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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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vq32de?

Hey, I thought I read a thread about a VQ32DE engine before and it was bs but I cant find anything by searching. Someone has an I30 and they said it has a VQ32DE and LSD with is rare. Its a 3.2 that puts out 220 hp. Im thinking this is just bs...anyone know anything about this?
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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vq32de?! what on earth? No such thing! atleast not for a maxima (VQ30 and VQ35 are the only ones) ... maybe for the new altimas?
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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I will have a vq36de soon
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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The person knows more stuff about cars than me but when I said that I have the same engine as his I30...hes told me he had a VQ32DE with 220hp. Is it possible it was shipped from somewhere or is he just confused.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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I don't, I know that there is 3.3L I30 but I think it's called a VQ33DE
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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I don't, I know that there is 3.3L I30 but I think it's called a VQ33DE
Never heard of it. I was pretty sure there were only 2.0L, 2.5L, 3.0L, and 3.5L variations of the VQ...now there's a VG33E...could that be what you're referring to?
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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I think he is confused.
Infiniti uses the name of the car with the displacement combination.
I30 3.0
I35 3.5
G20 2.0
G35 3.5
FX45 4.5
etc........
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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He is lying.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 01:28 AM
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There is a VG33, no VQ33 to my knowledge. If you were to swap VQ35 rods and crank into a VQ30 it would make a 3.3L displacement if I recall.

Perhaps you are thinking though of the VQ30DD? The direct injection VQ30 available in japan or somewheres like that, which did indeed make 220hp if I recall.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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I think the DD made 240 HP. You can make a VQ32/33DE though. There was a long thread in which Daniel B. Martin explained all the configurations and stuff a long time ago.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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The guy just probably bored out the engine to 3.2L making it a vq32de.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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man, somone just put a q45 engine in a maxima and we'll all be happy!
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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yeah, rear wheel drive 8 cylinder q45 engine in a front wheel drive car designed for a 3-3.5 liter v6.

let me know when you have the money to undertake that project, and with the cost and labor time involved, I'll have something a lot nicer built for you...

...and it won't be a maxima.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Making a maxima RWD is not that hard, if you know how to weld. The hardest part would be the rear link suspension. That sucks. If it was rear independant it would be a little bit easier. Probally do it for 5-6 k including solid rear end.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Making a maxima RWD is not that hard, if you know how to weld. The hardest part would be the rear link suspension. That sucks. If it was rear independant it would be a little bit easier. Probally do it for 5-6 k including solid rear end.
You're forgetting about making a driveshaft tunnel and dealing with the gas tank.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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Driveshaft tunnel won't be too hard, you can use most of the exhuast tunnel, you will need to re weld a bigger tunel down there and get new carpet, hopefulyl the armrest and dash fit. you can put the gas tank in the trunk or if you can find space somewhere else.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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It's a lot harder then I think you realize... have you ever done this type of work or even know what it takes to get done? It's a LOT more involved then just "welding a bigger tunnel down there." You have to completely redesign the floor pan.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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You could round a semi circle piece of mild steel that is taller than the one there and fit the driveshaft.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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... or just drive backwards... ???
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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... or just drive backwards... ???
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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... or just drive backwards... ???
whaaa?
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kevlo911
I think the DD made 240 HP. You can make a VQ32/33DE though. There was a long thread in which Daniel B. Martin explained all the configurations and stuff a long time ago.
can someone with search capability find this thread please?
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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You could round a semi circle piece of mild steel that is taller than the one there and fit the driveshaft.
Ok I'm ending this conversation here because you obviously don't know the work even that "small" step involves.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mchne
yeah, rear wheel drive 8 cylinder q45 engine in a front wheel drive car designed for a 3-3.5 liter v6.

let me know when you have the money to undertake that project, and with the cost and labor time involved, I'll have something a lot nicer built for you...

...and it won't be a maxima.
Hey, I was being sarcastic.. But youve got to admit, a v8 in a maxima would be the shizit!
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:38 AM
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theres no possibility of using g35 parts is there? Are these cars any similar besides the engine? (maybe the 5th gen?)

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It's a lot harder then I think you realize... have you ever done this type of work or even know what it takes to get done? It's a LOT more involved then just "welding a bigger tunnel down there." You have to completely redesign the floor pan.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by formz
Ok I'm ending this conversation here because you obviously don't know the work even that "small" step involves.
Enlighten me.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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theres no possibility of using g35 parts is there? Are these cars any similar besides the engine? (maybe the 5th gen?)
You'd have to find out a few things:

1) Will the g35 tranny bolt to the vq30de?
2) Is the driveshaft the right length?
3) Can the rear differential fit between the rear suspension?
4) Will the rear suspension fit in our maximas?
5) Is the driveshaft small enough not to warrent making an entirely new floor pan?

The entire rear suspension is 100% different going from a G35 to a 4th gen Maxima. The notion of just "welding in" a larger tunnel to accomodate a driveshaft is foolish. There are things to consider like:

1) Shifter position in terms of the tranny and driveshaft.
2) Exhaust layout.
3) Whether or not you can fit the rear seats and center console in the car with the addition of a driveshaft.
4) Where the gas tank is going to go now that the space is filled with a rear diff.


And hundreds upon hundreds of other things. This type of project is only suited for a FULLY QUALIFIED SHOP. I wouldn't even trust Stillen/Cattman/any other maxima specific vendor to even attempt this. I would only go to places that have extensive one off fabrication knowledge and have DONE this kind of work like Road Race Engineering and/or the Millin's shop. RRE has converted FWD DSMs to AWD, and Millin has done NUMEROUS things with this type of work.

Making a RWD maxima is not only foolish, it's nearly impossible. FORGET ABOUT IT.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by amr1776
can someone with search capability find this thread please?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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crap, my bad, for some odd reason, i was thinking about the 3.5 litre maxima. damn, this is too much for me to think about.. Im gonna take a break from all this.


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You'd have to find out a few things:

1) Will the g35 tranny bolt to the vq30de?
2) Is the driveshaft the right length?
3) Can the rear differential fit between the rear suspension?
4) Will the rear suspension fit in our maximas?
5) Is the driveshaft small enough not to warrent making an entirely new floor pan?

The entire rear suspension is 100% different going from a G35 to a 4th gen Maxima. The notion of just "welding in" a larger tunnel to accomodate a driveshaft is foolish. There are things to consider like:

1) Shifter position in terms of the tranny and driveshaft.
2) Exhaust layout.
3) Whether or not you can fit the rear seats and center console in the car with the addition of a driveshaft.
4) Where the gas tank is going to go now that the space is filled with a rear diff.


And hundreds upon hundreds of other things. This type of project is only suited for a FULLY QUALIFIED SHOP. I wouldn't even trust Stillen/Cattman/any other maxima specific vendor to even attempt this. I would only go to places that have extensive one off fabrication knowledge and have DONE this kind of work like Road Race Engineering and/or the Millin's shop. RRE has converted FWD DSMs to AWD, and Millin has done NUMEROUS things with this type of work.

Making a RWD maxima is not only foolish, it's nearly impossible. FORGET ABOUT IT.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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1. No the VQ30DE will not fit because it is FWD, you would need a custom transmission and it would be very expensive, probally 10-15 k. You will have to use VQ35 from 350z, any engine like a small block or I6 would be to big for the engine bay.

2. Driveshaft would be difficult because the 350z/G35 have plastic driveshafts covered in carbon fiber. I think you would have to get a custom one made I am not sure if you had to cut that how you would put it back together. Just call B and M transmissions and they can custom make you one.

3. That is what I was saying the rear suspension on our cars sucks, your making a new floor anyway, so you could tuck the rear end back there.

4. answered already

5. answered already

Second set of questions

1. Tranny will be a ***** probally have to cut some of the firewall off. That would take a long time but shifter, even if off you can adjust because you could move the engine back and forth because you have to make new motor mounts anyway.

2. Exhaust layout, that is the least of your worries. If it was me I would have the headers coming out of the hood, six seperate pipes, or you can even have the exhuast run behind the tires.

3. Center consule could be made to fit

4. Gas tank could be in the trunk.

The engine and transmission, driveshaft and rearend would be the biggest problem, everything else is little. If I had a shell of a maxima I would try something like this.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Well it's good you don't have a shell laying around because you're forgetting some huge points. Try making a tranny tunnel in a FWD car for a RWD tranny.. it's NOT happening cheap. You have to move the ENTIRE dash, and rethink the ENTIRE center console. So just saying "it can be made to fit" is ABSURD. Don't even think about it.

And just because one motor is made for a FWD car doesn't mean a RWD tranny wont bolt up to it. Chevy powerglides bolt up to 4g63's (awd/fwd 4cylinder with a rwd v8 tranny.) They just bolt up together. Again, don't even try it because you're nowhere near the intelligence or experience level to attempt such a project.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Well what RWD transmission bolts up to a VQ30? None, you could make an adapter plate maybe.

Moving entire dash? maybe center consule. The driveshaft tunnel would not be incrediably bigger than the exhuast tunnel that is already there. If they can fit a 3 inch exhuast down there with no problem, the tunnel would not need to be that much bigger.
Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by formz
You'd have to find out a few things:

1) Will the g35 tranny bolt to the vq30de?
2) Is the driveshaft the right length?
3) Can the rear differential fit between the rear suspension?
4) Will the rear suspension fit in our maximas?
5) Is the driveshaft small enough not to warrent making an entirely new floor pan?

The entire rear suspension is 100% different going from a G35 to a 4th gen Maxima. The notion of just "welding in" a larger tunnel to accomodate a driveshaft is foolish. There are things to consider like:

1) Shifter position in terms of the tranny and driveshaft.
2) Exhaust layout.
3) Whether or not you can fit the rear seats and center console in the car with the addition of a driveshaft.
4) Where the gas tank is going to go now that the space is filled with a rear diff.


And hundreds upon hundreds of other things. This type of project is only suited for a FULLY QUALIFIED SHOP. I wouldn't even trust Stillen/Cattman/any other maxima specific vendor to even attempt this. I would only go to places that have extensive one off fabrication knowledge and have DONE this kind of work like Road Race Engineering and/or the Millin's shop. RRE has converted FWD DSMs to AWD, and Millin has done NUMEROUS things with this type of work.

Making a RWD maxima is not only foolish, it's nearly impossible. FORGET ABOUT IT.

If you like G35 Go buy a G35, if you like the Maxima, drive it the way it is.. why you even want to put in the G35 tranny in maxima.......??????
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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If you like G35 Go buy a G35, if you like the Maxima, drive it the way it is.. why you even want to put in the G35 tranny in maxima.......??????
Um. that's what I've been saying for a long time.

And to the guy right about you, you're forgetting that a RWD tranny is about 3ft long and sits right about under the dash, the problem is the tranny tunnel, which is HUGE compared to the driveshaft tunnel. Have you guys never worked on a RWD car before?
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