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Old 05-12-2004, 07:06 PM
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Do our cars "need" the EGR system to run?

I'm on the road to putting a DE-k into my '96 and I was wondering, speaking totally hypothetical of course , if I removed the EGR system, would it hurt performance at all? I am mostly concerned that the computer will start doing screwy stuff (go into some sort of safe mode) if it doesn't "see" the EGR sensors and valves and what not. Anyone know for sure?
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:32 PM
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Hypotheticaly speaking of course, it wont hurt your performance, as this is an emissions device that just recurculates exhaust to control NoX. computer wise I dont know how are cars would react. I have seen some american cars that ran fine and some that ran like shiat. oh and what is a DE-K?
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DE-k is the 222 hp VQ that's in the '00-'01 maximas. I'm going to try and use my regular DE lower intake manifold with the MEVI on that until I can get the '00 VI operational.

Guess I'll just hav to try the EGR thing and see what happens. I can always put it back on I guess.
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:43 PM
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ohh I knew about the de I just never saw the K i guess are you almost done with the swap? (engine in the car at least) I am courious to see how this is done as I am growing ever closer to replacing my old engine in my 96.
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The engine is still on a stand in my shop. I'llprobably be tearing into everything in the next couple of weeks.
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:08 PM
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The EGR is an emissions device, but I don't think it really affect WOT performance. However, I see your problem with trying to fit incorrect model year equipment. I'd think you could make it work without the equipment if you used the correct resistors. Is there a guy at you diesel shop familiar with electrical stuff?

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I'm the only one in the shop. I absolutely hate electrical stuff. Guess I'm gonna have to get over that though. Resistors would probably work good. Just gotta get the proper readings for whatever sensor I don't have hooked up and try to fake it.

I've got the upper and lower manifolds off the new motor. At this point I just have to decide when to put my car out of commission. First race is on the 5th of June so I don't want to screw up and miss it.
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My Toyota truck ran better without it.
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Old 05-13-2004, 06:55 AM
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I took it off this morning to see what it all entailed. Two 12mm bolts attach it to the block then the pipe going to the header. Pretty simple. So I'm going to try it off first and see how it goes.
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Old 05-13-2004, 08:10 AM
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I'm in a similar situation, except that I'm trying to get a 96 ECU to work in my 99. I'm planning on ditching all the EGR crap as well. Here is some info I got from another member. I haven't tried it yet because I'm still tackling the immobilizer system.
As for the EGR + evap that is alittle more complicated. For the EGRC soleniod you should probably put a 30ohm resistor on pin#103, hopefully that will work. Now the EVAP purge control soleniod add a 30ohm resistor to pin#114, also add 2 30ohm resistors to pin#110 and pin#118. Although I'm not quite sure but I believe this might stop the cel.
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Old 05-13-2004, 10:14 AM
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What an interesting thread.
Good read.
Good post.
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Old 05-13-2004, 10:27 AM
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The hardest part is to trick the ECU thinking everything is there.
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Old 05-13-2004, 11:35 AM
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That's interesting. I didn't think it served any other purpose than to lower emissions. I always thought it would be beneficial if hot exhaust wasn't being injected into the intake tract.

I'm still not sure if everything is going to cross between the two motor. Another thing is, when I change over to the '00 VI, I'll have to change to the '00 EGR because they are quite a bit different. I think there's going to be quite a few days with these two motors side by side, trying different configurations.
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When a friend got a header for his sr20 the EGR tube was the wrong size. His mech said it was bad to not have it hooked up because of detonation. So the EGR helps with detonation, abd we all know detonation is bad. My guess is if you run high (enough) octaine fuel and have a working knock sensor you will be a okay.
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