HKS or Earth ground wires?
10-30-2003, 06:51 PM
#1
HKS or Earth ground wires?
I was wondering if anyone has tried these? They are a series of ground wires running from the battery to various places in the engine bay and on the motor itself. It is supposed to reduce surges, help smooth out hesitation and Idle, and help throttle response and performance.
I know of 1 .org member(maximamojo) using them and a couple of infinity g35 guys, but I was wanting a little more info
I know of 1 .org member(maximamojo) using them and a couple of infinity g35 guys, but I was wanting a little more info
10-31-2003, 07:12 AM
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There was a group deal for the Hyperground last year. There is currently a group deal for the HKS. Alot of people also use home made ones.
Originally Posted by CullenJ76
wonder why hardly anyone uses them here on the org?
10-31-2003, 12:18 PM
#10
Originally Posted by Vigo327
a 14 dollar amp wiring kit has all you need, lol.
10-31-2003, 02:02 PM
#11
Originally Posted by CullenJ76
That is what I would use if i decided to do this mod. I was wanting some info on peoples personal experiences with them. The price is not an issue. I've got extra scrap 2 and 4 guage wiring laying around. Thanks
I got a bunch of xtra wire laying around too. I would def. be willin to try it out but first I'd like to know what exactly you get outta doin this
10-31-2003, 11:37 PM
#12
the decreased electrical resistance, in culmination, creates a more efficient "flow" all around. this frees up the engine about 2hp, being that it works just a bit less to overcome it's own electrical environment.
you can say "well, 2hp is crap, who gives a sh*it." and that is all fine and dandy.
for me, with the VG, it makes a very noticeable gain, particularly in the mid-rpms --the place where most mods rob power from. so it gives some of it back. it does matter. my car has more pomp and circumstance. i can feel it. and the idle is smooth --a revelation for the 3rd gen.
the trick is knowing ---where--- to beef-up the grounds: there is a method to this madness; you cannot just go grounding to anything and expect your 2hp worth.
you can say "well, 2hp is crap, who gives a sh*it." and that is all fine and dandy.
for me, with the VG, it makes a very noticeable gain, particularly in the mid-rpms --the place where most mods rob power from. so it gives some of it back. it does matter. my car has more pomp and circumstance. i can feel it. and the idle is smooth --a revelation for the 3rd gen.
the trick is knowing ---where--- to beef-up the grounds: there is a method to this madness; you cannot just go grounding to anything and expect your 2hp worth.
11-01-2003, 06:01 AM
#13
Originally Posted by bonzelite
the decreased electrical resistance, in culmination, creates a more efficient "flow" all around. this frees up the engine about 2hp, being that it works just a bit less to overcome it's own electrical environment.
you can say "well, 2hp is crap, who gives a sh*it." and that is all fine and dandy.
for me, with the VG, it makes a very noticeable gain, particularly in the mid-rpms --the place where most mods rob power from. so it gives some of it back. it does matter. my car has more pomp and circumstance. i can feel it. and the idle is smooth --a revelation for the 3rd gen.
the trick is knowing ---where--- to beef-up the grounds: there is a method to this madness; you cannot just go grounding to anything and expect your 2hp worth.
you can say "well, 2hp is crap, who gives a sh*it." and that is all fine and dandy.
for me, with the VG, it makes a very noticeable gain, particularly in the mid-rpms --the place where most mods rob power from. so it gives some of it back. it does matter. my car has more pomp and circumstance. i can feel it. and the idle is smooth --a revelation for the 3rd gen.
the trick is knowing ---where--- to beef-up the grounds: there is a method to this madness; you cannot just go grounding to anything and expect your 2hp worth.
11-01-2003, 11:22 AM
#16
get a hold of MATT93SE
on the VG only (as the VE is different and needs grounding to different places):
1. one phat red wire from the negative battery terminal to the threaded engine block grounding post. that is the reference cable.
2. from the grounding post radiates 4 more wires:
1. a fuel injector wire to a point just behind
the long flat edge of the intake. there is a
screw there with a black wire going to it.
this point is the closest to the grounding
post on the block.
2. a second fuel injector wire to the only other
screw, 7 to 10 inches to the left of the
first one.
3. a long wire to the distributor. there are 2
possible places, one easy, one accessible
only if you remove the cap assy. - beatch.
you will know it when you see it. do the easy
one. it grounds to metal all the same.
4. a fourth under the engine to alternator.
-use zip-ties to finish off the job.
-and leave all black factory ground wires intact and in-use. do not remove them.
-contact MATT93SE for a kit. it is worth it. wires are already cut, soldered, made to order. he probably has instructions, too.
1. one phat red wire from the negative battery terminal to the threaded engine block grounding post. that is the reference cable.
2. from the grounding post radiates 4 more wires:
1. a fuel injector wire to a point just behind
the long flat edge of the intake. there is a
screw there with a black wire going to it.
this point is the closest to the grounding
post on the block.
2. a second fuel injector wire to the only other
screw, 7 to 10 inches to the left of the
first one.
3. a long wire to the distributor. there are 2
possible places, one easy, one accessible
only if you remove the cap assy. - beatch.
you will know it when you see it. do the easy
one. it grounds to metal all the same.
4. a fourth under the engine to alternator.
-use zip-ties to finish off the job.
-and leave all black factory ground wires intact and in-use. do not remove them.
-contact MATT93SE for a kit. it is worth it. wires are already cut, soldered, made to order. he probably has instructions, too.
11-01-2003, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
There are more than you think...
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11-01-2003, 11:39 AM
#19
well, the hyperground wires ARE a rip-off. i don't have those. and as far as i know, that kit does not tell you where to ground jack-sh*t. they recommend that you hunt for the "best combination."
that is why i have been plugging for matt.
and if you think it isn't worth it, then maybe in the case of the VQ it isn't. on my VG, i noticed an immediate "subtle but sweet" little gain.
if anything, it may smooth out the idle for you.
that is why i have been plugging for matt.
and if you think it isn't worth it, then maybe in the case of the VQ it isn't. on my VG, i noticed an immediate "subtle but sweet" little gain.
if anything, it may smooth out the idle for you.
12-22-2003, 12:57 PM
#22
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 78
I've emailed and PM'ed Matt but haven't heard back from him and I want to try the grounding kits but the Hyper and HKS kits are too expensive and I don't know how to make my own so I found another grounding kit by Arospeed. Costs about $80 shipped. Anyone have any experience w/ that one? Here is the link to their site:
http://arospeed.com/default.php?cPat...d982f4ba53db51
Hope that link works...
http://arospeed.com/default.php?cPat...d982f4ba53db51
Hope that link works...
12-22-2003, 02:44 PM
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I don't know about the other ground kits. The HKS version I got is universal. It comes with a bunch of ring terminals and this crimping tool. I was able to cut and get exact length on all the wires. I don't know if the HKS version is worth the ~$140 I spend but it's sures pretty under the hood 
12-22-2003, 03:00 PM
#24
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Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 212
Originally Posted by 1MAX2NV
There was a group deal for the Hyperground last year. There is currently a group deal for the HKS. Alot of people also use home made ones.
I couldn't seem to find the GD on the ground Kit...can someone post the link?
Thanks
OPIPE
12-24-2003, 05:18 PM
#26
I have the Hyperground wires. They made the car seem much smoother (like silk) and the throttle responce was worth the bucks i payed for them.
I didn't get the kit just 3 wires and used it to go from the stock body ground point (behind battery) to the stock engine grounding point (just follow the grounding to a ground bracket on the right side of engine) and i made one to the valve cover.
I figure about 2-5 hp and better stereo responce (less distortion under high volumes, no dimming lights, fm became clearer) and the smooooothness of the throttle, and the engine revs.
-Vadim
I didn't get the kit just 3 wires and used it to go from the stock body ground point (behind battery) to the stock engine grounding point (just follow the grounding to a ground bracket on the right side of engine) and i made one to the valve cover.
I figure about 2-5 hp and better stereo responce (less distortion under high volumes, no dimming lights, fm became clearer) and the smooooothness of the throttle, and the engine revs.
-Vadim
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