What is a popcharger?
damn I just bought a K&N drop in filter, would it have been better to get the cone? Thats not all I would have had to have gotten though is it? I mean if I was going to do the BrianV mod? What else would I have to get if I did go with the cone? For BrianV's intake that is. Also does anyone know the part number for the K&N cone filter I should get? I have a 1997 GXE, my buddy has an SE would they use the same filter? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Whoa there... slow down ... too many questions at one time. Hehehe 
Ok ... the drop-in filter is okay, so is the cone filter.
If you're going to do the OSCAI, someone else will have to answer, b/c I have the JWT cone filter.
As for the part number for the K&N cone filter, I'm not sure. But see, when you order the Stillen or the JWT, it gives you all the hardware needed to put it on your car. It wouldn't do you any good just to buy the filter.
For pictures of a cone filter, go here:
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/poprest.htm
And yep, GXE, GLE, SE all use the same filter. So give/sell the drop-in to your friend and get a cone.

Ok ... the drop-in filter is okay, so is the cone filter.
If you're going to do the OSCAI, someone else will have to answer, b/c I have the JWT cone filter.
As for the part number for the K&N cone filter, I'm not sure. But see, when you order the Stillen or the JWT, it gives you all the hardware needed to put it on your car. It wouldn't do you any good just to buy the filter.
For pictures of a cone filter, go here:
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/poprest.htm
And yep, GXE, GLE, SE all use the same filter. So give/sell the drop-in to your friend and get a cone.

Originally posted by SB97MAX
damn I just bought a K&N drop in filter, would it have been better to get the cone? Thats not all I would have had to have gotten though is it? I mean if I was going to do the BrianV mod? What else would I have to get if I did go with the cone? For BrianV's intake that is. Also does anyone know the part number for the K&N cone filter I should get? I have a 1997 GXE, my buddy has an SE would they use the same filter? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
damn I just bought a K&N drop in filter, would it have been better to get the cone? Thats not all I would have had to have gotten though is it? I mean if I was going to do the BrianV mod? What else would I have to get if I did go with the cone? For BrianV's intake that is. Also does anyone know the part number for the K&N cone filter I should get? I have a 1997 GXE, my buddy has an SE would they use the same filter? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The reason why I asked about just buying the cone is because in the BrianV Intake I believe he just bought the cone and then did the rest with some other stuff that he had. Its not Stillen or JWT, thats why I was wondering about the cone. Thanks for the help, maybe ill just get the stillen or the other one though, ill check out the site. Thanks again
Drop in filter is better than stock, but not as good as a pocharger or CAI. It's restrictive. That's all there is to it. But be advised, with a popcharger, you will lose some low end and make up for it in high end. The CAI provides both high and low end, but at a greater cost. I'm sure it's worth it.
OSCAI is the "Poor Man's CAI" ... you do it yourself. And the CAI is by Place Racing.
Popchargers will run you about $120 and CAI's will run you about $200.
Popchargers will run you about $120 and CAI's will run you about $200.
Originally posted by SB97MAX
Anyone got a link for OSCAI's? What is the difference between that and just CAI? Thanks for the help! Oh and how much is the pop charger?CAI? Thanks
Anyone got a link for OSCAI's? What is the difference between that and just CAI? Thanks for the help! Oh and how much is the pop charger?CAI? Thanks
K&N vs JWT Popcharger
I use to use the k&n drop in filter and felt a little difference in power. I recently change to the JWT popcharger and noticed a real difference. My v6 is now starting to sound like a v8. I do have a greddy catback exhaust to help, but the cone intake does make a difference from my experience.
Try this one on for size --
Get the CAI upper section only -- that is the piece that would fit in between the MAF and throttle body -- The CAI upper section replaces that convoluted and ugly resonator section that is the OEM piece in that location --
Then remove the long plastic intake port that hooks up to the bottom of the OEM air box -- this is the port that runs up near the top of the radiator --
Maybe for the finishing touch, drop in a K&N panel filter --
My result -- Much better breathing and torque between 2500-3500RPMs -- Added about 1000RPMs to the lower end of the best torque band of the engine -- I'm also using a JWT ECU and cat-back exhaust --
The sound is like a muted version of the JWT/Stillen cone intakes --
The intake temperatures is probably be about as hot as with a Stillen/JWT cone intake -- But the OEM airbox "modified" as above has a much more free area in front of it to breathe -- With a cone intake on our cars, the cone is jammed up against the battery and strut tower of the frame and up close to the hood --- Not a lot of wide open space to breathe in air --
Total cost would be about $70 for the CAI-upper-section and maybe about $35 if you buy the K&N panel filter --
Of course, your car has to exhaust more efficiently before it can make best use of more intake air -- So work on the exhaust first --
Get the CAI upper section only -- that is the piece that would fit in between the MAF and throttle body -- The CAI upper section replaces that convoluted and ugly resonator section that is the OEM piece in that location --
Then remove the long plastic intake port that hooks up to the bottom of the OEM air box -- this is the port that runs up near the top of the radiator --
Maybe for the finishing touch, drop in a K&N panel filter --
My result -- Much better breathing and torque between 2500-3500RPMs -- Added about 1000RPMs to the lower end of the best torque band of the engine -- I'm also using a JWT ECU and cat-back exhaust --
The sound is like a muted version of the JWT/Stillen cone intakes --
The intake temperatures is probably be about as hot as with a Stillen/JWT cone intake -- But the OEM airbox "modified" as above has a much more free area in front of it to breathe -- With a cone intake on our cars, the cone is jammed up against the battery and strut tower of the frame and up close to the hood --- Not a lot of wide open space to breathe in air --
Total cost would be about $70 for the CAI-upper-section and maybe about $35 if you buy the K&N panel filter --
Of course, your car has to exhaust more efficiently before it can make best use of more intake air -- So work on the exhaust first --
hmmm
If you are going to go to all that trouble, why bother keeping the stock Air box?
wouldn't it be better to add to the 'upper' CAI portion the intake adaptor and a cone filter?
Would this solve the problem of the intake being jammed up against the battery?
Do you have pictures of this installation?
wouldn't it be better to add to the 'upper' CAI portion the intake adaptor and a cone filter?
Would this solve the problem of the intake being jammed up against the battery?
Do you have pictures of this installation?
Well, That is what I did at first - The CAI upper section with the CAI intake filter in the location where the stock air box is -- It is a better fit than the JWT/Stillen cones because the CAI cone is a smaller size --
But my seat-of-the-pants-dyno thinks the low end is better with the stock air box and CAI upper section tube --
When I gas it hard off the line, it accelerates with more urgency at the low RPMs -- Not a lot faster but something noticeable --
And for my own personal taste, all of the exposed air intake cones are too loud for me --
The high end seems like it is just as strong, if not a little better with the OEM box --
The fit is kinda tricky to get the OEM air box in with the CAI upper intake tube -- I had to take out the battery to slide the OEM air box in place -- no more accordian like pieces to compress downstream of the MAF -- The O-ring seal on the inlet of the MAF was a bit tricky -- keeping it from falling out while lining it all up --
Also, the top of the air box can't be opened up very high to replace the filter because there is a lot less flex with the intake tubing down to the throttle body -- I can still get a panel-air-filter in and out but its tight --
And the OEM feedback hoses that go into the intake leading from the oil-case top and from some component downstream of the throttle body -- well, they won't fit on the CAI upper section -- Because they are ultra hard and molded to an exact shape that only fits the OEM accordian box -- I had to go down to the local auto store and fit up new hoses -- I still got some clean-up to do to make the hoses look nice an neat -- The transmission dipstick is jammed up against the hose coming from the oil-case top -- but half way down the tranny dipstick tube is a bracket that bolts to a support on the engine -- a few spacer washers and a longer fastener should take care of that problem --
I wish I would have got the silver or black colored CAI upper section to look more "stealthy" --- that bright yellow piece kinda stands out a bit much for my tastes --
But my seat-of-the-pants-dyno thinks the low end is better with the stock air box and CAI upper section tube --
When I gas it hard off the line, it accelerates with more urgency at the low RPMs -- Not a lot faster but something noticeable --
And for my own personal taste, all of the exposed air intake cones are too loud for me --
The high end seems like it is just as strong, if not a little better with the OEM box --
The fit is kinda tricky to get the OEM air box in with the CAI upper intake tube -- I had to take out the battery to slide the OEM air box in place -- no more accordian like pieces to compress downstream of the MAF -- The O-ring seal on the inlet of the MAF was a bit tricky -- keeping it from falling out while lining it all up --
Also, the top of the air box can't be opened up very high to replace the filter because there is a lot less flex with the intake tubing down to the throttle body -- I can still get a panel-air-filter in and out but its tight --
And the OEM feedback hoses that go into the intake leading from the oil-case top and from some component downstream of the throttle body -- well, they won't fit on the CAI upper section -- Because they are ultra hard and molded to an exact shape that only fits the OEM accordian box -- I had to go down to the local auto store and fit up new hoses -- I still got some clean-up to do to make the hoses look nice an neat -- The transmission dipstick is jammed up against the hose coming from the oil-case top -- but half way down the tranny dipstick tube is a bracket that bolts to a support on the engine -- a few spacer washers and a longer fastener should take care of that problem --
I wish I would have got the silver or black colored CAI upper section to look more "stealthy" --- that bright yellow piece kinda stands out a bit much for my tastes --
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