both are auto....who wins? my friend just picked up a 2000 v6 camaro and he wants some of my 97 GLE which is stock....can i take him....i know i can race an auto better than him so if it is close enough that the better driver wins i can do it but i dont know what his car can do in comparison to mine

 

When you say you can race an auto better than him what actually do you mean? Do you use your hands to push the gas and steer with your feet? What?

 

V6 Camaro is sadly too much for you. I will take you off the line and it will be ovedr from there. GM DID NOT mess up on this 3.8L Badboy. Sorry don't any **** to your friend because the maxima cannot keep up.

 

exactly. We're talking a RWD beast vs a FWD sports sedan. Maybe on the highway you can give it a little more competition but you still cant keep up to it. Off the line, its going to be embarrassing . But dont feel bad, they are in two different leagues of cars.

 

him: 3.8L = 200hp + 225 ft/lbs tq
you: 3.0L = 190hp + 205 ft/lbs tq

Also, since he is rwd, he'll have less drivetrain loss.
If you put a bit of work in your car (intake + ypipe + catback) it'd be a good race.

But why the frap are you racing with a stock crapomatica anyway? Sounds like a giant ****ing contest to me, and stock vs stock, his **** extends further out...

 

Why not race it stock if he wants too? I raced mine when it was stock, at the track and on the street and didn't get beaten unless the car was boosted or had a good driver in a 5 speed. Even when I raced 5 speeds and loss, I stayed close with them.

Blazin: Race your buddy and make sure that you remove some dead weight. It'll be close.

 

just a quick question, and some comments. You all are comparing Hp and torque, what about the actual weight and inertia of the cars?

 

The camaro weighs more than a maxima. if you do some work to your car then you would take him. and auto is not for racing. for example, i took my bro 2k max with vq35 yesterday and ran up to a v6 mustang. i know the guy and he thinks his mustang is the best. he says that it is a men's car and tham the maxima is nothing compared to it. he took me off the line but after i burned out in second gear, i pulled on him so fast and by 5th gear he was gone. and my bro maxima is stock. i took v6 camoro on the street with just a 2k engine swap and my car is a auto. well, engine swap actually give you performnce.lol.

 

It might be alot closer then you guys think. The camaro does weight 300 pounds more than the max.

 

well i have kept up with a z28 about a car length to a car and a half up to i believe 70mph until the next red light. we raced off the line.
he was really impressed, rolled down the window and said, what do i have under the hood. of course nothing except for intake ypipe, catback, etc. common stuff.
then he tought i was lying.
this was 5spd vs 5spd.
so technically, our cars are not that bad.,

 

well im gonna go with him anyway...i took out everything i could...ive jumped other v6 camaros off the line but never got the chance to go all out...im just gonna pray for a miracle to win but i doubt it after hearing all that....its so frusturating losing to a 6 cyl. american car aahhhh

 

..................*****

 

well, C&D tested a manual V6 Camaro in 99 and it ran 7.7/16.1. looks like a well maintained auto should be able to make it a good race.

 

can i seriously not hit high 15s? i thought that if an auto was driven right it could pull a high 15...and i know my friend cant drive as well as a car and driver tester

 

i would call this one close. you guys have too much respect for the camaro... its a hulking, heavy ****. give it a v8 and its fast, but give it a v6, and its about the same as a maxima.

a stock maxima should run high 15s.... and c&d testers are journalists, not pro drivers...

 

a v6 camaro is soooooooooo weak, i beat a 96 5spd with my stock 95 5spd. it feels fast when i drove in it (my friends) after but it really is pityfull to get beaten by my grocery getter. its funny cause he had chamelion paint, and z28 or z whatever stickers on it, even the exhaust tips that the v8 had on it. the only thing he could say is ill show you when i do my engine swap

 

those numbers are pathetic. a manual v6 running 7.7/16.1. pathetic. it is defintly the weight.v6 musatng and camaros are only for show.

 

ive toasted a 5 speed v6 camaro with my buddy with me. but i have a 2k2.

 

Auto vs. Auto stock for stock he will get you.

Dont mess with too many domestic rwd cars, they have LOTS of tq downlow and the rwd only adds to it. It is true that when you mod a Maxima it can keep up to most, but just remember you can do ALOT more to domestics, so mod for mod there shouldnt be a contest. You can take a Z28 and make it run 13s for cheap.

 

I took at 2000 v6 with my 5spd back when i only had intake. Pretty good race, very close. Yea you would lose with a stock GLE

 

You'll do better from a roll. He'll get you off the line and it'll stay that way throughout the majority of the race. I've raced 2, but I have a Y-pipe. They were roll races, he had a catback. I ever so slowly pulled from 40 and pulled alot more when his car went into 3rd at about 85-ish mph (Probably a total of 1-1 1/2 car lengths)

 

RWD has MORE drivetrain loss. Typically, the fewer drivetrain components, the less drivetrain loss.
And who calls a v6 camaro a beast? It's a joke, an insult to the fbods. Heck, pretty much any n/a v6 has limited potential. It'll still probably take you though, if you go from a stop. RWD is better launches off the line. And it may keep that lead, since the non mevi 4th gen has it's top end drop off after 5500 rpm or so.

z28/ss camaros deserve respect. Ls1's are running high 12's, mid 13's bone stock, make around 350 bhp. Mods are dirt cheap too.

 

Thank You....was waiting for someone to jump on that "beast" comment...Z28=Beast V6=***** ...whether i loose to it or not

 

Don't mess with them! They're pretty quick. But my VQ35 will take care of him easily.

 

Won't he have MORE drivetrain loss BECAUSE he is RWD? The power from the engine has to travel further to get to the rear wheels than it does on a FWD car, or something like that.

 

I CALL BS ONCE AGAIN ON CHICKAN

fwd cars generaly have less drivetrain loss than rwd, chicken why didnt you listen to me and just go home?, you are an idiot.

 

*** a camaro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

doesnt it have the exact same engine as the grand prix?

those are slow,

 

this whole thread belongs in the 1/4 mile forum. promoting street racing is so rice.

 

camaro RS = camaro Really Slow
camaro SS = camaro Super Slow

 

Yeah, it should be moved to the 1/4 mile forum where street racing is forbidden and "who will win" threads are looked down upon.

But anyways... Race and find out... Nothing against the original poster, but it's such a waste to ask these questions. None of the responses are going to be any more usefull in helping you win than every other me vs. him thread. It's all the same, "take out the spare, run with a 1/4 tank of gas, deflate your front tires a little bit, brake torque the car if you're running from a stop, etc." I'ts easy enough to do a little research on the web about what the car in question will run in the 1/4, then take a look in our own 1/4 mile section and find out what guys with auto's are getting, compare the two and you'll have an answer.

 

hmmmm i know the max is the underdog against that 3.8 mini van engine but i would love to see the MULLET MACHINE get cut haha it will be close.

 

I used to race a auto v6 stang in my 96 auto, close race.....I could win he could win, that was b4 i changed my KS. Hell I can beat Mustang GTs on the track in both auto and 5 speed maxes. I know its not a camaro though. I do belive you could beat him, soley because its a v6, auto POS.

And what does rwd have to do with launching? Its still 2 wheels so I dont see how it will get a jump.

 

bull. mustang gts will kill a maxima.

lol. "v6 auto pos". his car is v6 auto as well.

if you understand high school physics you will understand why rwd cars launch better. as you accelerate, weight is transferred to the rear tires, and for obvious reasons, rwd is better in that situation.

 

This thread is really great...

 

camaro ss are quick but he only reason for that is the vette engine is in them

 

I say race this bytch, just to see where you are in performance with your car.

 

I hate v6 camaros and v6 mustangs!!!! WHY EVEN MAKE IT? so idiots can think they have a muscle car when in fact they have an engine thats in EVERY car GM sells!?!? Minivans, all buicks, grand prix too many GM cars have the same crappy 3.8 ohv engine.....................

 

Wow, I was joking. SOme of yall are serious. SAD!

 

Yeah.. I love it, i'm learning so much!

 

yup you are learning how crappy american v6 are. they will never compare to the best v6 that we have in our maximas. vq power all the way.