Installed WSP SS Y-Pipe!
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Yeah, I know I said I'll wait until the weekend to do it, but class was cancelled today. So, I had some time on my hands. I had the y-pipe installed by a local tuner shop. I didn't have the tools to do it myself. Anyway, the fitting was pretty good. My car is pretty loud now, maybe have to do with the new y-pipe in addition to my universal exhaust. I noticed a groaning/droning kind of sound, especially under 2k rpms. I haven't had the chance to really push it to see what this new y-pipe can do. Also, when I step on the gas, the groaning noise seem to die down, but I hear this new sound, it's almost like something is leaking. Maybe that's how it suppose to sound because I don't think anything is leaking. The sound is kind of loud, but annoyingly loud. There's also this smell and dark smoke coming out of my exhaust when I first rev up the gas after the install. I read that is normal, and it will go away. There is still some smell to it, but I'm sure that will go away later on. Like I said, it is kind of loud, especially if you have non stock exhaust. I'm not sure the groaning/droning is normal or not. I'm not sure if the groaning will get annoying. After installing the y-pipe, I headed off to Burger King to grab something to eat. As I passed these parked cars on my way to the drive-through, I set off someone's alarm.
Even with my universal exhaust, I never did that before. As far as the performance goes, I do notice more pick-up speed. I can't really tell how much difference this y-pipe will make because I just got it installed after all.
Those of you who were in the group deal along with me, please post here on what you think of the WSP SS y-pipe when you get it installed. I would like to know what others have to say about their new y-pipe.
Even with my universal exhaust, I never did that before. As far as the performance goes, I do notice more pick-up speed. I can't really tell how much difference this y-pipe will make because I just got it installed after all. Those of you who were in the group deal along with me, please post here on what you think of the WSP SS y-pipe when you get it installed. I would like to know what others have to say about their new y-pipe.
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Btw, anyone know do I have to disconnect my battery to reset the ECU? I didn't do that yet. The MIL light didn't go on, so do I still have to disconnect the battery and for how long? And what kind of gain/advantage will doing this bring? Thanks!
ECU?
Look up BrianV's page, He has great intructions on how to reset the ECU. I do know the link but it is here somewhere. Disconnecting the battery does not work. The ECU is to the right of the gas pedal. It is covered by a plastic cover that pulls right off. Dont worry it will snap back on. On the ECU you will see a screw covered by a piece of clear tape. Peel back the tape, put your your key in the ignition, turn the ignition to the accessory position, do not start the car, gently turn the screw all the way to the right (clockwise) until it stop, wait 5 seconds, and turn it all the way back to the left (counterclockwise). Turn off the accessories, and this turn the key to start the car. If you want more detail consult BrianV's website.
Is the sound of your new ypipe uncomfortable inside the car. I want to get in on the deal, but am concerned about the interior noise. I have a Greddy Catback which sounds great.
thanks
Is the sound of your new ypipe uncomfortable inside the car. I want to get in on the deal, but am concerned about the interior noise. I have a Greddy Catback which sounds great.
thanks
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Well, I know how to reset the ECU, my question is just that do I need to. After my CAI got installed, I had to reset the ECU. I just don't know if I need to do that with my y-pipe.
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As far as the noise, lower rpms, the droning does tend to be kind of loud. In higher rpms, the sound gets louder from the combination of the CAI and the y-pipe, but it's not that too loud. I can bare the noise...for now.
got mine today and am putting it on right now; the front two flanges lined up perfect; can anyone tell me if i'm to reinstall the oem bracket which was on the cat; i'm also installing an R/T cat; or does this bracket go away
WSP SS pipe
I ordered one today and spoke with Dallas on the phone (nice guy). He said you dod need to reset the ECU to get the proper gains. You ALSO need to drive 1-200 miles thereafter to have the computer relearn the exhaust flow rats to reach optimal gains. Just repeating what Dallas at Warpspeed said. I figure these guys dyno tested the pipes several ways to gain this knowledge...
In addition...
To what 98sterlingmist said, i reset my ECU this afternoon and you need to repeat the process of turning the ECU screw twice. I did the "do not start the car, gently turn the screw all the way to the right (clockwise) until it stop, wait 5 seconds, and turn it all the way back to the left (counterclockwise)" once and my check engine light didnt go off. But when I did the process once and repeated it in succession, the light went off.
I know you said that your MIL light didnt go on, but im not sure if what I did was in effect resetting the ECU or just the Check engine light.
I know you said that your MIL light didnt go on, but im not sure if what I did was in effect resetting the ECU or just the Check engine light.
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Originally posted by plrod Black 95 SE
got mine today and am putting it on right now; the front two flanges lined up perfect; can anyone tell me if i'm to reinstall the oem bracket which was on the cat; i'm also installing an R/T cat; or does this bracket go away
got mine today and am putting it on right now; the front two flanges lined up perfect; can anyone tell me if i'm to reinstall the oem bracket which was on the cat; i'm also installing an R/T cat; or does this bracket go away
Are you talking about the door hindge looking bracket? I took a look at my oem pipe that I have in my storage now, and saw a door hindge looking bracket. The shop gave that back to me, so I guess you don't need it.
y-pipe install
One thing that Dallas and I have learned about the y-pipe's is that they tend to quiet down quite a bit after several hundred miles. One guy returned his pipe after having it on his car for only one hour!!! Getting a burning smell is not unusal with new pipes and that will go away in a day or so. We are happy that you had a fairly easy install. BTW how did the box hold up? We are not using UPS anymore because it seems they are very rough with the shipping.Please keep us posted.
Dan WSP
Dan WSP
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Re: y-pipe install
Originally posted by Dan 93 SE
One thing that Dallas and I have learned about the y-pipe's is that they tend to quiet down quite a bit after several hundred miles. One guy returned his pipe after having it on his car for only one hour!!! Getting a burning smell is not unusal with new pipes and that will go away in a day or so. We are happy that you had a fairly easy install. BTW how did the box hold up? We are not using UPS anymore because it seems they are very rough with the shipping.Please keep us posted.
Dan WSP
One thing that Dallas and I have learned about the y-pipe's is that they tend to quiet down quite a bit after several hundred miles. One guy returned his pipe after having it on his car for only one hour!!! Getting a burning smell is not unusal with new pipes and that will go away in a day or so. We are happy that you had a fairly easy install. BTW how did the box hold up? We are not using UPS anymore because it seems they are very rough with the shipping.Please keep us posted.
Dan WSP
Can't believe that guy returned the pipe after one hour. Don't worry, I'm happy with this purchase. Quiet down after several hundred miles? Wow, I better start driving.
Originally posted by Cumalot
Costed me $75. Ouch! I could probably save some money if I get a few friends to help, but I just couldn't wait. Oh well. No matter.
Costed me $75. Ouch! I could probably save some money if I get a few friends to help, but I just couldn't wait. Oh well. No matter.
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Originally posted by sinewave
And I just got a brand-new floor jack and an air compressor with 100' of hose, a 1/2" impact wrench and 3/8" air ratchet! We could have done it with the A/T cooler this weekend.
And I just got a brand-new floor jack and an air compressor with 100' of hose, a 1/2" impact wrench and 3/8" air ratchet! We could have done it with the A/T cooler this weekend.
Originally posted by Cumalot
Are you talking about the door hinge looking bracket? I took a look at my oem pipe that I have in my storage now, and saw a door hindge looking bracket. The shop gave that back to me, so I guess you don't need it.
Are you talking about the door hinge looking bracket? I took a look at my oem pipe that I have in my storage now, and saw a door hindge looking bracket. The shop gave that back to me, so I guess you don't need it.
Dan, do you know the one I'm referring to? On the OEM setup there is a ground wire on the driver side bolt which attaches to the car.
Got mine Y-pipe yeaterday. The box was in perfect condition. I took pictures and posted them on the general maxima thread.
I'll be installing the pipe this weekend with the help of a friend. If you notice their is some type of liquid or grease on the pipe, I figure that's whats causing the burning smell. It should go away once everything is burned off the pipe.
I can't wait, I'll also have pictures of the install.
I'll be installing the pipe this weekend with the help of a friend. If you notice their is some type of liquid or grease on the pipe, I figure that's whats causing the burning smell. It should go away once everything is burned off the pipe.
I can't wait, I'll also have pictures of the install.
Give it some time...
I got my Warpspeed pipe back in Feb.
YES -- It DOES get quieter after about a week.
YES -- Smell goes away after about an hour or so of constant driving.
YES -- You still retain the bracket between the y-pipe and cat. I have a 95 and had to bend this bracket on the driver's side so it wouldn't hit the underside of the car. No big deal, a pair of pliers and a couple of minutes.
I did disconnect the battery for 30 minutes to let the ECU reset, but don't think this was absolutely necessary because I noticed performance gains leaving the 'stop' sign in my neighborhood. The steering got light and there was lots of 'new' torque steer compared to before all conditions the same. G-tech confirmed this too.
I have stock cat-back exhaust and like my car as quiet as possible. I initially had a WOLF Pop Charger intake and it was louder than the Y-Pipe, but you could still hear the y-pipe. Now I have a CAI and have wrapped my pipe's flex section with header wrap. These two things REALLY made my car quiet! Sounds stock when daily driven. NO wailing banshee when racing. That's just how I like it!
Bottom Line: BEST MOD I'VE INSTALLED SO FAR!
YES -- It DOES get quieter after about a week.
YES -- Smell goes away after about an hour or so of constant driving.
YES -- You still retain the bracket between the y-pipe and cat. I have a 95 and had to bend this bracket on the driver's side so it wouldn't hit the underside of the car. No big deal, a pair of pliers and a couple of minutes.
I did disconnect the battery for 30 minutes to let the ECU reset, but don't think this was absolutely necessary because I noticed performance gains leaving the 'stop' sign in my neighborhood. The steering got light and there was lots of 'new' torque steer compared to before all conditions the same. G-tech confirmed this too.
I have stock cat-back exhaust and like my car as quiet as possible. I initially had a WOLF Pop Charger intake and it was louder than the Y-Pipe, but you could still hear the y-pipe. Now I have a CAI and have wrapped my pipe's flex section with header wrap. These two things REALLY made my car quiet! Sounds stock when daily driven. NO wailing banshee when racing. That's just how I like it!
Bottom Line: BEST MOD I'VE INSTALLED SO FAR!
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Re: Give it some time...
The description bigtexan7 gave is right on the money. The feel that I got is how bigtexan7 described; the increased torque steer, for example. I reset the ECU unit, but I didn't disconnect the battery. I don't know if I should disconnect the battery too.
**I have a 95 and had to bend this bracket on the driver's side so it wouldn't hit the underside of the car. No big deal, a pair of pliers and a couple of minutes.**
The tuner shop where I got my y-pipe installed also had to bend the bracker a little so that it won't bang against the underside of the car.
**I have a 95 and had to bend this bracket on the driver's side so it wouldn't hit the underside of the car. No big deal, a pair of pliers and a couple of minutes.**
The tuner shop where I got my y-pipe installed also had to bend the bracker a little so that it won't bang against the underside of the car.
Dallas at Warpspeed said you can wash the pipe with warm water and soap (before installation) so you don;t get the smell after installation. It is from the lubricant they apply to the metal prior to mandrel neding the pipe. Mine is in the mail...YIPPIE!
don't use soap
Originally posted by kratz74
Dallas at Warpspeed said you can wash the pipe with warm water and soap (before installation) so you don;t get the smell after installation. It is from the lubricant they apply to the metal prior to mandrel neding the pipe. Mine is in the mail...YIPPIE!
Dallas at Warpspeed said you can wash the pipe with warm water and soap (before installation) so you don;t get the smell after installation. It is from the lubricant they apply to the metal prior to mandrel neding the pipe. Mine is in the mail...YIPPIE!
Pedro....I think we got you figured out on the rubber bushings. As I mentioned to you when we were talking a little earlier tonight if you loosen the flange bolts there is some play in the flange holes, there will be enough to slide the pipe over a little. We use a jig to weld them and the flanges are placed over studs which are just slightly smaller than the holes, that is why they slip right on.
Dallas
I've had my WSP Stainless ypipe for over a month now, definetely the best bolt on product I've bought. I notice a lot more power when speeding past 60 mph. I'm running a a WSP cat, courtesy b-pipe and stock OEM muffler. It's a little louder just after start up then quiets down ( I think because the engine warms up and computer kicks in) No problems with fit at all. Went to a local shop who did some other Y pipes, he said this one fit the best. As far as looks, not show quality, decent looking weld joints and no leaks.
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