4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999) Visit the 4th Generation forum to ask specific questions or find out more about the 4th Generation Maxima.

belts squeal at startup

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 06:55 PM
  #1  
maxxximum90's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 129
belts squeal at startup

Is there anything i can do to prevent/fix this. i read about a belt tensioner, but have no clue where to locate it. any pics would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 07:05 PM
  #2  
mansurxk's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,712
From: New Jersey
Originally Posted by maxxximum90
Is there anything i can do to prevent/fix this. i read about a belt tensioner, but have no clue where to locate it. any pics would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance

try belt dressing, but i tmight be your starter not disengaging from the flywheel fast enough, so your getting a squeal, dont qutoe me on that, but i recall reading a few posts a few months aback about this
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 07:21 PM
  #3  
JDM_Maxima's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 148
belts

Originally Posted by maxxximum90
Is there anything i can do to prevent/fix this. i read about a belt tensioner, but have no clue where to locate it. any pics would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance


if you are sure its the belts first take alot at them
see if theyre wearing thin, have and cracks and things of the sort
it might be time to replace them
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 07:36 PM
  #4  
Wills98MaxSE's Avatar
1 of few unmodded 4G Maxs
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,827
From: Commerce Twp., MI
the belt tensioner is to the left of the hose leading to the thermostat (near the alternator area)

as for the noise, check your belt tension 1st, if all is well, then you need new belts

Come to think of it I'm probably due for new belts. These are the original belts w/ close to 105K on them. They look rusty and make noise, the tension is good. Would I also be due for a new set of belts?
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 07:43 PM
  #5  
Wills98MaxSE's Avatar
1 of few unmodded 4G Maxs
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,827
From: Commerce Twp., MI
Originally Posted by mansurxk
try belt dressing
unless you wanna kiss your belts goodbye, that's not a good idea

I used belt-dressing once on a car I drove in high school. It had a mid to late 80s version of GM's 3800 V6 motor, one belt driving everything. It didn't take long enough for the belt to fly off to leave me stranded
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 07:52 PM
  #6  
mdwst51's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 79
When I start my car, the engine starts then a loud 1-2 second high pitched squeal comes out. Is this what you're talking about? I've been a little concerned about this because it's been happening ever since I bought the car.

I don't know if this is unique or not, but when I drive around and get the engine warmed up, turn it off, start it again, I don't hear the squeal anymore. Same thing goes if I park in really hot sun for a long time. Is this the starter or belts?
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 08:14 PM
  #7  
maxspeed96CT's Avatar
The original VQ...
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,804
From: CT
my car hs ben doing this sence i installed my underdrive pulley, so i thought it was normal, i felt alittle payon the tentioner puller during the install, could this be making the noise??
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 08:30 PM
  #8  
formz
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
All the problems everyone in this thread is mentioning is belt related. Tighten them up.
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 05:59 AM
  #9  
a_prince1's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 247
From: ChiTown, IL
agree >>> tighten your belts
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 08:18 AM
  #10  
sk24iam's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,570
Yep, I have this problem too. Tightened them... didn't work. Changed them... sound came back after a month. Some people have it, some don't. Must by a maxima thing.
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 09:05 AM
  #11  
formz
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by sk24iam
Yep, I have this problem too. Tightened them... didn't work. Changed them... sound came back after a month. Some people have it, some don't. Must by a maxima thing.
No, it's not a maxima thing. Here is what happened to you:

Your belts were squeeling because they were a) too lose b) falling apart.
You changed your belts to new belts. They stopped squeeling.
A month goes by, and those factory belts stretch a little bit over time, meaning you have to RETIGHTEN THEM to stop them from squeeling. They're just made of rubber and thread, they will stretch out a little bit from factory spec after you buy them. Tighten them AGAIN. This happenes with every car, unless the person who changed them compensated for the fact that new belts will stretch a little bit in the first month, and overtightened them from the beginning.
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 09:08 AM
  #12  
sk24iam's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,570
OK, I will try that. I want to make sure I do it right then. The tightener is to the left of the valve cover, correct? And do I turn it clockwise or counter clockwise? ANd how much do i tighten it?
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 09:18 AM
  #13  
WhiteMax96's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 206
if you want to be sure that it's coming from your belts, start the engine and spray some silicone lubricant or WD-40 stuff on them. If the sound is still there, search for something else like tensioner, water pump, etc... If the sound dissapear, it's your belts. Change them if they are worn or thighten them if they seems ok. Don't overtighten them too much, it's not good for the pulley.
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 11:42 AM
  #14  
mdwst51's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 79
Can I tighten them myself or should I bring it to someone else? Approximate cost? Thanks
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 12:21 PM
  #15  
maxxximum90's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 129
i looked at where the tensioner should be and its not there...im guessing someone took it off????
looked at my moms 97 gle and she has one. wtf happened to mine??? can i buy one at napa or do i have to go to a nissan dealer
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 02:34 PM
  #16  
WhiteMax96's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 206
WTF is that?? You don't have your tensionner in place???
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 03:31 PM
  #17  
sk24iam's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,570
You could prob get one from dealer. ight, I teightened mine a few turns, (i think it was counter clockwise) and it seems to ahve gone away. But well see cause it only happens when the car isn't warmed up.
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 04:21 PM
  #18  
cydrive's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 345
From: Medford, MA
Originally Posted by sk24iam
OK, I will try that. I want to make sure I do it right then. The tightener is to the left of the valve cover, correct? And do I turn it clockwise or counter clockwise? ANd how much do i tighten it?

clockwise tightens it. I was just doing that two hours ago. You need a size 14 socket or spanner
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 04:27 PM
  #19  
cydrive's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 345
From: Medford, MA
Just thought of some thing else- there's actually two places to tighten the belts. One is the one we're talking about right now. The other one is down below by the oil filter- you'd have to go under the car to get at that. They are independent of each other. Hopefully your problem is with the one up top not the one at the bottom
Old Apr 24, 2004 | 05:48 PM
  #20  
maxxximum90's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 129
yea..mine is missing... no wonder mine squeal at startup. this cant be a good thing
Old Apr 25, 2004 | 01:25 PM
  #21  
sk24iam's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,570
Mine are still squeeling.
Old Apr 25, 2004 | 01:30 PM
  #22  
formz
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
You guys have to bust out your chiltons or whatever the manual you own is, and actually READ on how to MEASURE how much to tighten the belts. You can't just be like "oh I turned the tensioner 4 turns." SO what? What does 4 turns mean? NOTHING. Get a ruler, and measure how much they stretch and see if they're within spec.
Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:24 PM
  #23  
n2oMike's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 408
Be aware that the pulley the top tensioner is connected to is locked in place by a 14mm bolt in its center. If you simply try and crank the tensioner without breaking this bolt loose, you will break the tensioner.

1. Loosen 14mm pulley bolt. (the one in the center of the pulley)
2. Turn adjuster clockwise to increase belt tension. (a manual will describe how tight it needs to be.
3. Re-tighten pulley bolt.

The lower tensioner is probably for the other belt. (the Maxima has two belts)

I changed my belts at around 70-80k miles. It was sort of a PITA as far as belt changes go...

Good Luck!
Old Apr 25, 2004 | 06:12 PM
  #24  
maxspeed96CT's Avatar
The original VQ...
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,804
From: CT
my main tentioner has slight play in it, could it be causeing my start up squeak???
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 06:57 AM
  #25  
thekenone's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 237
belt replacement cause was quoted to me 40 for the belts and 70 for labor. so as you can imagine i changed them myself. it is a pain especially if your like me and the bolt on the pully wouldn't loosen. so for the longes i couldn't tighten the belt like it needed to be. but its all fixed now
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:43 PM
  #26  
sk24iam's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,570
What is the easiest way to loosen the bolt?
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 03:53 AM
  #27  
maxxximum90's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 129
any more thoughts?
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 04:35 AM
  #28  
thekenone's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 237
geth the right size boxed in wrech, not sure what size. spray with some pb blaster (wd40 liquid wrench ect.) just to make sure you don't strip it. my dumb self tried using a size that was close but the nut is too tight and it striped. loosen the nut. only loosen it. don't take the nut off or unscrew it too far. do about 2 full turns and check if the pulley will move.then remove the belt and replace. then adjust the belt down and then retighten the bolt on the pulley
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:12 AM
  #29  
maxxximum90's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 129
i was the one that was completely missing the belt tensioner. I bought the part (bolt) and they gave me a wave washer? with it. Should i just turn it on the bolt and see if my belts still squeel??? Or should i just turn it on and do what you said above??
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 12:23 PM
  #30  
sk24iam's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,570
The bolt is the one right under the tensioner right? How do you loosen it? Theres not enoguh room to fit a socket wrench in there. What did you use?
Old May 1, 2004 | 05:36 AM
  #31  
sk24iam's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,570
Anyone know how to get thisbolt loose?
Old May 1, 2004 | 06:41 AM
  #32  
twiggy144's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 741
From: Montreal
I did it. Remove the wheel. Remove 4 screws retaining the inner wheel well plastic splash guard. Remove this splash guard. Voilą! you have clear access to the bolt with a socket.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
05' MaximaMan
6th Generation Maxima (2004-2008)
2
Oct 8, 2017 06:36 PM
markevans999
3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994)
8
Oct 25, 2015 08:27 AM
homewrecker
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
2
Sep 24, 2015 07:01 PM
2kmaximel
5th Generation Classifieds (2000-2003)
0
Sep 24, 2015 03:55 PM
bennuss
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
0
Sep 11, 2015 05:55 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:38 AM.