Is this possible?? My friend just did this on his '98 GSX and I am wondering if this is possible for us?? Also any feedback on the pros/cons of doing this would be great. I am under the impression that this might be a nice feature for starting you car in the morning and let it run for a minute or so to warm it up. By not using the clutch to start in neutral, I would think it would be less stress on the T/O bearing and less wear on the clutch itself. Any help/opinions are welcome.

-Nick

 

im very sure its do-able, i mean you can buy remote starts for or cars, and that doesnt use the clutch. if anything it should be a simple, or not so simple, rewire.

 

I'll post just to get this thing moving along....(and bump up my post count)

But this would be great...maybe hook up some sort of button you can push to override the clutch switch. I know of some Toyota 5 speeds that have this.

 

Did you try it?

Most cars these days have a switch that completes the starter circuit when you depress the clutch, so you can't start the car accidentally with it in gear and the clutch not disengaged.

My car, on the other hand, has no such switch since it started life as an automatic. But I grew up in an earlier era when cars with standard transmissions didn't have such safety devices, so I have no problem either depressing the clutch or making sure the tranny is in neutral when I start the engine.

 

clutch switch behind the clutch pedal. i beleive it grounds when clutch is depresed.

 

Just like everyone is saying there is button that when depressed triggers the starter behind the clutch, if you could some how get a relay to replace that button you could probably have it start without depressing the clutch.

 

Great feedback guys. Any more info on this "switch"? Where its located what it looks like? Is it possible to diconnect? With my friends Eclipse all you had to do was diconnect it and you were good to go. More feedback would be awesome.
BTW: I had this "feature" in my old 83 Rx-7 and thought I would like this for my Max.

Thanks guys,

-Nick

 

It's not a switch, it's a button that is located on the upper inside of the clutch. I haven't tried to disconnect it or anything. But i know that you can unplug it. I'm pretty sure that you can disconnect it and use some sort of device to control it. If i'm wrong, some electrical engineer chime in here.

 

It's not a switch, it's a button that is located on the upper inside of the clutch. I haven't tried to disconnect it or anything. But i know that you can unplug it. I'm pretty sure that you can disconnect it and use some sort of device to control it. If i'm wrong, some electrical engineer chime in here.

 

You can unplug the switch, but short the contacts together. It allows a solinoid to contact in the starter circuit. The only problem I can think of is turning the extra mass of the clutch etc. If you have cruise control, it won't set this way.

 

bump anyone else have any input on this?

-Nick

 

I don't think not using the clutch pedal save wear significantly at all. If you are thinking about a remote start, just be aware that some serious injuries have resulted from remote starting with manual cars parked in gear. Most installers won't install remote starters on a manual.

 

i dont need to push the clutch in to start my car. when i had my remote starter put in, they disable that button.

 

just so you guys know this, there are remote starters, made specificaly for manual car (cost more).
what it does, rather what you have to do is, every time you shut your car off (eg. At night), you have to put the car in neutral and pull the hand break 3X.
That tells the remote starter system, that your car is in neutral and that it will be safe to start the car with the remote control.
BTW it is safer but it is a pain in the buttt to do this every time you leave your car.

edit: just ask your local shop (that sells remote starter)

 

i had remote start with my previous accord that i had for almost 3 yrs & it was standard, started like 5 times while in gear, 1 time hit a parked car at work that was about 50 feet away,i hit in reverse, no damage to her bumper she didnt care, thank god i my car was low, 2nd time hit another car that was parked in front of me at work, they never found out, it was a hooptie & it moved about 20 feet out of its parking spot, they must have wondered when they left work, cause there was no damage to their car, 2 times i think, with valet, didnt hit anything, thank god, 5th time , my car was at muffler place getting new muffler , finished the job, then mechanic parked car in front & came in, i was counting $$$ when the guy started playing with my remote & started the car, he didnt even have the emergency brake on like in 1st 4 incidents, so the car when flying & hit a curb that was about 5" off the ground & the car got stuck, had to get 2 jacks & wheel it out, lucky me i was sending car to body shop next week, so i didnt have to pay for muffler job, it was like $220, & body guy didnt really charge me too much more cause of damage...., Dont forget to take car out of gear...... actually there was a 6th time, i remote started the car when i was selling it , left it running not in gear, but the guy gave the $$$ for the car & was going to take it home, well he forgot to about to put the keys in the ing & car cut off & steering wheel locked up & he came within inches of a parked car....... ***dont leave car in gear***

 

There's a little two-plug wiring harness that connects to the switch on the clutch. Simply cut a small piece of wire and connect the two slots on the harness.

As for whether or not its a good idea... that depends on your habits. I have a remote started but I NEVER leave the car in gear, so it's not really a problem. In the rare event I'm on a big hill or something and I do leave it in gear, I just have to be smart enough not to remote start it. No biggie.

If you want to be absolutely sure you can wire in a relay to the Neutral/Park switch that comes out of the transmission and goes to the ECU. It's pin #22 on the 95-98 and #27 on the 99. That way it won't start unless its in neutral.

 

i dont know what your taking about having to pull the hand brake 3 times.


as for hte car driving away byitself, lol that happened to someone i know. he got hella drunk and forgot he left it in gear, started the car and it drove off a small cliff into a big ditch

 

Regarding the right way to wire a remote start in a manual transmission car, see this very informative post from this thread.

 

Im not looking to install a remote starter but rather make my car be able to start in neutral. I looked at the clutch and found two wire harness that had a little button that would be pushed in when the clutch is depressed and the other harness(button) was pushed in when the clutch was fully depressed. Are these the wire harnesses I need? Are these the harnesses I need to wire up?

-Nick

-Nick

 

If you put a small piece of wire in between the two "slots" on that harness, the car will always think the clutch is in. You definitely won't need to push the clutch in anymore when starting the car, but it sounds like there's some other side-effects with the cruise control as well. Also if you're used to leaving the car in gear sometimes or others may drive your car, spend the extra few minutes to hook it up the right way to be safe. The post Masaccio posted a link to has all the instuctions on how to do it.