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Old 06-10-2004 | 01:04 PM
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$3000+ to spend

Well, I finally found a better job, and now ill have alot of extra cash to spend over the summer. I plan on using the CC to make my purchases so I can install everything right away. This is what I have on the list so far:

1) Passport x50 (already purchased)
2) 35% Tint (needed)
3) MEVI
4) Cattman Headers
5) Front 02 Sensor
6) 2.5" Test pipe w/ resonator
7) CAI (of somesort)
8) Stage II VB Mod

But then I have roughly $500+ leftover, so im thinking Smoked cefiros and 2k2 HIDs.

Reason why im getting the headers is for the sound, more topend (awesome paired up with the MEVI), and i have a leak in my ypipe where the 02 goes in on the first collector, so im losing alot of low end and it sounds bad. I know im a 99, but I want more top end, i do alot of highway driving. CAI will help bring back some low end, and the headers will too (no more leak). VB mod will help with daily driving, and im getting a new tranny from nissan this month anyways (warranty), got the tranny cooler too. Ive got maxspeeds and GR-2s in my garage, so suspension is taken care of.

Now what to do with the rest? Ill have about 500-700 or so left to spend, im thinking cefiros and HIDs, any other ideas?

Basically, i know i could spend $3000 on a supercharger or Nitrous, but my car is daily driven and takes alot of road trips to the track, so I need practical mods. Most of those are needed, and it will still be much quicker than it is right now, plus it will sounds a whole lot better. CAI and getting rid of the leak will help counteract the low end loss from the MEVI, plus i have a HAI (just a cone filter) right now and already deal with the lag.
Old 06-10-2004 | 01:07 PM
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One word: SUPERCHARGER, unless of course you are like me and want to have an all motor maxima. Then I would say your list is perfect except for the test pipe, by which I think you mean Bpipe, cause you say you want a resonator.

Dont forget about installation cost, unless you are doing it yourself.
Old 06-10-2004 | 01:12 PM
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yeah supercharger would be nice but retarded unless he races it. i say uhh, get nething uve ever wanted...maybe pop in a DVD player if u dont have one...hmm, new wheels if u dont have ne, uh...HIDs is a must since u got the money. Paint job? haha, im just throwing stuff out
Old 06-10-2004 | 01:21 PM
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My Max is a daily driver and its supercharged. Installed October 2000. If you have any questions you're welcome to pm me.

Old 06-10-2004 | 01:22 PM
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Old 06-10-2004 | 01:23 PM
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The list is killa: love the fact that you are getting the MEVI and headers. I'm friggen jealous...

Anyways, with the rest of the money, if you do go the hid route. Be prepared to spend that extra 300 for projectors. I cannot stress enough our headlights are not made to take aftermarket or any kind of hids.
Old 06-10-2004 | 01:27 PM
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GIVE IT TO ME !
Old 06-10-2004 | 01:41 PM
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maybe wait for that piggyback ecu to come out so u can really take advantage of that MEVI
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5-speed conversion. You should still have over $1500 left.
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Old 06-10-2004 | 02:11 PM
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Supercharger
The "supercharger" suggestions make absolutely NO sense. Think about it. The SC'er itself is gonna cost damn near $3000. That leaves him with less than $500 to:

1. Get guages
2. Get S-AFC
3. Dyno tune
4. Upgrade the tranny

Just convert to 5-speed and go from there. <--The best bang-for-buck perfomance upgrade other than SC'er and nitrous.
Old 06-10-2004 | 02:25 PM
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The thread title says $3000+

I thought the "+" means plus.
Anyways you should budget for $4000+ instead.

Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96
The "supercharger" suggestions make absolutely NO sense. Think about it. The SC'er itself is gonna cost damn near $3000. That leaves him with less than $500 to:

1. Get guages
2. Get S-AFC
3. Dyno tune
4. Upgrade the tranny

Just convert to 5-speed and go from there. <--The best bang-for-buck perfomance upgrade other than SC'er and nitrous.
Old 06-10-2004 | 02:38 PM
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Dude, as a fellow SE-Ler, I would say go for the Supercharger. The reasons:
1. you cannot get a chip
2. Because of #1, you cannot take advantage of full benefits of MEVI
3. B-pipe is waste of money........spend $50 and get a shop to custom you some 2.5" piping with stock resonator and be done with it.
4. CAI will not get you more low end. If anything, it gives you more high end. Stock airbox has still not been disproven to give the best low end torque and overall power.
5. headers? cool, but not necessary when you could be running a lot faster with just sc.
6. With just a little more money, you could get into the 300hp range and be wondering why you ever considered the other stuff.

Recap:
1) Passport x50 (already purchased)I don't even know what this is?
2) 35% Tint (needed)Do it...looks great on the red...you need it....$150
3) MEVIskip it for reasons posted above
4) Cattman HeadersSkip out for reasons posted above
5) Front 02 SensorProbably need it.....$120??
6) 2.5" Test pipe w/ resonatorSkip out on the special one, and get a custom one for like $50....that is what I did...works and sounds great!
7) CAI (of somesort)Doesn't do poo....you can always add that later
8) Stage II VB ModI don't see a need to even really be messing with it........must focus here.

Just some advice from a logical thinker and a fellow Crimson Blaze Brother.
Old 06-10-2004 | 02:39 PM
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I would make your max able to withstand anything if you plan on modding it the ways you wanna'. I would gett wheels and tint ASAP, those two mods 100% make ANY car way better. Stereo if you like the thumps, or even gauges to help you in tuning the max! If I were you I would 100% buy the headers, MEVI, gauges, and seriously wait for the piggy-back ECU upgrade. Without the ECU you can't fully enjoy the main reasons for the MEVI....save your money too cause you WILL need to repair your car if you race your car around....I wish i would've saved more when I upgraded my ma but then again, max out the max! Damn! Its like a wish list that everyone wants but has no money to reach it. Good luck in your decision!
Old 06-10-2004 | 03:18 PM
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Ummm. Why isn't lowering your car on the TOP of the list???? It looks like a truck at the meet. Do that FIRST, and then worry about everything else.

Don't supercharge. At least in your situation. You could get a supercharger for $3000, but then youll still need guages, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Then down the road your tranny would go, your car would still ride like a 4x4, and youd be pinching pennies. Not to mention the upkeep cost and maintenence of a supercharger.

Supercharge if you can afford it, and if you cant afford to race at the track for one day, where do you think youll be after a supercharger... think about it.



Buy a decent suspension setup, springs and struts, window tint, and some decent wheels. Your car will look 10x better and youll still have money left over for a buffer.
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he has the suspension already sittin in his garage
Old 06-10-2004 | 04:57 PM
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that's alot of money to spend on a car. the car isn't everything. save it. or spend it on your LIFE.
Old 06-10-2004 | 07:48 PM
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Screw 35% tint and get 20%...it looks a million times better.

Dude I say get a bumpin sound system and some decent rims. Then worry about power mods after that.
Old 06-10-2004 | 08:17 PM
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Ok first off, I have suspension, dont worry Loren, that IS the first thing going in.

Second, reason why Im skipping a charger????

IT WILL COST MORE THAN 3 GRAND!

I thought i pointed that out already. Look at all the things I still need to get done. Also, test pipe is test pipe, not a B pipe, I already have a custom catback thats been in the car for months. Reason why I said id put a resonator in, because you can fit one there.

Also, for you saying to convert to 5speed, too much time to invest, plus it would take me time to get used to. Not to mention im already going to get a BRAND NEW tranny from nissan for free, why not beef it up right away? thats why im doing a VB mod and a tranny cooler.

Paint job, thats silly, its already a rare color. Wheels are also a no, it will cost too much for what they are worth. I like my titanium SE wheels. And Nismos, yes, I will get that Piggyback system thats coming out soon too, that will just be purchased later. Takento, I used to have HIDs, I know they suck in our stock housings, but the cefiros have a much better beam pattern, better for HIDs. And yes, MEVI and Headers will be nice.

And for the last one..... Notice how im aiming for performance??? I dont care about my stereo, I like my BOSE system. It does the job and I have no problems. Plus I dont have a bunch of weight in the back from carrying around subs. Im also going for 35% because around here cops are gay. Legal limit is 50%, 20 will get you a ticket in no time.

Thanks for the comments but I think im going as planned, I know i can get a supercharger, but I dont have any money left to beef up the tranny, get gauges, buy the electronics needed, tune it, etc. It would be pointless. I wont do the 5speed swap because its too much of a hassle. Like I said, I do alot of highway driving, so the MEVI + Headers WILL help alot. Anyways, 10+ hours of work today have made me tired, so sorry if i seem a little aggressive. I'll update you all on the route I take, but the wheels, paint job, and FI will not change no matter what.
Old 06-10-2004 | 08:27 PM
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Old 06-10-2004 | 10:21 PM
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yeah get a bunch of stickers...$3000 worth.
Old 06-11-2004 | 12:42 AM
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I say roll to Vegas and try to double it up you big baller you!!!
Old 06-11-2004 | 01:35 AM
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quick question.. would a MEVI + ECU on an auto give you the same net gain as on a manual?
Old 06-11-2004 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nostrixoxide
I say roll to Vegas and try to double it up you big baller you!!!
All on black

Skip the headers and just get jwt cause mevi wont be much use with stock rev limit and youll gain some hp
Old 06-11-2004 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by desertmaxima
All on black

Skip the headers and just get jwt cause mevi wont be much use with stock rev limit and youll gain some hp
Im a '99. JWT only makes them for 95 & 96 maximas. I thought everyone knew this?
Old 06-11-2004 | 06:26 AM
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Why do you think I said not to get the MEVI? There is no ECU upgrade available!

Supercharger: Why not save for another couple of months and then have $3500 to spend and get a supercharger. There are good kits out there to be found with everything for that.

I guess if you are not going to take the supercharger route, I would just say not to waste your money on the MEVI or the headers. I still don't think it will be that much of an add. Those two will cost you nearly $1200 and you will not really have much to show for them because you cannot chip mod.

As far as the test pipe.....sorry, you are right. I thought you were calling the b-pipe the test pipe(some people do this). All the test pipe does is replace your cat and make your more polutant for the air. There have been countless guys on here saying that they don't even see better dyno results from having a test pipe. Save that money for something else.

I am feeling ya on the tint. I can only get 35% here because that is the limit.
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I thought you were gonna do the VQ30/VQ35 hybrid?

Well anyways, don't get MEVI, try to do the VI swap from 00-01. Atleast you won't lose any low end or mid range and that will be best for you since you have no ECU upgrade.
Old 06-11-2004 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kevlo911
I thought you were gonna do the VQ30/VQ35 hybrid?

Well anyways, don't get MEVI, try to do the VI swap from 00-01. Atleast you won't lose any low end or mid range and that will be best for you since you have no ECU upgrade.
That is what I have been trying to say.

BlueC....

Thread about Test Pipes:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=281461

Check that out...
Old 06-11-2004 | 07:08 AM
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And Brudaddy is right about hte Test Pipe. Waist of money.


Also, you could retrofit some bi-xenon projectors with the left over money.
Old 06-11-2004 | 07:42 AM
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MEVI: don't get this because it won't help you without the ECU. You say you drive a lot of highway, but then go on to say the car will be going to the track. Which is it because the MEVI without the ECU will make the car no quicker and possibly fractionally slower in the 1/4 mile. From 0-60mph you'll definitely be slower. Trust me on this one.

Test pipe: waste. Don't even bother.

Headers: That's a lot of dough to be spending on a mod that has yet to show improvements in the 1/4 mile or on the dyno.

CAI: Do it. I've had every type of intake on my Maxima and I've tested them all at the track. The CAI performs just as good as the hybrid, but the CAI offers immensely better around the town driveability especially in the heat. Gone is that annoying boggy hestitation.

Everything else? That looks fine assuming you can deal with firm shifts all the time.


What would I do?

Honestly, I wouldn't be spending money I haven't made yet and I wouldn't be blowing all the extra money I would stand to make with a new job. To me it sounds like you'll be more poor with this job than the last because you anticipate liquidating you're salary increase and justifying paying interest on the debt. This is a very bad cycle to get in and it's seems to be a very common thing with younger people, cars, and money. There is more to life than just cars. I don't know how old you are, but if you're 18+ and still living at home, move out. Nothing is worse than a guy with a flashy car and still living at home with the parents.

Okay the "father" cap is off. With that money I'd get the CAI ($70-220), fix the y-pipe ($50), the tint ($250), the detector ($300), maybe the valve body ($400?) plus any maintenance related fixes (o2 sensor, etc $70-150)). Then I'd look into polyurethane endlinks/swaybar bushing ($20), good adjustable struts ($400), and most importantly Stage I and possibly Stage II SFCs ($350 installed). If the car doesn't have leather then look into the Leatherseats kit ($700). After that I'd consider lightweight rims and top quality tires. If the car spends time at the track then I'd get short tires and some take-off 15s to improve gearing.

I can understand the hestitation in purchasing the SC. My problem with the SC is it's inherent reliability problems. I don't have the time to be yanking the SC off a few times a year to fix pulley/belt/alignment problems or trouble shoot A/F, leaks, etc. With the SC it seems like the majority are always worrying what's going to happen next. I'd love to have boost, but it just doesn't seem reliable enough for me to justify it on my daily driver.


Dave
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Tint can be done for $150 with lifetime warrenty, just call around.
The Rader is in a GD for 240shipped.
VB is about $300 and he might be able to install it.
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Originally Posted by Dave B
MEVI: don't get this because it won't help you without the ECU. You say you drive a lot of highway, but then go on to say the car will be going to the track. Which is it because the MEVI without the ECU will make the car no quicker and possibly fractionally slower in the 1/4 mile. From 0-60mph you'll definitely be slower. Trust me on this one.

Test pipe: waste. Don't even bother.

Headers: That's a lot of dough to be spending on a mod that has yet to show improvements in the 1/4 mile or on the dyno.

CAI: Do it. I've had every type of intake on my Maxima and I've tested them all at the track. The CAI performs just as good as the hybrid, but the CAI offers immensely better around the town driveability especially in the heat. Gone is that annoying boggy hestitation.

Everything else? That looks fine assuming you can deal with firm shifts all the time.


What would I do?

Honestly, I wouldn't be spending money I haven't made yet and I wouldn't be blowing all the extra money I would stand to make with a new job. To me it sounds like you'll be more poor with this job than the last because you anticipate liquidating you're salary increase and justifying paying interest on the debt. This is a very bad cycle to get in and it's seems to be a very common thing with younger people, cars, and money. There is more to life than just cars. I don't know how old you are, but if you're 18+ and still living at home, move out. Nothing is worse than a guy with a flashy car and still living at home with the parents.

Okay the "father" cap is off. With that money I'd get the CAI ($70-220), fix the y-pipe ($50), the tint ($250), the detector ($300), maybe the valve body ($400?) plus any maintenance related fixes (o2 sensor, etc $70-150)). Then I'd look into polyurethane endlinks/swaybar bushing ($20), good adjustable struts ($400), and most importantly Stage I and possibly Stage II SFCs ($350 installed). If the car doesn't have leather then look into the Leatherseats kit ($700). After that I'd consider lightweight rims and top quality tires. If the car spends time at the track then I'd get short tires and some take-off 15s to improve gearing.

I can understand the hestitation in purchasing the SC. My problem with the SC is it's inherent reliability problems. I don't have the time to be yanking the SC off a few times a year to fix pulley/belt/alignment problems or trouble shoot A/F, leaks, etc. With the SC it seems like the majority are always worrying what's going to happen next. I'd love to have boost, but it just doesn't seem reliable enough for me to justify it on my daily driver.


Dave
Good advice, Dave.
Even the "fatherly" stuff. ha ha
Old 06-11-2004 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Brudaddy
Good advice, Dave.
Even the "fatherly" stuff. ha ha
I'll add my 2 cents here, even though I'm not a dad but am old enough to be one!

Join your company's group retirement savings plan and put some money away. The left over money, after expenses, you can play with.
Old 06-11-2004 | 10:04 AM
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Use the $3k as a down and buy a condo, you'd be suprised to see that even if your salary is under $20k you can qualify for a home loan. Real estate it the best investment you could make. It's better than dumping it in to a car that will (maybe) be worth $5k in a couple years.

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SR20DEN, Funny!

Since when is an auto with VB and tranny cooler a beefed auto? Hmm... You could DR for free and the tranny cooler isn't necessary. Why are brakes not up there at all? If your all about performance, performance is nothing without control.

Here's what I'd do. Err, what I am doing.

1. i30 5Spd swap w/ ACT stage 1, B&M, Stainless Braided Clutch line.
2. Slotted Rotors
3. SS Lines
4. R4-S's
5. 7500K JWT/TS ECU(Whichever is cheaper if TS has cracked the rev limit)
6. MEVI or DE-k manifold.
7. Grounding Kit(For improved sound, lighting and possible performance)
8. Components and DVD flip out head unit(I know your not into sound. Just throwing out ideas.)
9. CF trunklid
10. R/C's
11. CF hood.


Brudaddy, a front o2 is only $70 from oxygensensors.com.

billy_corgan, why you want a super so bad when you need a qualfie. Nice sig. LOL
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If you run DR mod or VB mod, it is MUCH BETTER for the transmission if you have a tranny cooler.
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Ok first off, im getting a test pipe to replace the old rusted cat. I can also fit a resonator on there so it will make my exhaust better. Im only doing it for looks and sounds. We have no emmissions up here, not illegal one bit. I can have one made for $30, why not?

As for the suggestions about the MEVI, I know i will be slower 0-60, but there are options around this. Stillen is coming out with the piggy back system, if it doesnt, I can go buy a S-AFC controller and have my car tuned to have more low end and mid end like the JWT ecu does.

HERE IS WHAT I ALREADY HAVE:

-SUSPENSION, I thought i cleared that up???
-Radar detector (ALREADY PURCHASED, got it for $230 shipped, who cares about the GD)
-Custom 2.5" catback
-Factory perforated leather
-etc

As for the 2000VI, Yes ive considered that, but I wont have the time to fool around with that, only one person has done it so far and I dont know if its 100% reliable or not. MEVI has been tested alot and works well. Understand now??

Reasons why im getting headers?

-Sounds much better
-Better flow
-More top end
-Looks 5000x better
-Creates less heat
Old 06-11-2004 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueC
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Reasons why im getting headers?

-Sounds much better
-Better flow
-More top end
-Looks 5000x better
-Creates less heat
hmmmm....spend $800 + install on something that barely changes performance and sound, or spend $1500 on some light wheels and tires that will dramatically change performance and even more so woth looks....


-Looks 5000x better.....people will rarely see them
-Creates less heat.....not enough to make any difference


I think headers are good, i plan on getting them myself, but i think wheels are a better choice right now.

but its your money
Old 06-11-2004 | 08:54 PM
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I know what you are saying loren, but I like my wheels. I havent found any affordable lightweight rims I like. Plus $1500 would take away alot from my other stuff, and it doesnt really affect performance as much. My stock 16s are already fine as far as weight. As far as how the headers look, Ill enjoy it, when I work on my car, Ill enjoy the reflection off the headers. Not some crummy old rusted piping. And If I enjoy it, thats what counts right? Im under my car several times a month, might aswell be happy on what I see. And creating less heat will help keep the engine bay air somewhat cooler, its better than nothing.
Old 06-11-2004 | 09:36 PM
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maybe wait for that piggyback ecu to come out so u can really take advantage of that MEVI
what piggyback ECU. by Who? Can we raise rev limiter?


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