Brudaddy

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Just curious, don't the 2000 models have like 220 hp? I mean, what can we do(that the factory did) to improve our cars to that? I know the obvious(y-pipe, b-pipe. intake...etc.), but what did they do from the factory that was different? They didn't put on a y-pipe...

Any comments are welcome...

s0ber

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I _Believe_ I heard someone on here say something about different cams.... And something on the exhaust.

Jatan

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Isn't the intake manifold different too?

Kevlo911

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VI and agressive cams.

SteVTEC

- Variable Intake manifold primarily
- There's actually a little LESS intake cam.
- But there's more exhaust cam to support the better top-end flow.

Brudaddy

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kind of pricey to get ours that way, huh?
Would you see gains on top of what you see for y-pipe if you were to modify like a 2000?....SteVTEC?
Anyone?

sryth

If what you're asking is: "Does a y-pipe make a 2000 Maxima even better?" the answer is: Of course it does!

NissanSE98

so could you get stock 2000 maxima cams and put them into a 98

DAVE Sz

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Yes you can but you won't see any gains. Also a 2000 engine VQ30DE-K isn't exactly the "same" as a 95-99 vq30de.

Brudaddy

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In what ways different? I mean, are there little things we can do to our cars to make them more similar? Or is the engine difference limiting us?

Sryth, I was not saying that. Of course I know that it will make the 2000 faster with a y-pipe. I was just wondering if there was any way for us to achieve what they have withough having to do an engine swap. Kind of curious.

Keep the comments coming. Thanks for posting all.

nismology

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The main power difference between the DE and DE-K is the VI so the DE-K will always make more power mod for mod (including VQ's with MEVI) unless someone retrofits the DE-K VI on the DE.

And as for the cams, only the exhaust cams would prove beneficial as they have slight more lift. The intake cams would actually hurt performance ever so slightly as they have the same lift but less duration. Just reiterating what SteVTEC already said.

ManualMaxima

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they rev fats as ****! my bro has a 2001 and it is fast as all hell with the rev. The engine feels more solid to me. This is even more with my dad's 2003

nismology

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What exactly are you saying??

Brudaddy

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Thanks, Iwannamax96. I appreciate it.

I know that the 2001's are faster. I wasn't really talking about them, because that is when they changed it to like 245 hp or something, wasn't it? I have never driven a 5th gen with a stick, only auto. My 4th gen is a 5spd, and it is about as fast as some 5th gen 2000's with auto I have been around.

Brudaddy

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And of course the 2003's are faster, they are 3.5L and they put out like 265 hp. That is a different engine and different beast alltogether.

ManualMaxima

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you got all you hp mixed up....2001 = 222hp and 2002 - 2003 = 255. 2004 and up =265

IwANnAMaX96- i was just saying that i can tell there is many different parts inside the engine as well as out. The engine revs much fast which robely means differnt valves and all that crap.

Brudaddy

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bump.

Any new comments on what all this would take to get it to the 2000, without doing an entire engine swap?

DoGGy

different exhaust system

Brudaddy

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I don't think that would get it, DoGGy. When everyone else is talking about different injectors and such, the exhaust would not do it alone, I don't think. Any reasons why you said what you did?

JAY25

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Steve whats your opinion? you think I can drop this block into my car by swapping lower manifold etc..into my car? I dont care, I am willling to try it, as long as it can handle 10PSI.

Kahren

why not swap a 300zx rotating assembly in, it sa stronger crank and will up teh displacement to somethign liek 3.4 liters i belive this gives the engine another 45 hp at wheels and 50 tq

mzmtg

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Because they won't fit, that's why not.

Maximus101

I don't think you can just bolt on the Variable intake from a 2000 model to a 98 unless you have alittle machine work done to the heads. Besides they already make a Variable intake for 98's that bolt's on without headwork, so just get that one.

Also, I'm I missing something here? I thought that 4th gen maxima's are faster then 5th gen's in the 1/4 mile. And the fifth gen's are faster just getting to top speed? My 4th gen is an auto & I have beaten 5th gen stick's stop light to stop light with no problem's...

krismax

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Putting 2000 vi on forth gen has nothing to do with heads.
I will have it on my 96 soon . Im just putting together the last things that i need.

Street Reeper

There is somthing seriously wrong with your car if you are getting beat by 2000-2001 auto's in your five speed. A 4th gen should be faster than a 2000-01 Max, they are lighter.

maxima_kid

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i was new to maximas when i bought my 99, then i realized it was a few months shy of the 222hp. hella dissapointed, i searched for weeks if anyone ever tried swapping the 98.5 into a 98. if anyone ever heard of it successfully, let know. a 32hp stock gain is worth the trouble to me.

JAY25

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You can drop any engine from 95-99 into a 4th gen. What makes them different is the externals, i.e.. the vacuum lines the surrounding electronics that surround the block. Thats it right there. I dropped a 95 block into my 98. You can drop a 99 block into a 95. I am so freaking hard headed I may drop a 01 block into my 95. I am sure I can make that work. Key word "BLOCK" only

liqidvenom

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so im guessing its possible to drop in a 2003 block into my 98? i guess i would also need all the electronics that comes with it. does anybody know of someone who did a swap like that?

wiseking

i thought the 2000-2002 was 222, and then 245 for 03 and 265 for 04?

Taken2DaMax

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that's correct but anything is possible with time and money...

ScarfaceTHX

I was told the 222hp models were the slowest maximas to date since the pre-3rd gen SE's.

Is $160 for a warpspeed y-pipe for ?30? whp not a better deal than swapping for an engine that is designed for another vehicle and the same or less performance gains??? I mean, I know you can put a y-pipe on the 22, but if you're gonna tune it for any racing there can't be that huge of an inherent advantage, and if there is, IT'S A MAXIMA.

nismology

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Nah...

'00-'01- 222 HP
'01 AE- 227 HP
'02-'03- 245 HP
'04- 265 HP

Tatanko

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'02-'03 are 255, not 245.

Shift_my vq

Ok guys let's get over this 5th gen to 4th gen swap and find somebody with real guts and have a nissan titan what is I think 5.6 liter to 4th gen swap. ha ha ha ha

Tatanko

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Assuming someone did it, I can just imagine the whole front end of the car sort of sagging down...but it's not really possible (except with lots of money, of course).

Think about it...we complain about torque steer now, imagine with all the torque from that thing

SuperFishstick

I agree, my 98 5 spd, (when it was healthy ) would stomp on a 2000-2003 auto, even with some mods. For the 2002, its driver skill, since he has auto, and all he needs is to punch it, while u got to worry not to mess up on the start/shift.

Brudaddy

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Titan engines are larger than just 5.6 liter.

I know street reeper, I should be able to beat a early model 5th gen any day, and can. I was just saying, my reason in posting the thread, that if we could achieve the same hp from all engine that they do in our lighter bodies, we ought to be just awesome.

nismology

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The 2nd gen VQ35 in the '02-'03 maxima was overrated from the factory. Based on dyno #'s, trap speeds and other technical crap it has closer to 240-245 HP at the flywheel like the 3.5 V6 Altimas.

Jack3D

What vi are u talking about? a stock one or after market? could it be put in a 96?

Brudaddy

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good question?