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Old Mar 6, 2001 | 10:27 PM
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Ok, I have the corners running full-time 21 watts, aftermarket sidemarkers, and my front blinkers running full-time 5 watts with dual-filament bulbs (5/21 watts). Let me also say that my bumper lights alternate when the park lights are on. I have all manufacturer suggested fuses in the fuse box. Just last night, I rewired my front blinkers to dual-filament bulbs and my park lights went out because of a blown "tail" fuse (7.5). What fuse should I replace it ("tail" 7.5) with, now that I have more lights running when the park lights are on? 10A? 15A? maybe even 20A? Should I change the "tail" fuse in the fuse box under the hood? Should I also change the the fuses for the "turn" and "hazard"? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah, I searched already so don't try to polish your posting status with that "try the search" sh*t. Thanks in advance...

[Edited by BenBlanco218 on 03-07-2001 at 02:06 AM]
Old Mar 6, 2001 | 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by BenBlanco218
Ok, I have the corners running full-time 21 watts, aftermarket sidemarkers, and my front blinkers running full-time 5 watts with dual-filament bulbs (5/21 watts). Let me also say that my bumper lights alternate when the park lights are on. I have all manufacturer suggested fuses in the fuse box. Just last night, I rewired my front blinkers to dual-filament bulbs and my park lights went out because of a blown "tail" fuse (7.5). What fuse should I replace it ("tail" 7.5) with, now that I have more lights running when the park lights are on? 10A? 15A? maybe even 20A? Should I change the "tail" fuse in the fuse box under the hood? Should I also change the the fuses for the "turn" and "hazard"? Any input will be greatly appreciated? Oh yeah, I searched already so don't try to polish your posting status with that "try the search" sh*t. Thanks in advance...
you've got to have a wire that's shorting out somewhere, cuz i have the same setup and my fuses never go out. check your connections again.
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by BenBlanco218
Ok, I have the corners running full-time 21 watts, aftermarket sidemarkers, and my front blinkers running full-time 5 watts with dual-filament bulbs (5/21 watts). Let me also say that my bumper lights alternate when the park lights are on. I have all manufacturer suggested fuses in the fuse box. Just last night, I rewired my front blinkers to dual-filament bulbs and my park lights went out because of a blown "tail" fuse (7.5). What fuse should I replace it ("tail" 7.5) with, now that I have more lights running when the park lights are on? 10A? 15A? maybe even 20A? Should I change the "tail" fuse in the fuse box under the hood? Should I also change the the fuses for the "turn" and "hazard"? Any input will be greatly appreciated? Oh yeah, I searched already so don't try to polish your posting status with that "try the search" sh*t. Thanks in advance...
you've got to have a wire that's shorting out somewhere, cuz i have the same setup and my fuses never go out. check your connections again.
Your setup, is a little bit different. You have the same setup, but I have clear square sidemarkers in the fender that are connected to the side bumper lights which I think added to the wattage from the dual-wattage blinkers is what blew my fuse last night. A few minutes ago, I checked my connections and they all seem to be perfect, I just think the factory fuse couldn't handle the sidemarkers and the full-time blinkers. What do you think? No?
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 02:05 AM
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Care to share how you rewired yoru blinkers to stay on full time?? And did you fix the problem with the fuse?? I say plug in a fuse double of the 7.5 like a 15 or if try a 20 and see if it blows or not.

Originally posted by BenBlanco218
Ok, I have the corners running full-time 21 watts, aftermarket sidemarkers, and my front blinkers running full-time 5 watts with dual-filament bulbs (5/21 watts). Let me also say that my bumper lights alternate when the park lights are on. I have all manufacturer suggested fuses in the fuse box. Just last night, I rewired my front blinkers to dual-filament bulbs and my park lights went out because of a blown "tail" fuse (7.5). What fuse should I replace it ("tail" 7.5) with, now that I have more lights running when the park lights are on? 10A? 15A? maybe even 20A? Should I change the "tail" fuse in the fuse box under the hood? Should I also change the the fuses for the "turn" and "hazard"? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah, I searched already so don't try to polish your posting status with that "try the search" sh*t. Thanks in advance...

[Edited by BenBlanco218 on 03-07-2001 at 02:06 AM]
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 05:10 AM
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Technically, you should never put a bigger fuse in. Since you are adding more amps, step up the fuses. You might spend a little more but it will pay off in the end. If you put a fuse in that allows too much current, you could ZAP all your lights...
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 05:12 AM
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then i guess it wouldn't hurt to try a different fuse, becuase if it's shorting out, the fuse will keep going out anyway.
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 05:12 AM
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Well, I doubled up the fuse for the "tail" to 15A and I guess it did the trick and hasn't blown. I also changed the fuses for the "turn" and the "hazard" to 10A and 15A. Now my only concern is, is this safe for all 3? Is there too much current being drawn now that there are bigger fuses? Well, I hope this is safe, as for now, I've been messing around with it for a little while now (turning on and off the park lights, signaling, leaving them on for an extended period of time) and there hasn't been any problems, yet. As for the directions on how to rewire the front blinkers, here's a link to some simple instructions:

http://maximanorth.homestead.com/fil..._mods_rwts.htm
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 05:31 AM
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Changing the fuse.....

Well, that's what I did. I only put in a fuse that I thought would fulfill the wattage from the number of bulbs that would light up when the park lights, turn, or hazards come on. I wasn't sure about just putting in any old high amp fuse so I did just step up to the next highest rating. I also calculated how many watts are being drawn from my setup (corners, tails, sidemarkers, license plates, rear corners, front blinkers, bumper sidemarkers)and how many watts would be drawn from a stock setup (without the front full-time front blinkers and sidemarkers) and it seems as if I am drawing just about double the amount of watts. So, I figure I'll replace the "tail" fuse from 7.5A to 15A. As for the "turn" and "hazard" fuses, I have my bumper sidemarkers, fender sidemarkers, and the rear corners all alternating with the front and rear blinkers when I signal with the park lights on, so I figure I'm drawing a little more wattage again but not double, so I just put in the next highest fuse which was a 10A instead of 15A. I figure, the "hazard" fuse speaks for the "turn" fuse also, more wattage but a little more than the "turn" because both side of the car light up. Like I said, I am tryin to ply it safe and not put in just any fuse, I'm thinking my caculations should play some kind of role in the choice of fuses. Thanks for everyone's input, and if there are any more answers to my questions, feel free to post.......
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 06:33 AM
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BenBlanco218:

I rewired both of my friends 97 maximas corner lenses. All you have to do is put the 1157 Hyper White bulb in backwards in the socket. That means shaving down the small nubby things on the body of the bulb itself. That way the bulb will make contact on the brighter filiment part of the bulb, hense; "rewired corner lenses". One of my boys as well has the side marker rewire as well as the corner light rewire and never blew one fuse. I hope you didnt actually cut any wires leading to the 1157 bulb in the corner lense, cause there is no need to AT ALL!

I have a 96 and installed the bulb bacwards as well and blew the "tails 7.5 amp fuse". So i changed the bulb back to normal operation and replaced the fuse with another 7.5.
Iam more concerned about doin dmage to the lense itself, cause those bulbs get extremely hot. I also have every other bulb in the car replaced with a hyper bulb from Polarg
(front corners,lisense plate,tails,dash,glove box,both domes,doors,blinkers,etc...) NO problems at all!
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 12:52 PM
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its not the "rewired corner lenses" mod.....

Originally posted by ny96maxse
BenBlanco218:

I rewired both of my friends 97 maximas corner lenses. All you have to do is put the 1157 Hyper White bulb in backwards in the socket. That means shaving down the small nubby things on the body of the bulb itself. That way the bulb will make contact on the brighter filiment part of the bulb, hense; "rewired corner lenses". One of my boys as well has the side marker rewire as well as the corner light rewire and never blew one fuse. I hope you didnt actually cut any wires leading to the 1157 bulb in the corner lense, cause there is no need to AT ALL!

I have a 96 and installed the bulb bacwards as well and blew the "tails 7.5 amp fuse". So i changed the bulb back to normal operation and replaced the fuse with another 7.5.
Iam more concerned about doin dmage to the lense itself, cause those bulbs get extremely hot. I also have every other bulb in the car replaced with a hyper bulb from Polarg
(front corners,lisense plate,tails,dash,glove box,both domes,doors,blinkers,etc...) NO problems at all!
I know you are just trying to help me, and I thank you, but I have done the "1157 bulbs in the corners" mod long ago and haven't blown a fuse because of that. I am talking about having those same 1157 bulbs in my front blinkers running full-time instead of having the usual 1156 just blink when you signal. I have the dual-wattage bulbs running at the 5 watts and signaling at the 21 watts. Back to the corner lenses, I didn't cut any wires, and I didn't even use a 1157 bulb. I filed down one of the stubs of a 1156 (single-filiment) and it works just the same. Exactly, I never blew a fuse either, until I put in the front blinker mod.
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 01:13 PM
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what socket did you use?

i wanted to change my blinker socket for the longest time. what i wanted to find out was what size socket did you use? and where did you get it from? can you also explain how did you wire it? thanx in advance
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 02:01 PM
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That blown fuse was a warning

Originally posted by BenBlanco218
... What fuse should I replace it ("tail" 7.5) with, now that I have more lights running when the park lights are on? 10A? 15A? maybe even 20A? ... ... Any input will be greatly appreciated. [/I]
Maybe you won't greatly appreciate this input.

The purpose of a fuse is to protect the electrical circuit and everything in it. That includes the wires and the bulb sockets. If you upgrade the fuse without also upgrading all of the wiring on that circuit, you are defeating the purpose of the fuse. You risk ending up with a "toasted" harness and a major repair bill.

That blown fuse was a warning. Ignore it at your peril.
Old Mar 7, 2001 | 02:04 PM
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1phatmax:

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i wanted to change my blinker socket for the longest time. what i wanted to find out was what size socket did you use? and where did you get it from? can you also explain how did you wire it? thanx in advance
1Phatmax, I just did that mod to my '96. Here's what I did:

I went to Pep Boys and got two of this socket:

Part# 84809, "Double contact Socket" for "Import" (go where all the light sockets are, then look for part # 84809, they're in order, or should be)

Only mod needed to make it work is to cut the tab on the side. See on the side of it where there's three tabs, and one goes from the base of the socket to the top? That one needs to be removed. I used a dremel tool, but a pocket knife would work. (I can send you pics of this, hard to do in words, I know...)

Look at the wires coming out: you have a red and two blacks. Look in the back of the socket, see how one black wire comes off from the side? Thats the ground. The red one is the low beam running light hot wire and the black one is the high beam blinker hot wire.

The Maxima wires were like some odd color and black at the blinker. The black is your ground. Put the ground wire from the socket to this black wire.

The hot for the blinker on the socket goes to the other non-black wire.

Now to wire the running light hot wire go over to the side marker and look at the wires that go into it. Ones black and ones non-black. Wire the non-black wire to the remaining red wire on the socket.

I can take pics and post em. Sorry I don't recall the colors of all the wires.

Jack
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can you please...

can you please post or email me the pics. thanx for all you help.
Old Mar 8, 2001 | 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by 1Phat Max
can you please post or email me the pics. thanx for all you help.
Phatmax, here's a pic of the socket:

http://csc.smsu.edu/~jack/temp/1157-socket.jpg

I'll try to have more for you tomorrow.

The main idea of this is to identify these three:
* Ground
* Hot turn sig
* Hot running light
The socket wires are descibed above, and on the car its black for ground and non-black for hot.

The mod to the socket is simple, but really needs a pic to describe it.

Jack
Old Mar 8, 2001 | 09:06 AM
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Re: That blown fuse was a warning

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
Originally posted by BenBlanco218
... What fuse should I replace it ("tail" 7.5) with, now that I have more lights running when the park lights are on? 10A? 15A? maybe even 20A? ... ... Any input will be greatly appreciated.
Maybe you won't greatly appreciate this input.

The purpose of a fuse is to protect the electrical circuit and everything in it. That includes the wires and the bulb sockets. If you upgrade the fuse without also upgrading all of the wiring on that circuit, you are defeating the purpose of the fuse. You risk ending up with a "toasted" harness and a major repair bill.

That blown fuse was a warning. Ignore it at your peril. [/I]
Thanks for the info, I still greatly appreciate the input, its just now I'm gonna redo my whole lighting setup. Thanks.
Old Mar 8, 2001 | 12:02 PM
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Re: Re: can you please...

Phatmax, here's a pic of the socket:

http://csc.smsu.edu/~jack/temp/1157-socket.jpg

I'll try to have more for you tomorrow.

The main idea of this is to identify these three:
* Ground
* Hot turn sig
* Hot running light
The socket wires are descibed above, and on the car its black for ground and non-black for hot.

The mod to the socket is simple, but really needs a pic to describe it.

Jack
Man, I have been looking back for a past post on this. Its hard to find any real ANSWERS on it. Its mostly all Qs w/o good answers. (I find a lot of "why is this here" posts among my search. I look under "turn signals" and find a lot of junk that does not look like it should hit it. I wish the Maxima.org search was better and let me put in what to leave out and allow me to put two words in order only and not 'either one anywhere')

Try this:

https://maxima.org/forums/showthread...threadid=10134

and this:

http://maximanorth.homestead.com/fil..._mods_rwts.htm

The above link is used a lot to answer it, but theres really no good pix and no clear description of what wire goes where and no pic of the mod to the socket.

This one is quoted twice for this, but this site has NO MOD for front turn signals:

http://www.bol.ucla.edu/%7Ecchiu1/how2.html

Daniel quotes it twice. What the web site does do is call a SIDE MARKER MOD "Rewire your blinkers".

We really need to pay attention to TERMS, a side marker is not a blinker, and a corner light is neither one. Lets get one name each and use em..... *sigh*

Phatmax, this thread is named "Suggested fuse for my Hyper White setup", not what we're talking about, so look for a new post from me (I'll tell ya in private email too) on modding your front turn signals. (I plan to refer to this every time someone else asks about it)

Jack
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