very very very upset story
#1
very very very upset story
I am an idiot, knows nothing about cars. This story happened in Ontario, Canada.
I got my 95 maxima today, paid CDN$5700 for it. When driving it home find it's very bumpy. Took it to a mechanic check, find out that all the rear suspension springs (not sure about the terms. the thing between tire and body) are broken and the two front suspension shocks( the tube in the spring) are not working or something. My mechanic told me that a car like that can't pass the safety test to get a certification, and I was cheated by the seller.
I then went back to the seller, and he and his wife told me that they knew this thing and it is not a problem. They said that it was like that when then bought it one year ago! And they told me that some people intentionally CUT the spring to lower the body and make it sporty!(Is that true?) And he said it's very ok to pass a safety check like that.
Then I said ok, you are good. I will contact my lawyer and check with ministry of transportation in Ontario to see what they say. Actually my lawyer already told me that I can sue the seller and the mechanic and I don't even need to pay the lawyer's fee.
Yes, I am an idiot, but I recorded my last conversation with the seller and it plays back very clear. Before I left, I let them know that there is a recorder in my pocket.
Then I headed home and now received 2 calls from this seller and one call from the safety check person. They offer me to change the springs and shocks (if so called) at their cost. I agreed and said that I will bring my own mechanic with me to supervise the repair.
I am really upset about this because I trusted the seller at the very begining (he is a rich guy with a big house and two new cars) and now feel like an idiot. And my wife and I are living on my scholarship and has no any other income, and we may just spend 6 grand on a junk!
I really don't know what I should do, maybe I should accept their offer or just sue them to get my money back. really don't know. what do you think?
I got my 95 maxima today, paid CDN$5700 for it. When driving it home find it's very bumpy. Took it to a mechanic check, find out that all the rear suspension springs (not sure about the terms. the thing between tire and body) are broken and the two front suspension shocks( the tube in the spring) are not working or something. My mechanic told me that a car like that can't pass the safety test to get a certification, and I was cheated by the seller.
I then went back to the seller, and he and his wife told me that they knew this thing and it is not a problem. They said that it was like that when then bought it one year ago! And they told me that some people intentionally CUT the spring to lower the body and make it sporty!(Is that true?) And he said it's very ok to pass a safety check like that.
Then I said ok, you are good. I will contact my lawyer and check with ministry of transportation in Ontario to see what they say. Actually my lawyer already told me that I can sue the seller and the mechanic and I don't even need to pay the lawyer's fee.
Yes, I am an idiot, but I recorded my last conversation with the seller and it plays back very clear. Before I left, I let them know that there is a recorder in my pocket.
Then I headed home and now received 2 calls from this seller and one call from the safety check person. They offer me to change the springs and shocks (if so called) at their cost. I agreed and said that I will bring my own mechanic with me to supervise the repair.
I am really upset about this because I trusted the seller at the very begining (he is a rich guy with a big house and two new cars) and now feel like an idiot. And my wife and I are living on my scholarship and has no any other income, and we may just spend 6 grand on a junk!
I really don't know what I should do, maybe I should accept their offer or just sue them to get my money back. really don't know. what do you think?
#2
I think you are a chick with a wife
I dunno why you had to mention that...
anyways, if YOUR mechanic checks out the rest of the car (engine and sucH), just have the seller pay for new suspension (Springs and shocks all around).
![Confused](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
anyways, if YOUR mechanic checks out the rest of the car (engine and sucH), just have the seller pay for new suspension (Springs and shocks all around).
#3
Cutting springs is dangerous. That's why they have aftermarket springs... http://maxmods.dyndns.org
I was thinking the same thing
Originally Posted by nadir_s
I think you are a chick with a wife
I dunno why you had to mention that...
![Confused](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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#7
Originally Posted by wariow
i'm assuming your name is Peter cuz of the title. I say just get the thing fixed. Paying for lawyers for a law suit will not be worth it.
is it possible to return the car and get my money back?
if i report it to ministry of transportion, his mechanic may lose his license.
too mad now, can't express clearly.
#9
Originally Posted by Nismo
have the previous owner pay for new springs and shocks and have them pay for teh mechanic to install them. done deal
my concern is, if they have driven like that for a while, would it hurt the other parts badly?
#11
allignment may be way off so maybe have the tires checked out for uneven wear
Maybe you should post this in the Canadian forum to help you with the legal issues because the US may have different regulation. Ministry of transportation? never heard of that, department of transportation I heard of
Maybe you should post this in the Canadian forum to help you with the legal issues because the US may have different regulation. Ministry of transportation? never heard of that, department of transportation I heard of
#12
thank all you guys for replying..
the left side front tire is more worn than the right side counterpart
i am contacting people who understand the law here to check out what they say
basically i want either my full money back or the car being in good running condition
the left side front tire is more worn than the right side counterpart
i am contacting people who understand the law here to check out what they say
basically i want either my full money back or the car being in good running condition
#13
Why not just have the seller refund you some money to purchase a set of Eibach/H&R springs (~1.5" drop) and some good shocks? If he buys the equipment from Nissan, he'll spend way too much money. You can get a set of new H&R/Eibach springs and AGX adjustable shocks for ~$600 (US). If he buys you OEM shocks/springs you'll be looking at at least $1200 (US) and lower quanity parts. With the lowering springs and good shocks you'll get better braking, superior handling, and a drop that will not severely reduce wheeltravel. The inspector won't even know the car has been lowered since 4th gen Maximas sit so G-damn high to begin with.
Dave
Dave
#14
Originally Posted by mad_peter
my wife and I are living on my scholarship and has no any other income
#15
Originally Posted by mad_peter
I got my 95 maxima today, paid CDN$5700 for it. When driving it home find it's very bumpy. Took it to a mechanic check, find out that all the rear suspension springs (not sure about the terms. the thing between tire and body) are broken and the two front suspension shocks( the tube in the spring) are not working or something. My mechanic told me that a car like that can't pass the safety test to get a certification, and I was cheated by the seller.
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#17
im not sure.... but i dont think u can record someone without their permission... so if u told them u had a recorder in your pocket after u had the conversation with them without their permission, then u cant use that in court...
i think...
i think...
#20
Originally Posted by BLACKICE99
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT GRILL?
WEBSITE,ETC?????
![devil](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/devil.gif)
WEBSITE,ETC?????
http://www.motostorm.com
Member PHSinvent makes them
#21
thank all you guys replying...
i will try to ask either the seller or the safety certificate person to refund me some money and take the car to get a repair, apparently they are in the same boat. if that is not working, i will report it to authorities and i don't care what consequnces they are going to have but just don't want they keep cheating people, i know that by this way i am going to pay the repair by myself.
my major was not english, absolutely. chick has another means in my own language, that those people first touching some field. anyway, this is not the point to continue on.
i will try to ask either the seller or the safety certificate person to refund me some money and take the car to get a repair, apparently they are in the same boat. if that is not working, i will report it to authorities and i don't care what consequnces they are going to have but just don't want they keep cheating people, i know that by this way i am going to pay the repair by myself.
my major was not english, absolutely. chick has another means in my own language, that those people first touching some field. anyway, this is not the point to continue on.
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