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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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6spd stick swap ?

I know this has been done. Anyone have a write up or can share the pros/cons of this. Thanks
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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pros- none really since the only person that has done this dislikes it. Not worth it really. Also the throttle is drive by wire I believe so that's also a hurdle.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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i heard somethign about the gearing being much different and not working well with the 3.0 L engine.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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the rev drop while shifting is better, but the install (and transmission itself) is expensive. You get another gear yes, but the 3 liter engine doesnt take advantage of it very well. The ratio of the 6th gear is so tall, the car could be traveling at 180 miles per hour if you were to red line it in...but you would never get there. You might get some better gas mileage and a little better acceleration...but IMO its not worth it, at all

and manualmax, if you're gonna respond, atleast say something kind of relative to the subject
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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I believe this would be advantagous if the 3.0L motor is Turbo'd or Supercharged... It would be ideal to use the increase power up top for running 10+ psi of boost...


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the rev drop while shifting is better, but the install (and transmission itself) is expensive. You get another gear yes, but the 3 liter engine doesnt take advantage of it very well. The ratio of the 6th gear is so tall, the car could be traveling at 180 miles per hour if you were to red line it in...but you would never get there. You might get some better gas mileage and a little better acceleration...but IMO its not worth it, at all

and manualmax, if you're gonna respond, atleast say something kind of relative to the subject
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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So its not worth switching from my auto(right now) to a stick (later in the future?) Should I just get a VBmod and a ecupgrade, with crap loads of bolts ons?
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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no, swap to a 5spd. thats the transmission that came with the 4th gen(95-99). youll get better performance for the price. the 6spd transmission came with 2k2-2k3 maximas(3.5L engines)
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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5 speed is nice, but from one auto guy to another, it depends what you are looking for. VB mod greatly helps your shifting if you keep an auto, and its a very nice thing to get. I personally like performance yes, but dont want a full time manual. weigh the pros and cons, an auto with a valve body can shift damn fast
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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true, esp with the second generation VB emergine.

but clutching is just too fun
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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ya i hear its not worth it, if you do switch to a 5spd then use the 95-99 and if you want a good one then try to find one with VLSD.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Big D
pros- none really since the only person that has done this dislikes it.

Not true....

you shouldn't post if you don't know what you are talking about.


the person who did this to his car is very happy with it, since he is running boost. he enjoys the short 1st gear, and the tall other gears. maybe he will make ANOTHER post about how he DOES like it... this question pops up too much...


i don't mean to be a *****, but i upsets me when people talk about stuff they do not know for a fact about.


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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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6 speed is pointless. Shorter gears without the power to back it up. If you were turbo'd or SC'd, it would be a different story.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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shorter gears, but more of them...that does give better acceleration, and a better RPM drop for shifts. Use your brain
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SXN
shorter gears, but more of them...that does give better acceleration, and a better RPM drop for shifts. Use your brain
I heard somewhere that the 3.5 Altima is faster than the 3.5 Maxima because of less shifts...
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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it depends on how you use the power you have. Whats faster, a 1 speed transmiission or a 6? You need to split up the power into different ratios, the more ratios you have, the closer you can make them. Also, the altima is lighter, and there are many other things to take into consideration there...
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Blkmax95c
Not true....

you shouldn't post if you don't know what you are talking about.


the person who did this to his car is very happy with it, since he is running boost. he enjoys the short 1st gear, and the tall other gears. maybe he will make ANOTHER post about how he DOES like it... this question pops up too much...


i don't mean to be a *****, but i upsets me when people talk about stuff they do not know for a fact about.


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Yeah it makes me mad too when they have no clue either. I wrote what HE SAID days after the swap. Go get mad at someone else, or work on your wiring. I'm not here to argue.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Also, the altima is lighter, and there are many other things to take into consideration there...
The Altima definately LOOKS alot lighter,
in reality it isn't anything really that significant.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Too many gears won't necesarry help your acceleration. Especailly on the turbo cars, you want longer gears after first. For example some DSM guys switch to race 4speed tranny.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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I dont know why peopel keep bashing anyone that wants to do a 6spd swap. I think it would be worth it, and might do it next summer.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Too many gears won't necesarry help your acceleration. Especailly on the turbo cars, you want longer gears after first. For example some DSM guys switch to race 4speed tranny.
the guy asking isnt a turbo...mentioned no plans of a turbo
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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yeah I guess 6 speed tranny would be nice, but all that work.... I don't know if it's worth it
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Originally Posted by SXN
the guy asking isnt a turbo...mentioned no plans of a turbo
You're the one that said it would give you better acceleration.
Look, you don't have a 5-speed Maxima and you don't have a 6-speed Maxima either, right? Maybe you should stop acting like a know-it-all all the damn time. I am not making a personal attack. I've seen your posts in other threads before, and it seems like you know alot of cool stuff but just not everything my friend.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Jeff@maximum tuning has a 6 speed in his car...at least that's what his cardomain page says...
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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You're the one that said it would give you better acceleration.
Look, you don't have a 5-speed Maxima and you don't have a 6-speed Maxima either, right? Maybe you should stop acting like a know-it-all all the damn time. I am not making a personal attack. I've seen your posts in other threads before, and it seems like you know alot of cool stuff but just not everything my friend.
it would give you better acceleration, its the distribution of power. i dont need to own a stick to A. know how one works B. know how to drive one. Im sorry that im right here, and that bugs you so much. That sounds quite a bit like a personal attack keep it to transmissions, or PM me
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Yeah it makes me mad too when they have no clue either. I wrote what HE SAID days after the swap. Go get mad at someone else, or work on your wiring. I'm not here to argue.

Ok "Big D" what ever you say sir. first off, do not go attack me on my wiring... it has NOTHING to do about this thread. Second off, my wiring job is perfect, but the wire is too big... maybe you shouldn't open your mouth unless you know what you are talking about... AGAIN. If you were not here to argue, then you would not have brought up my wiring.

Now... you "wrote" what he said days after the swap? No comment on that one...

But if you truly knew what you were talking about, then you would know that he is indeed happy with the swap, for he made a post not even a week ago about this very subject. Do not make me find the thread and shove it in your face... I really do not have the time to deal with people like you. Now let’s end this because I dislike whoring up people threads. If you want to speak with me further, then PM me.


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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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seriously big D, barely been here a couple days, and already causing too much
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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And now for the rest of you guys... I am in agreement with SXN. Our car can handle the swap of the tranny, and probably would increase acceleration. just think about it for a while... if you have a shorter gears, the engine will not have to work as hard to push through the gear... then your engine will just glide through each gear with out much wasted time waiting for the engine. (Much like 1st gear)

Now what is better? Going through 1st gear effortlessly, or sitting and waiting for the rpm's to get high enough to be in the engine's "power band" this is not rocket science... or IS it?

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Jeff (Maximus75) will tell you he is happy with his swap. Do not try to tell anyone otherwise, because YOU ARE NOT him and have not ridden in a 6spd 4th gen (except for those priveledged few who have ridden in his car). Some people talk like they know everything, when they know nothing. Blkmax95c I advise you not waste you time here arguing, it's best to let some people learn the way.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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yea, agreeing with me is always useless anyway...
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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seriously big D, barely been here a couple days, and already causing too much
You should be the last one here to bring that up.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vyrus
Jeff (Maximus75) will tell you he is happy with his swap. Do not try to tell anyone otherwise, because YOU ARE NOT him and have not ridden in a 6spd 4th gen (except for those priveledged few who have ridden in his car). Some people talk like they know everything, when they know nothing. Blkmax95c I advise you not waste you time here arguing, it's best to let some people learn the way.
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All I said is that he wasn't happy with it at first. Was I wrong? No.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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You should be the last one here to bring that up.
you were the one who said the skyline came in RWD. learn your place or someone will show you
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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you really want to get OWNED don't you. Please go do a search on skyline GTS and run with your tail between your legs.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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like i already said, g35, not skyline. Big D is my buddies nick name, and you just make me sick. You dont deserve to be called that.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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g35 isn't a SKYLINE and I'm talking about that not the g35. Someone else besides me must know about RWD skylines.
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i see it like this. More gears = more room for error. Its already hard enough trying to drive stick perfectly. With more maneuvering and trying to get the shifts out right you can be caught seeing the driver fender of the other car in front of you. I heard there was a big comparision between like a subaru and something else and a car was faster because of less gears to fool with. 6 speed seems to only benefit for better gas mileage. I dont see how more gears can make a car faster if it has same power. Auto's arent slower than sticks cause of less gears but cause of initial response so how can 6 speed benefit over a 5 speed in speed?
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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g35 isn't a SKYLINE and I'm talking about that not the g35. Someone else besides me must know about RWD skylines.
dude who cares about the single turbo rb26det or rb25det. get over it
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
i see it like this. More gears = more room for error. Its already hard enough trying to drive stick perfectly. With more maneuvering and trying to get the shifts out right you can be caught seeing the driver fender of the other car in front of you. I heard there was a big comparision between like a subaru and something else and a car was faster because of less gears to fool with. 6 speed seems to only benefit for better gas mileage. I dont see how more gears can make a car faster if it has same power. Auto's arent slower than sticks cause of less gears but cause of initial response so how can 6 speed benefit over a 5 speed in speed?
depends on your ability to shift. autos are slower because of the more drag placed upon the engine by the torque converter, etc. That why an auto with a VB can shift really fast but...not have the same grunt as a 5 speed. Yes the ratios are important.
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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dude who cares about the single turbo rb26det or rb25det. get over it
I stopped but you seem to have to get the last word, even if you just got ownEd. No wonder people hate your guts so much here. Reading some past posts and you just seem to go on even though you know absolutely nothing.



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