Why is My Max is faster?
11-12-2003, 10:43 AM
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Why is My Max is faster?
Why is it that my 95 Se maxima (auto) faster than my other maxima's
(96 and 99)both auto too? They all have the same mods. My brother who works for Nissan said its probley a prototype.
When they go head to head its dead even till my car shifts to 3rd.
Does anyone have a clue why? I really think is a early production maybe those sent to magazine companys's. Please repley cause im confused
(96 and 99)both auto too? They all have the same mods. My brother who works for Nissan said its probley a prototype.
When they go head to head its dead even till my car shifts to 3rd.
Does anyone have a clue why? I really think is a early production maybe those sent to magazine companys's. Please repley cause im confused
11-12-2003, 10:53 AM
#4
Different models, mileage, emissions differences...all play a role. Or perhaps you just proved the theory that 95's have a slightly more aggressive cam profile...now dont shoot the messanger..thats just what I saw someone say in another thread about the cams. But no two cars will be the same as far as speed. Do all the drivers weigh the same ?? etc..To many variables but I highly doubt youve got anything to graet over any other 95 auto. 
Th 95-96 you have a sig picture of did you put the se-l badge on there?If not perhaps your problem is you have a 95 sel lol.
Th 95-96 you have a sig picture of did you put the se-l badge on there?If not perhaps your problem is you have a 95 sel lol.
11-12-2003, 10:53 AM
#5
Same mods? Including wheels and other audio/neon kits?
Weight would have some variance. Why not get them all dyno'd for a true sign?
It's also known that there are 'factory freak' cars...it is next to impossible to make every single production car the exact same hp/tq as all the others. I have a factory freak as well...
Weight would have some variance. Why not get them all dyno'd for a true sign?
It's also known that there are 'factory freak' cars...it is next to impossible to make every single production car the exact same hp/tq as all the others. I have a factory freak as well...
11-12-2003, 12:10 PM
#10
I thought 15.6 for an auto was about standard..specially for a gxe auto. 
Originally Posted by deezo
I don't think my car is a freak but it runs like a bat out of hell. I ran 15.62 stock and could have run 15.5 if had had time to get more runs in.
11-12-2003, 12:26 PM
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i think that i have a freak as well... because with a busted knock sensor i was able to pull off a15.5 at the track... i think that once i get that fixed i would beable to get like maybe a 15.4 or so... and all my car has is an intake.
11-12-2003, 12:54 PM
#14
Originally Posted by infinitiblast
I thought 15.6 for an auto was about standard..specially for a gxe auto.
My car was able to do 15.62 with the weight of my heavy ****(245 pounds).
11-12-2003, 04:50 PM
#18
3rd gear is deff bralic on 95 auto's. When i step on the gas and it shifts into third, my head gets pinned almost as if im takin off from a dead stop, and all i have is the OEM replacement K&N filter. ROCK ON 95'S!!!
11-12-2003, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay_pee99
95 are 200 pounds lighter that a 97+. I have a 97 auto an ran 15.48 with just intake and rtcat about a year ago
11-12-2003, 06:33 PM
#20
well check this, i got my resonator taken out, and i can actually feel a little extra power, more than i ever felt with my exhaust and air intake.... so look under the car in the middle, is there a big hotdog shaped thing, if no, you dont have a resonator
11-12-2003, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ivelweyz
Try 9lbs. Only difference is different re-inforcements behind the bumper for better safety. The bumpers are the only physical damage from the outside and they probably lose a few lbs to the 95-96 max. The reinforcements behind the bumpers are sturdier and there is probably more styrofoam but that's it...
Yeah i was about to say that. I hate it when people completely overexaggerate the weight differences like that. The ONLY difference as ivelweyz states was reinforcements. I believe they changed the aluminum reinforcements to steel...
95s are generally considered to be a tick faster because of less restrictions while 99s are considered to be the a tick slower because their ECU is more like a 2K complete with a different wire harness...
Eric
11-12-2003, 06:56 PM
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I am now dumber after reading this thread.
Nissan doesn't make "factory freaks" and dynos support this. Nissan's tolerances are just too close. This isn't a GM car from the 70s. This is a late model car with precision engineering. Good drivers, good tracks, and good conditions are what make these cars faster than others. It's not the car.
OBD-II doesn't suck out anymore power than OBD-II. The 95s are dynoing the same kinds of numbers as the later years and the quickest NA 4th gens are spread out among the years.
Weight differences between the years 95-99, models (GLE, SE, GXE), and tranny is at most a whopping 65lbs.
Dave
Nissan doesn't make "factory freaks" and dynos support this. Nissan's tolerances are just too close. This isn't a GM car from the 70s. This is a late model car with precision engineering. Good drivers, good tracks, and good conditions are what make these cars faster than others. It's not the car.
OBD-II doesn't suck out anymore power than OBD-II. The 95s are dynoing the same kinds of numbers as the later years and the quickest NA 4th gens are spread out among the years.
Weight differences between the years 95-99, models (GLE, SE, GXE), and tranny is at most a whopping 65lbs.
Dave
11-13-2003, 12:01 AM
#23
Originally Posted by infinitiblast
Or perhaps you just proved the theory that 95's have a slightly more aggressive cam profile.
Th 95-96 you have a sig picture of did you put the se-l badge on there?If not perhaps your problem is you have a 95 sel lol.
Th 95-96 you have a sig picture of did you put the se-l badge on there?If not perhaps your problem is you have a 95 sel lol.
I thought only the 99-2k1 had the agresive cams, u sure?
11-13-2003, 01:42 AM
#24
i dont think the 95's have ANY advantage over any other year.
as you all know, the fastest stock 4th gen in the 1/4 mile has been a 97
with just an intake...my 99 hit a 95mph trap
i'd like to see one of these amazingly fast 95 do that lol
and to the people saying their 3rd gear is so powerful and puts your head back into your seat, 3rd gear is a major weak point on auto's...by far your worst gear since its so long.
auto's can somewhat keep up with 5spd's until the shift into third...then they fall back a few car lengths
as you all know, the fastest stock 4th gen in the 1/4 mile has been a 97
with just an intake...my 99 hit a 95mph trap
i'd like to see one of these amazingly fast 95 do that lol
and to the people saying their 3rd gear is so powerful and puts your head back into your seat, 3rd gear is a major weak point on auto's...by far your worst gear since its so long.
auto's can somewhat keep up with 5spd's until the shift into third...then they fall back a few car lengths
11-13-2003, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dev
i dont think the 95's have ANY advantage over any other year.
as you all know, the fastest stock 4th gen in the 1/4 mile has been a 97
with just an intake...my 99 hit a 95mph trap
i'd like to see one of these amazingly fast 95 do that lol
and to the people saying their 3rd gear is so powerful and puts your head back into your seat, 3rd gear is a major weak point on auto's...by far your worst gear since its so long.
auto's can somewhat keep up with 5spd's until the shift into third...then they fall back a few car lengths
as you all know, the fastest stock 4th gen in the 1/4 mile has been a 97
with just an intake...my 99 hit a 95mph trap
i'd like to see one of these amazingly fast 95 do that lol
and to the people saying their 3rd gear is so powerful and puts your head back into your seat, 3rd gear is a major weak point on auto's...by far your worst gear since its so long.
auto's can somewhat keep up with 5spd's until the shift into third...then they fall back a few car lengths
Dave
11-13-2003, 10:06 AM
#26
Originally Posted by Dave B
I am now dumber after reading this thread.
OBD-II doesn't suck out anymore power than OBD-II.
Dave
OBD-II doesn't suck out anymore power than OBD-II.
Dave
11-13-2003, 10:09 AM
#27
Originally Posted by Dev
i dont think the 95's have ANY advantage over any other year.
as you all know, the fastest stock 4th gen in the 1/4 mile has been a 97
with just an intake...my 99 hit a 95mph trap
i'd like to see one of these amazingly fast 95 do that lol
and to the people saying their 3rd gear is so powerful and puts your head back into your seat, 3rd gear is a major weak point on auto's...by far your worst gear since its so long.
auto's can somewhat keep up with 5spd's until the shift into third...then they fall back a few car lengths
as you all know, the fastest stock 4th gen in the 1/4 mile has been a 97
with just an intake...my 99 hit a 95mph trap
i'd like to see one of these amazingly fast 95 do that lol
and to the people saying their 3rd gear is so powerful and puts your head back into your seat, 3rd gear is a major weak point on auto's...by far your worst gear since its so long.
auto's can somewhat keep up with 5spd's until the shift into third...then they fall back a few car lengths
11-13-2003, 11:26 AM
#28
Originally Posted by infinitiblast
Do all the drivers weigh the same ??
11-13-2003, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by deezo
Did you mean to say, "OBD-II doesn't suck out anymore power than OBD-I" ?
The 95s were already certified as OBD-II cars even though they are ODB-I (confusing I know). The 96+s have some extra vacuum line and EGR stuff on top of the intake manifold, but that's where the differences stop. At WOT, all vacuum-related emissions systems turn off because there is no vacuum when the throttle is fully depressed. The only emissions system still running at WOT are the cats. Even the O2 sensors shut off above 3500rpms. OBD-II is just an updated on-board dianogistic system with a standard style plug and pin setup that is used across most cars sold in the US after 1995. I believe the main goal was to make the ECU/drivetrain easier to trouble-shoot and fix when emissions related problems appeared. It's a not a performance hampering design. It is definately harder to crack the codes and reprogram ECUs though.
Dave
15 sec 1/4... so fast..... 
11-13-2003, 01:48 PM
#34
Originally Posted by LastBoyScout
i keep waiting for people to say that there 95 is bigger than everyone else's.
the 95's do rock, even if my 5sp will kick your automagic tragicmission's butt.
the 95's do rock, even if my 5sp will kick your automagic tragicmission's butt.
11-13-2003, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ivelweyz
Maybe it's all the rice gear you hooked the car up with. APC, WTF? Maybe they both have something messed up cause there is now way you can beat them with the heavy *** rims you got on, hideous...
You've really got to calm that attitude. There are talks/requests about banning you.
Dave
11-14-2003, 05:52 AM
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I think all my maxima's weight the same. I want to get it dyno'd but I dont know where i can get them done. Anyone know anywhere in south florida?
And ivelweyz please don't call me rice. I hate rice, the neons are white and look really clean and is used for show. And those rims are light weight racing rims. And I plan on getting a better exhaust when I get the money up.
And ivelweyz please don't call me rice. I hate rice, the neons are white and look really clean and is used for show. And those rims are light weight racing rims. And I plan on getting a better exhaust when I get the money up.
11-14-2003, 06:26 AM
#38
Well, since the 95s weigh 200lbs less, have more agressive cams, and virtually no emissions controls...no wonder it's faster 
3rd gear in the auto SUCKS! 2nd gear is the sweet spot for me. I always try to get people to run from about 50mph. I can usually get enough of a jump that they dont catch all the way back up when I fall in the hole at 3rd/80mph...
3rd gear in the auto SUCKS! 2nd gear is the sweet spot for me. I always try to get people to run from about 50mph. I can usually get enough of a jump that they dont catch all the way back up when I fall in the hole at 3rd/80mph...
95 Rules!!
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