Good luck with the new ride Adam. Sorry we never hooked up at Rantoul. I'll keep my eye out for a Z28 down there in May

 

yeah m3 paddle shifter is so sweet and plus performance stays the same and you do not have to move the stick around to get into gear. just hit the shifter on the sterring wheel to go up or down in gears. i love it.

 

Try going to a Camero thread and telling everyone you traded your Camero for a Maxima. Geez I thought we had more CLASS!!

Enjoy your new ride!!

 

What is going to be even more insane is the new ~5.0L V-10 in the upcoming E60 ///M5. ~8500 rpm and 500 hp that results in 0-200kph in 13 seconds! I can't wait to hear that machine scream!

Back to the topic, I wish JDM4life many happy and reliable miles with the Z28. My friend recently owned a 95 6-speed (all options, leather, Bose etc. etc.) and due to reliability issues ended up selling it and buying a used Lexus IS300. The car was very exciting to drive though and if not for it falling apart weekly (@ 80k miles) it would have been a most excellent vehicle. I'm sure my friend's Z28 is more of the exception than the rule. Enjoy the beast but try not to neglect that 3rd gen of yours.

 

new m5 will be crazy fast. maybe then bmw will put a v8 in the m3. oh i forgot, no more m3, m4 soon.

 

Thanks dustink, along with my empirical data, you are yet another person in just this post mentioning reliability problems with camaros. Hmm, consumer reports and myself be onto something?

So why would you wish something on him (reliable miles) if you know he most likely won't have them. You can wish in one hand and **** in the other, which one do you think will get full first? Just kidding.

 

This is America, dont apologize for your honest opinion that wasnt directly offending anyone. You have the right to say how you feel about a product, to rate the product and to even complain or compliament a product (I.E your LOCAL BBB)

As for American cars? Personally there is not an AMERICAN engineered car that I would drive over an import. No person with half an idea of whats going on in the automotive world can say "American cars are the same quality as they used to be" That being said, most import companies are delievering what the consumer whats. Quality, Reliability and Performance. Americans are still purchasing alot of used cars and thats where you see a companies reliablity record really kick in. We all know a HONDA, TOYOTA and even NISSAN will last forever. VOLVO and Mercedes can be the same way. However most American Engineered cars are made to be throw aways after a few years. Not all but most.

If you have been keeping up with the industry lately you will know that in the next 5 to 10 years you will see a noticeable improvement in the quality of American Engineered cars. American Car Companies are losing a good amount of business to imports.

Prophecy

 

you can still count on me to show up to those. the bigger question is whether i'll be in my Z or my 89 maxima i can tell you right now, i'd drive better in the old max. i've driven 3.0L fwd nissans for the last 7 years and have driven rwd V8 for all of about a week. i've still got $200 in custommaxima gift certificates sitting around from x-mas too

btw, i agree with most of the posts on here to a point. i'm not gonna read back to see who said one thing, but i'll restate it in a way. at some time during driving my car, seeing yet another CEL pop up and having one of my dozens of mishaps i've had with my car, i decided it's kinda prejudice the way people rag on american cars. my buddy has a 98 accord that's already had an abs problem, mysterious CELs, a bad O2 sensor, etc etc another friend of mine had a nissan truck for years. it got bad mileage (especially for it being a 4-cylinder), was always needing maintainance, and just wasn't running right half the time. those are just two examples. granted, american cars do have plenty of problems too. i just don't think they're as unreliable when compared to imports as people tend to say/believe. not to mention, prices are much better for domestics. the only company that sells motor mounts for a maxima charges $260-285 for a set of motor mounts. a set of Prothane motor mounts for my Z28 is $49. Most brand name catbacks run around $450+ for our cars while you can pick up most of the same quality exhausts for my camaro for $300 or even less. it may be old pushrod technology, but it's fun to drive (in my opinion) and was a much better deal than buying an import around here. the only 300ZX I found within 45 miles was a 90 N/A with t-tops and 90k miles. they were asking $8900 for it and didn't want to go any lower. i went down the street and picked up a car that's significantly faster, less miles, newer and costs almost 3 grand less. maybe the 300ZX had a better resale value to an extent, but those previous points are why i bought my Z28. i know a lot of you are extremely big import fans, i still am too. i just think that you need to "broaden your horizons" and realize that if you look past all the stuff said about domestics, they're good cars also!

 

cant do that man. imports and me is a perfect match. plus i cant see me driving a american car plus all my budies will laugh cause they all drive imports.

 

JDM4LIFE- I would just like to congratulate you on your crossing over to the dark side. You will grow to love your F-body, all of its flaws included.


First off, I would like to go ahead and apologize for the negative tonality that my first post on Maxima.org is about to take, although I do not mean to make anyone cry

Guido, you are a close minded tool. Your views on American MUSCLE CARS (F-bodies are not sports cars, sorry) are extremely tainted by the dreamland within your twisted mind.

Yes American muscle cars are considered unrefined in comparison with many import cars, Maximas included. I would know, I am the previous owner of a Nissan Maxima SE and my brother currently owns a 99 Maxima SE. The problem with you condemning American muscle cars for being unrefined is that not every person in the United States of America has fantasies of driving a high dollar European, German, or Japanese automobile. The American who goes out and purchases a Zo6 Corvette, Dodge Viper, or god forbid an F-body, may not be looking to buy a car with full leather interior, high tech air-conditioning and stereo controls, and all the other foo foo stuff associated with the cars set within your bias. Not everyone pours over the pages of their fresh off the press Car and Driver in pure ecstasy while jacking off as they look at the latest Bmw, Ferrari, or Mercedes as I’m sure you do-but hey, TO EACH HIS OWN. Some people simply buy these piece of trash American cars because it reminds them of their childhood or it is simply WHAT THEY LIKE. Don’t try and force your close-minded opinions on others that American muscle cars are all trash and all need drastic changes.


Ni_Nos_Maxima:

Your friend who totaled his F-body going 30mph was simply an unlucky man. My best friend wrecked his 97 SS going 120 (he left the road and got acquainted with a guardrail down in a ditch, yes he got airborne) . he WALKED away and his car was FAR from totaled. Your friend obviously chose a bad exhaust, similar to many import drivers (fartcans). BIG engines make BIG heat, we call this common sense. A motor from a remote control car is going to produce much less heat than the $15,000 fully forged 383 which is now in my friends 97 SS which earned its wings. Please open your mind.

Whose' next? vsamoylov please step to the plate.

"well the vette can be easily compared to the new bmw m3." Well you know what two cars I can EASILY compare? A Ford pinto to a Ferrari Enzo, and it doesn’t mean crap. What it all shakes down to is that those are two different cars which are aimed at two different markets. How about we compare my LS1 Trans Am with your 1996 GLE? Sure you can haul more groceries than me but any performance questions drive on down to the drag strip and we'll line them up, I‘ll hand you your butt in the slalom too. OR we can put the ’04 Maxima up next to my ‘98 which is SIX years older and what do you get? If you want to talk performance between these to very different cars which were about the same price new well.... you just got served.

‘04 maxima 27-29k. 98 ta with 24k miles, 14k. Getting your @ss handed to you on a silver platter by an outdated, discontinued, unrefined piece of American trash, priceless.


Personally I didn't really care for the high technology, interior refinement, and lack of power and performance associated with my high dollar import. No not my maxima, my LEXUS SC400. So I sold it and bought my LS1 and I haven’t looked back yet. Yeah, everybody told me my car was going to blow up and fall apart but I have had no such problem, only tears of joy here. My stock T/A turns more heads than my black SC400 with 18” Moda R6’s ever did and this car PERFORMS. Yes folks, that’s what its all about for most people who purchase American Muscle cars, performance. I don't care about sitting on plush leather seats, dual climate control, digital stereo and climate control, TRACTION CONTROL, high tech stability control, seamless interiors, so I can sip my Starbucks frappacino in complete comfort. I'd prefer to blast my American rock and roll(so I can't hear the rattles) with my t-tops off, wind blowing in my hair, as I blast around a 90 degree turn with tires smoking and exhaust roaring. This isn't for everyone though, and I understand this.

Moral of the story, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. I had to step beyond this because obviously being kind doesn’t always work. Drive what you like, and don't tell others what they should drive. America is about freedom to choose, and yes....freedom of speech. Don't be a hater, be a lover.

Have respect for all cars, if they were all the same, cars would be boring and everyone would be driving the car you love. Please notice I never slammed Maxima’s, they are great cars and I would love to have one for a daily driver because things can get rough with my suspension mods.

Leave the trash talk to the civic drivers with ridiculous wings and fartcans.


Again, JDM4LIFE congratulations on your F-body American muscle car purchase, and yes, keep your Max for a daily driver. Never become overwhelmed with cockiness even though its tough when imports try and trash talk you. Remember there is always going to be somebody faster than you. If your not in a situation to have a real discussion with trash talkers just laugh and drive away, slowly. Keep the racing at the track, you now officially have to be extra cautious of the peering eyes of the donut dunkers, those sneaky sons of *****es.

ban me or love/hate me for who I am.

MY FLAME SUIT IS ON.

 

a m3 and a vette is actually in the sam freaking catagorie. both are high class performance cars. and you comparing a pinto and a enzo? they are not in the same class. so you cannot compare cars that are not even related to each other at all.

and perfornce wise, look at the specs of a vette and a m3. m3 is inline6 pushing out 333 horses and rocks you to 60 in 4.7 seconds. a vette is a 5.7 liter v8. and people that drive m3 are buy those cars for perfornace also. they just heav amore taste when they choose to spend $50 k on car. and you can do everything in a m3 that u can do in a vette and even better. so dont give me this crap about how a vette is the best sports car out there. thats plain bull. i mean you get what u pay for and for what u pay u get good perfronce but a m3 is a better bargain.

 

i was exagerrating fool. m3 and corvette= 2 differnet cars. one high performance luxuory, one american muscle car. one I6, one V8. this makes them aimed at two very different markets which is what my exagerated example was meant to express. sorry you didn't catch that.

Its not a matter of tastes, mabey what society defines as "classy" but not tastes. Oh and i never said it was the best sports car out there so shut up. Don't twist my words and put them out of context because ur panties are in a twist.

"i mean you get what u pay for and for what u pay u get good perfronce but a m3 is a better bargain." mabey a better bargain in your opinion but look at the differences in cost of modding these two cars. have a nice day and try not to let this discussion ruin it.

 

Let me begin gentlemen by saying, rice belongs in a chinese resturant. Second, what is the fastest time a maxima has ever run, as compared to maybe a..... well muscle car. And lets talk about this thing called power, now it's not how good your mother sucks a ****, it's what your engine produces. now with most of you lack there of, you have no room to speak. so american cars are not packed with computers and all that junk, that AMERICAN muscle proves your don't need to run, well, faster then all of you. now im not saying there aren't some nice foreign cars, there are, but you compared a vette to a maxima, dumbasses. two whole different league of cars. while a maxima picks up the kids from daycare and gets grandma to bingo, a vette gets you from point A to wherever the hell you want to go, fast. and have fun ordering your parts for that m5. later gents...... and i want a good arguement.

 

man u have the same freaking problem ordering parts for a vette just as much for a m5 or a m3. and you could mod a m3 more than a vette. and please dont tell me you saying that a vette is not classy. i see more women driving vettes than women in m3. plus if it is a muscle car, what is up with the auto tranny. most people that buy vettes also buy them to show off and so they make it a auto instead of a a stick. people that drive m3 are mostly business men but that just means that they are not true enthusiasts just like some pople here on the org.

 

no parts are significantly cheaper for vettes than m3's or m5's check out the web fool. i never said vettes weren't classy, again with the twisting of words. try to follow me here and keep up with the mentality of the conversation.

Muscle car + auto tranny= consitant times at the dragstrip u freakin moron. Built autos are proven better at the dragstrip, just check the top 10 times at any dragstrip and see what tranny their packin. but you probably don't go to the track much bc u spend all of ur time revving your engin in traffic i'm sure.

"i see more women driving vettes than women in m3."~does the number of women driving a car determine how classy it is? NO, again, your retarted.

do i hear a bell ringing? because your getting schooled.

 

huh whats that. oh yeah i forgot.

now take a look at fromula 1 races. they do not use autos do they? they use smg gearbox just like the m3. the americans dont even have that technology so every race car u see out there on the track is either auto or stick. so whats that tell you? checy can even offer you that cause they did not develop it yet and thats why they try to catch up by making engines with huge displacment. that is all they know how to do. and what is that supposed to mena that i spend my time reving my engine in traffic? i'm soory but not my fault if i actually do things to my car that are not just mods. and if u dont women have good taste and clas, u know what that means then. women finds vettes atractive but dont know **** about them and probably they do not even know ho to drive a stick.

like my neighbor for example. he has a pewter 99 hardtop vette and it is a auto. he says the reason he got it is for the way it looks and he is the typical american that listens to rock music.

 

Ok, first off, lets remember that for 50k we're not talking about a regular vette. For 50k we're talking about a Z06. An M3 will get it's lunch money taking by a Z06 every day of the week. A Z06 will take your M3 on the strip or on the roadcourse, and probably get better gas mileage doing so.

2 years ago I paid $15,500 for my 98 TA (Trans Am for you tools) with 34k on the clock. Stock it went 13.3 with an auto. My mind is blank trying to think of any foriegn car I can buy for $15k that stock with an auto will run...well...heck, even 14's in the 1/4. There have been people with A4's (Auto again for you tools) that ran 12.9 off the showroom floor, NA for under 30k (price of the car).

And reliability? I had to sell my TA last year and with 75k, the only problem I ever had was when a pop-up headlight gear took a dump. There are MANY people with LS1 vette's and F-Body's with way past 100k with no probs at all. Many of these people are still spraying on their stock bottem ends with no issues to speak of. Reliability is all in how well you maintain your engine. Don't change your oil in an import and you'll likely have the same probs as not changing your oil in a domestic.

 

Why can't we all just love cars? In my opinion (which nobody has to agree with), an M3 is a beautiful woman in a classy black dress who wants to go out for a gourmet dinner and dancing, while a vette is a beautiful woman in a string bikini who wants to go out to a strip club (or not go out at all). People may choose one over the other because they don't like black dresses or dancing or bikinis or strip clubs, but everyone agrees that the women are both beautiful, and I personally wouldn't turn down either one...

...oh, crap. I see the flame brigades coming. ::cringes::

JDM, have fun with your Z28 (AND your max)... I keep telling my friend to get one of them so he can have a REAL Camaro, since for some reason, Chevy forgot two of the cylinders on his engine... hah! Drive safely.

 

now u are on crack. germans actually car about gas prices and gas mileage and everybody knows that a m3 gets good gas mileage no matter how hard u drive it. with a vette, you wot it and gas mileage goes down fast. and i highly doubt that a vette will take a m3 and if it will, it depends on the driver. and a car that you could get right now between $15-$20 k depending on the condstion is a e39 m3. 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and a 1/4 mile in 13.5 and i know this cause my bro used to own a 96 m3 and gas mileage on that thing was incredible also.

 

You my friend, are apparently close-minded and uninformed. Ever hear of Turbo Buicks? GM was using small displacement SC'd performance V6's in the 80's. And that almost 20 yr. old General will hand your M3,M5,350Z, and definatly any Maxima it's ***! They also did this with the '89 Turbo TA, and the early '90s Typhoon and Cyclone.

 

yeah but thats with a trubo. everybody in that time was using turbo. then it stopped in the late 90s and is starting up again. what happens if you take the tubo off or the superchatger? u get a cheap civic. i mean i agree with huge displcament but that displacement better show some good numbers. if the vette was done right with its huge displacment, it shoud have been at least to hit 60 in 4.3 seconds or lower. the m3 racecar which has a v8 in it hits 60 in like 3.8 or faster (have to check specs). now i understand that and by the looks of it, we will see that engine in the m4 cause the m5 gets the v10.

 

do u have an smg gearbox? thats right NO. again shut the f**k up. nissans don't have them and neighter do we so quit insulting yourself, you look like a moron.

They make big displacement engines becuase that is their heritage and tradition. just like it is for import companies to generally focus on getting higher horsepower per litre. its just they way that seperate and DIFFERENT companies do things. not all car companies are the same, this makes the market different so it will appeal to DIFFERENT people with DIFFERENT likes and dislikes. Not every car manufacturer is trying to please just u and people who like what you like.

"'m soory but not my fault if i actually do things to my car that are not just mods." what? what else to u do then? we know u drive it so what else is there? do u have sex with it?

"and if u dont women have good taste and clas, u know what that means then. women finds vettes atractive but dont know **** about them and probably they do not even know ho to drive a stick." Ok so now we have established that your a sexist pig. your scoring points all over the board. i bet you really hit it off with all the ladies don't you? yes lots of ladies like vettes and i know lots of ladies that like dirt track cars. however, these women have mullets and shop at walmart for all of their needs. they also live in trailers. Does this make dirt track cars classy? AGAIN YOUR RETARTED. I know several ladies who drive sticks and they will hand u your butt anyday in a race, don't make me have them post up, your taking enough of a beating already. And no they don't have mullets. you'd probably give your left nut to sleep with them, that is assuming your not gay but i'm not so sure about that one.

"like my neighbor for example. he has a pewter 99 hardtop vette and it is a auto. he says the reason he got it is for the way it looks and he is the typical american that listens to rock music." ~Would you like to make sense of this comment bc i see no point to it. You live in America and are you saying you don't listen to rock and roll? Thats ok if you don't but in my opinion that seems a bit unamerican. Don't tell me your one of those cool guys that drives around listening to scatman on repeat because it attracts the ladies. Your obviously getting more and more upset so why don't you just stop now. this isn't fun for me anymore, and i'm sure its not fun for you. Your making yourself look more and more retarted so do yourself a favor and stop talking.

Class is generally determined by the rich and famous, not by women. sorry. go home.

 

oh and did i mention your freaking retarted?

Again with your useless comment:

"if the vette was done right with its huge displacment..." - i'll stop there

Let ME remind you as of 2003 the C5-R was the two-time defending GTS class champion at the legendary Le Sarthe circuit and in the American Le Mans Series. Where were your high tech imports here?

Well on march 23 2004 at the 12-hour Sebring race your imports were AT LEAST 22 laps behind the corvette. The Corvette finished 22 laps ahead of the next GTS car, a Ferrari. Oh dang. oh oh dang. shut up again.

annnnd.... there is no replacement fooooorrrrr.........displacement.

Your extreme lack of knowledge and ignorance makes baby jebus cry. please stop now. i have plenty of time, its rainy and cold, and i wish to educate you more than anything in the world. lets explore your next area of weakness. post away fool.

 

my thoughts exactly

 

oh and as was brought to my attention by one of my friends, gm never made a pewter 99 hardtop vette with an auto. so your neighbor owns a mystery mobile. Hey look, your still retarted.

all of the 99 hardtops were manual six speeds with t56's u dousche. mabey you should go next door and learn something from your neighbor and quit making ludacris comments. everytime you open your mouth, peoples iq's are dropping. spare us please.

heres the link so u can figure out what your neighbor really owns. notice that the a4 (4 speed auto with overdrive) is not an option for the 99 hardtop coupe.

Blantant specs here:
http://www.carsdirect.com/research/c...,USA90CHC061A0

Interesting article also proving u wrong and further supporting my point that american muscle cars are about bang for buck:
http://waw.wardsauto.com/ar/auto_cor...hardtop_chalk/

u've been:
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Dude you just got made his b!tch. If i where you i would take my 16 year old non ***** getting wast of a life in your room and do us all a favor and put a bullit in your head. You know nothing and make your self look dumber with each comment. Off with you.

 

so how the heall are u going to bring my car into this and mix it it with what i was saying about smg? and the re u calling a fool? i know more **** about imports then your stupid ***. ****, all you know about is your ****ing vette and thats it. i actually get dirty in my garage by actually fixing things. oh did u ever do a engine sawp? or how about take a gearbox apart? do u even know how to change the oil on your vette or u take it to the dealer? your *** is probably in love with vettes and that is all u do is read and dream about them. comming over here on the org. and thinking your the ****. am go back to ur vettes forums. i admit that i dont know a whole lot about vettes and american cars but that is because i am not into them. step into the import world and you know what i am talking about. ****. and since i live in america, that does not mean that i have to listen to rock.

and the last thing is i dont give a **** abou vettes
**** off man

 

The point is you whre bashing American made cars. That is why your piece of **** got brought up. WOW you can pull a motor that weighs as much as my tranny. Good for you. Why dont you try to pull a v8? Why dont you try to learn some thing about where your hobby of moding cars came from? Thats right if it wasnt for us redneck white trash muscle car drivers every body would be happy with there car stock. And i find this last post of yours funny. It sounds like you are a whinney b!tch. Face tghe facts dude your imports SUCK

 

lol ur ingnorant.

let me break it down for ya:

A. I own a 1998 ta (trans am) not a vette.

B. Just becuase u pick up a wrench now and then dosn't mean u know ur ****. Yes i do know about cars or else how did i get a job at a bodyshop u tool?

C. My Car has not seen the dealership since its been in my ownership

D. I know about imports, i used to be obsessed with them and thought they were God. I've owned 2 of them. One slower than yours, one that would run urs down in any area. Read all the posts before u reply.

E. I stepped into the import world and i stepped out. I still respect them. just not people like yourself.

F. u cuss to much, obviously ur mother didn't wash your mouth out with enough soap. your a goon

G. I never said you HAD to listen to rock. still twisting my words.

H. I already know u don't give a ______ about vettes, u made that obvious with your closeminded ignorance.

I.you brought this all upon yourself when you tried to drop a bomb on american cars. ur a big man talking trash behind american sports car owners backs.

J. notice how you have no support so far. does this tell you something? it tells me your the type of guy that gives imports a bad name. the only reason some american sports car owners have lost respect for imports is because of people like yourself. pat yourself on the back, your worthless.

K. You've managed to lose what no amount of money can buy. RESPECT.

You've been digging for a long time. Why don't u just put down your shuvle and appologize?

Shall we continue?

You----><-----Me

 

Can i ask all you Maxima tools a question? How many of you all have over 500 horsepower and 500ft-lbs of torque to the wheels, Without the use of a power-adder I might add. LS1 Camaros and Firebirds are hitting these numbers all the time.
How many Maximas on record have hit 8's in the quarter mile? American Cars do it all the time. Ford's new GT beat out a Porsche and a Ferrari and the GT had a cheaper price tag. Check in your favorite mag Car and Driver,the mag ricers favor most. What do your granny moblies run in the quarter stock? Race car driver Paul Svinicki clocked off 12.97 in a new Mach1 bone stock with drag radials.The Lingenfelter Performance twin-turbo Corvette ran 8.95 and is a street car. I think all of you driving the grandma car needs to get the facts before running your mouth and shut the hell up when you talking about a car you know nothing about. Now go to your room no more sushi for you.

 

please keep the beating to the fool vsamoylov and a few others who stepped up to the plate.

Everyone else here has remained respectful and showed respect for american muscle. lets return the respect.

My brother for example is a two time maxima owner. He chooses to drive a maxima becasue he realizes an all out muscle car isn't best for a daily driver especially if your a fanatic that likes to keep their car clean enough to eat off of. When the money becomes available he will own his own piece of american muscle to take out on nice days. Personally, i'm impulsive and i couldn't wait so i bought a ta. My brother was the one who saved me from making the mistake of buying a mustang gt and talked me into buying an ls1 f-body, i owe him much thanks. thank you jarrad.

Although maximas are not running with our f-bodies for the most part, that dosn't mean they don't deserve respect. maximas are great cars and the one that i drove took a severe beating from both my brother and i. It also held its styling for years. we are all fellow car enthusiasts alike and you don't have to own a sub 14 second car in order to justify modifying it. Do your own thing and keep the hate for the tools.

And remember, there is always somebody faster, even if you drive an f-body.

 

You are a moron. Your brother couldn't have had an ?E39? M3, there is no such thing. There is an E36 M3, that was made in '96. You couldn't get that car to run a 13.5 off a cliff. They are low 14s at best. With all the mods you can expect around 250rwhp, THEN you'll be running in the low 13s. I'm a BMW tech, all the numbers you've posted so far are WRONG. You're out of your league, and you have no idea what you're talking about!

For heck sake, you can't even complete a sentence! Nothing you've said so far has any merit.

As for the new E46 M3s getting incredible gas mileage, even while driven hard, that's BS! They will easily get down to 12mpg or less with beating. They arn't as spectacular as you might think. A Z06 vette with a 6 speed WILL get better gas mileage.

As previously stated, a standard vette will probably run with an M3. A Z06 will obliterate one. Any way you put it, on any grounds.

Your making me want to pull my hair out with these inaccurate posts! I guess I'll have tio sit back and wait for ol' DARWIN.

 

LOL, what are you working on, tinker toys? It's called a transmission A-hole. I HIGHLY doubt, you would even be able to drop the tranny from the car. If you can't understand the alphabet, and how to use it, I have a hard time believing you could pull a motor.

Notice how he says "how about take a gearbox apart." I'm willing to bet it's still sitting on the floor (if it's even out of the car) in pieces, while he's scratching his head trying to mash an input shaft back into the ol' RS5F50A.

 

you ****'s need to get your crap straight I have a 1968 Camaro, that's real sheet metal boys, not plastic like your little toys, my tires are as wide as your chest and my engine weighs 600 lbs. I have 400 Hp at the fly without a turbo or SC yet the block is original which would happen to be 36 years old......take your new imports and suck a ****, there's nothing like a well tuned V8 and that's why most of us american drivers hate on you all and call you "rice" because daddy pays for everything and you dont know **** about your cars

 

Wow... some of you guys are just fools... Well, I really liked the part about how american cars don't have modern technology. That is totall bull ****.. Though, I guess if it isn't neon colors and flaming gay, then its not modern technology. Just because there is no tv, or fancy seats in these f-bods and even vettes, its not the technology... it was meant to keep the price low, and the cars lighter... All new americans use some of the newest technology out there as far as parts are concerned, if there werent, then the cars wouldn't pass inspections or emissions or any of that crap.

I really like all these 0-60 times posted... 0-60 times have got to be the most inconsistent times, due to the short period of time they take place, and the amount of driving abilitly that is involved in getting a car to its fastest potential. and guess what... car magazines dont always have the fastest times, and the times they do post are just what they got, it is not set in stone...

An M3 will never have more potential than a vette... the higher displacement will always have the higher potential, no matter what. I don't see why that was brought up...

vsamoylov, you are probably the biggest dumb *** and bench-racing ricer I have ever seen. You clearly suck at life...

 

take it easy Milla ricers dont go to the track, they get a stop watch and accelerate until they hit 60 and if it's below 9 then they must be fast!

 

two different cars serving two very different purposes.

i have one thing to say about the M3 vs. Corvette thing: Motortrend picked the M3 as their winner in the "Speed Wars" issue, becuase "it had a back seat" even though it came in second in nearly every test.

i dont know where yall have been but i dust every corvette mustang f body ferarri bmw lexus cadallac honda saab kia infinity nissan lamborgini daewoo mitsubishi subaru mercedes porsche opel renault toyota mini audi acura chrysler dodge jaguar hummer izuzu jeep landrover lincoln mazda mercury oldsmobile peugeot pontiac saturn suzuki vw volvo hugo eagle geo amc alfa romeo buick bertone daihatsu hyundai pinifarina and plymouth

did i miss anyone?



were going to beech bend this saturday everyone come on down and we can all
each other around in person

show 'em the mods

 

Hey, I've got 4 seats too, but who the hell cares. I don't want a damn soul in the car unless it's gonna be packed with girls. You can haul around all your fudgepacking buddies in your 15 second G ride all day long.

 

how in the hell are you going to compare a corvette to a bmw race car?

 

"i dont know where yall have been but i dust every corvette mustang f body ferarri bmw lexus cadallac honda saab kia infinity nissan lamborgini daewoo mitsubishi subaru mercedes porsche opel renault toyota mini audi acura chrysler dodge jaguar hummer izuzu jeep landrover lincoln mazda mercury oldsmobile peugeot pontiac saturn suzuki vw volvo hugo eagle geo amc alfa romeo buick bertone daihatsu hyundai pinifarina and plymouth

did i miss anyone?"


ah yes that would be my brother.