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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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White smoke, I think?

Ok today I was leaving the video store, car wasn't exactly hot, but it was above the cold mark. Well I pulled in to traffic, it was a little tight but not bad, anyways I accelerated pretty good cause it is fun. While doing this I looked in my rearveiw and noticed a lot of white smoke.

So I get home have my friend whatch the tail pipe while I rev it. He said it was mostly clear and then at one point it baiscly just spewed smoke then it stoped and back to normal. Then I got out and watched and every once and a while I could see a little bit of white somke come out, not much at all, and the engine was reving from 1k-4.5k, smoke seemed to come out more at the higher RPMs.

So any ideas? I was think valve guides or something of that nature. Man this sucks, I just got this car and the dealer has been trying for 2 months to fix this oil leak, and in the process he has introduced a coolant leak. I did all I could before I bought this car to make sure it was good, but I fail. oh yeah the car has 127k (I am poor and I got it 5.5k, it looks nice and still drives great just these three problems that make it suck). So thanks for reading
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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oil?

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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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I believe Oil burns Blue/black. White sounds like something is overheating.
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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On my old car there was a small leak in my oil gasket( I think it was that, it had to do with my oiling driping and burning) and i had white smoke
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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How Cold was it out side?
Out side temp?
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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oil is blue/black
coolant is white

END OF STORY.
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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white is turbo baby
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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how much lbs u runin? lol
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Oil = Blue
Burnt Gas = Black
Coolant = White (due to a head gasket)

My guess is that its just condenstation from not running it all the way hot before turning your car off....look around on a cold day, everones car is "smoking" presay, but its only condensation
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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it was about 40ish outside, so not to cold. it might be coolant, the mechanic working on it is a really dumb guy so he might have messed something up, I am taking it to a different shop tomorrow see what they say. This smoke doesn't really look like condensation but there is a far amount of water coming out. If it is a head gasket how much do think it would cost to fix? thanks for the help.
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:14 AM
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As stated before, the only thing that causes white smoke aside from condensation is a faulty head gasket. The easiest way you can confirm this is by checking your coolant for oil traces and checking your oil for coolant traces. If it is the head gasket, the problem is not as severe, yet but should be addressed. A blown head gasket will overheat the engine. I'm agreeing with what has been said already- condensation. If you can, start the car (cold) in a garage. You'll note very little to no smoke. This is only if you do not have a head gasket problem. Otherwise, you'll see white smoke in any condition.
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I was talking with some people at work about this today, somebody suggested a burnt valve? Is that a possibility? If it is is that something you can do in your driveway, and could you do a head gasket in your driveway? I read the Chiltons walk through on the head gasket it is a lot of work but if I took my time maybe 4 or 5 days to fix? Thank you so much for your help!
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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Actually........white smoke is burnt oil. I had an old 88 max that was using and burning oil, because of leaky seals, and it was white.
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Actually........white smoke is burnt oil. I had an old 88 max that was using and burning oil, because of leaky seals, and it was white.
NO IT'S NOT. Oil burns BLUE. BLUUUUUUUE. Go ask your mechanic what burns white and he'll tell you WATER/COOLANT. Oil burns blue, that is a FACT. It may LOOK white in some lights, but it's NOT, it is BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE.

I can't believe people still don't know this.
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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And if you don't believe me, believe some online mechanics:

Blue smoke:
http://www.2carpros.com/topics/bluesmok.htm
Blue smoke is from oil burning.
White smoke:
http://www.2carpros.com/topics/whitesmk.htm
The white smoke is caused by coolant in the exhaust
my god...
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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white smoke is coolant.
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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f o r m z................

Why do you have to jump down everyone's throat when making a point?!!! I sucks and gets really old. I understand posting what is really going on, but it is not necessary to flame everyone all the time.......and you do it all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Plus, you are a newbie in some senses..............and always flaming!!!

I don't think I have every seen you post something that is not flaming to try to get your point across! A lot of us disagree with others, but we don't just try to tear them up, we just post facts about why we think we are right. Well, you got about half of that process right!

CHILL OUT!!!!!
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Some one is a little angry he's wrong. How was I flaming you? I didn't call you one name. Not ONE name. I'm still not going to call you a name. You're just angry you're wrong, end of story.

Remember folks, flaming = calling some one else a name on the internet. Did I call you a name? Nope! Thanks for playing.
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yo forms shut the fukc up
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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haha how intelligent.

Ofcourse, what can I expect from some one with "dont drink a drive, smoke and fly" in their signature haha.
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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in this case I agree with formz, the exhuast seems to smell a little sweet, whch would be coolant. However I don't see water in my oil, nor oil in my water. Well I am getting the stuff to work on it here in a little bit so it is time to get dirty mwuhahaha
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 96GreenMax
in this case I agree with formz, the exhuast seems to smell a little sweet, whch would be coolant. However I don't see water in my oil, nor oil in my water. Well I am getting the stuff to work on it here in a little bit so it is time to get dirty mwuhahaha

I was wondering about this...

I have a 98 with just over 50K on it and I sometimes see this white smoke comming from the exhaust. Now, I could be wrong but, if you were burning coolant wouldn't your Coolant reserve in your engine bay start to go low...? I'm not sure. I know I have a small oil leak... But, I went a head and had my wife step on the gas a few times to see what would happen. It looked like regular exhast fumes but, it did smell rich... Of course the more she pushed on the gas the thicker it got. do you know why the smell would be so rich...like gasoline? I use only 92 oct and I recently put on a CAI. any thoughts?

Thanks.

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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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Yes, you're right. If coolant were seeping past the head gasket, you would loose coolant in the reservoir. Many times, people don't see a loss of water/coolant and wonder where the water is going. A loss of coolant and no apparent leaks is a good sign that you have a head gasket issue. At 50k, I highly doubt you have any problems with the gasket though. As far as the gas smell, were you doing this with the engine cold? The engine will run rich when cold because the 02 sensors do not operate until the engine is warm. I can't think of any other reason right now why this would happen.
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Well as soon as I can fix my coolant leak or figure out where it is coming from then I will be able to tell if my coolant level goes down for no apparant reason. Right now I think the leak is coming from the gasket on the thermostat but I don't know. What about a burnt valve though? I haven't read anything about that on here, it seems like it could happen to any car, but what would have to happen for that to occur?
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 96GreenMax
Well as soon as I can fix my coolant leak or figure out where it is coming from then I will be able to tell if my coolant level goes down for no apparant reason. Right now I think the leak is coming from the gasket on the thermostat but I don't know. What about a burnt valve though? I haven't read anything about that on here, it seems like it could happen to any car, but what would have to happen for that to occur?
I don't believe there is any condition called a "burnt valve" All the valves do is isolate the cylinder from the intake and exhaust ports during the engine cycle, they are not near any coolant. If you had a broken valve your car would most likely be misfiring.
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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I don't believe there is any condition called a "burnt valve" All the valves do is isolate the cylinder from the intake and exhaust ports during the engine cycle, they are not near any coolant. If you had a broken valve your car would most likely be misfiring.
Yes you can burn a valve.
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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If there are no signs of head gasket failure, could something in the exhaust system, say, excessive carbon deposits or some kind of cat failure, cause condensation?

I was just wondering......
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