it made my teeth rattle.

Switched to B&G's. The sag in the rear pretty bad, but I know that's because I have a stereo in my trunk and a big toolbox....so no complaints.

IanS
Did you have to replace your shocks too, or did your springs alone go bad? I am wondering if these springs go bad only after being driven on very harsh grounds for a certain amount of time (I realise all springs will do this, but it seems as if sprints are doing this in a shorter span).
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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I havehad sprints for 40k miles now and no problems what so ever! Drop/Ride everything is perfect :-D
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Originally posted by Dave B
Wheel travel means everything when it comes to true handling. The Sprints compromise wheel travel for looks. Put a Max with Sprints on any sort of surface that has small bumps vs a Max with H&Rs/Eibachs and the Max with the H&R/Eibach will outhandle the Sprints. There's a reason quality companies like Eibach/H&R design the springs to the ride heights they do.

I've had Suspension Techniques, Intrax, and now H&Rs. There's no comparison to how much better the H&Rs are. Here's my 5 speed on H&Rs:



Looks lowered to me.



Dave
Point taken on the suspension travel. How about in terms of stiffness, would you say that the more accepted names (H&R & Eibach), are more stiff as well, making it harder to bottom out?

If motivational mounts were cheaper and available for all corners, this would help solve the sprint's problem...or maybe not?

Now lets say, one lives in a land with primarily smooth roads. Is it safe to say that the sprints will outhandle the H&R and Eibach setup?

Your car does look lowered, but the stillen front lip does help too .
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Originally posted by kingrukus


Point taken on the suspension travel. How about in terms of stiffness, would you say that the more accepted names (H&R & Eibach), are more stiff as well, making it harder to bottom out? If motivational mounts were cheaper and available for all corners, this would help solve the sprint's problem...or maybe not?
H&R's aren't too stiff like some of the other brands. Motivational mounts will give you extra travel in the rear.
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