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Old 10-11-2004 | 04:08 PM
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Is it really dangerous to go 145MPH on 130MPH rated tires?

Today I found a nice stretch of highway to go 145MPH in my 97 SE 5 speed. It was a slightly downhill at the end then the highway ends and comes to a T so I couldn't try to go any faster. I have V rated tires (149MPH) in the front and H rated tires in the back (130MPH) in the back. I am planning on going back soon and doing it again so I can get a picture of it because no one believes my max can go that fast. My question is should I be worried about going 145 on the H rated tires? I didn’t have any problems today and its only for a 1/2 mile or so.
Old 10-11-2004 | 04:24 PM
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if i were you, i wouldn't try going that fast if the tires says that it cant.
its just saying do not redline your car because it is not good too. if you redline it once, it wont do too much harm, but in the other hand, if you over do it.....than you get the consequence. going that fast, if your tires to blow on you, you will flip your car.
Old 10-11-2004 | 04:32 PM
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the MPH rating means that that tire will peforme at whatever speed they r rated for for 1 hour and not sacrafice performance
Old 10-11-2004 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima lover
Today I found a nice stretch of highway to go 145MPH in my 97 SE 5 speed. It was a slightly downhill at the end then the highway ends and comes to a T so I couldn't try to go any faster. I have V rated tires (149MPH) in the front and H rated tires in the back (130MPH) in the back. I am planning on going back soon and doing it again so I can get a picture of it because no one believes my max can go that fast. My question is should I be worried about going 145 on the H rated tires? I didn’t have any problems today and its only for a 1/2 mile or so.

Lemme get this straight: You want to prove how fast your car goes with a PICTURE?

Drive safe, dude. That sounds too fast, if anything went wrong you could flip around a few dozen times before coming to a stop.

But, otherwise, have fun and see ya
Old 10-11-2004 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximus_95
if i were you, i wouldn't try going that fast if the tires says that it cant.
its just saying do not redline your car because it is not good too. if you redline it once, it wont do too much harm, but in the other hand, if you over do it.....than you get the consequence. going that fast, if your tires to blow on you, you will flip your car.
What's redlining got to do with tire rating?????????? NOTHING!

MaximaSe96 is more in line with the question, just don't sustain that speed for long! There's so many variables that can go wrong at that speed.
Old 10-11-2004 | 04:54 PM
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Errrr, tires heat up, spin apart.

I've done stupid things on ****ty tires before, but atleast I'm aware that I can die at any second. God forbid you take a few with you.

At high speeds, our little consumer products can act so much differently...it's not even funny.

ummm, good luck.
Old 10-11-2004 | 04:57 PM
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It's probably a speedometer error, I recall Motor Trend testing a 97 SE to a top speed of 133 or so.
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:04 PM
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the MPH rating means that that tire will peforme at whatever speed they r rated for for 1 hour and not sacrafice performance
I think you are probably right bceause the speed ratings were originally established is Europe for roads without speed limits and where they drive at a high rate of speed for a long period of time.


I think trying to focus the camera on the speedometer is going to make things a little trickier

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Old 10-11-2004 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Weasel
It's probably a speedometer error, I recall Motor Trend testing a 97 SE to a top speed of 133 or so.
i've had mine pegged before...145+ mph indicated. you really think at those speeds the speedo is off by 12+ mph?
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:10 PM
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Heh, screw your friends dude.. Its not even worth it to go so fast for them and put yourself in harm..

Anyways its your life.. All I can tell you is use multiburst shots in your cam, most probably unless its really bright outside you're not gonna get a clear shot.. so just put the cam hold the button down and keep ur eyes on the road
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Weasel
It's probably a speedometer error, I recall Motor Trend testing a 97 SE to a top speed of 133 or so.
I doubt it was speedometer error. I have gone 130 in my dads 2k2 max and this was much faster. plus this took me forever to get to and had a slight hill quite a while before leveling off and coming to the T. Maybe Motor Trend was using the Automatic. Maybe i should get my cop friend to take his radar out there and verify it. I just don't want any other cops I don't know to verify it for me. I know each state is different but what does 145MPH in a 65 get ya?
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:15 PM
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i am right about the tires by the way....and :tdown: to trying to take a picture and going that fast on the street
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:26 PM
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I went 135 in mine once with 3 other people in it and it felt like it could go faster. After that I never go over 90...I like my life too much. The only thing I can tell you is to not touch ur brakes at that speed no matter what. Don't test out your luck either, cops will take your lisence away for a very long time.
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:30 PM
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All I can tell you is use multiburst shots in your cam, most probably unless its really bright outside you're not gonna get a clear shot.. so just put the cam hold the button down and keep ur eyes on the road
I have an old olympus digital camera and it wont do that. I was just going to take a pic of the dash. You don't think it will come out? I would like to get it on the first try so i don't have to do it multiple times.
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:37 PM
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The only thing I can tell you is to not touch ur brakes at that speed no matter what.
I hit my breaks, I just kinda tap them slowly and then i had to start to pull my E-brake up a little because i was coming to the end of the highway and my breaks werent sounding so good and weren't stopping me very fast. I could have stopped just using the regular breaks but i didn't want them to stop working all together. It took me 3 runs until i could go all out. The other 2 times I got up to 130 and there would be a car and I'm not going to pass a someone going 65MPH while I'm going 140+.
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima lover
I have an old olympus digital camera and it wont do that. I was just going to take a pic of the dash. You don't think it will come out? I would like to get it on the first try so i don't have to do it multiple times.
Maybe, but I hate camera shake any little bit of it and the pics is blurry.. You can try flash but I dont know how well it will come out with the glare on the dash plastic thing..

Do it in the daytime, with a high iso setting it will come out.
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:38 PM
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just wondering how do you know you are doig 145? i though it only goes up to 140? I have hot i 130 by myself in my car.

Chotuha just wondering why would you ever go that fast with people in your car? So you could risk there lives to. Especally seeing what happened to affiro with his friend in the car makes me never do that with other people in the car....to much to risk.
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:40 PM
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its really dangerous to go 145 mph on 200 mph rated tires.

Its dangerous to go to 145 period
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:42 PM
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Yea it sounds like a good idea
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:03 PM
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Can't really think of a reason to go that fast...dont worry what others say and stay safe
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:06 PM
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just wondering how do you know you are doig 145? i though it only goes up to 140?

Originally Posted by ManualMaxima
Chotuha just wondering why would you ever go that fast with people in your car?
It was the distance past 140 that it would be say from 60-65. Of course it was an estimate plus the speedometer is probably off a little.

Yea it's stupid to go that fast with other in your car Chotuha. Right as I was reading that I heard on the news about a girl going 130MPH speeding around here with 2 other people in her car and she wreck. She was the only one to die so far and the others have lifethreating injuries and may not make it.
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:08 PM
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going that fast isnt too smart
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:14 PM
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going that fast isnt too smart
Beside the fact some unseen thing could happen and I could die why not? I make sure no one is around. The highway is open enough and is almost brand new. Not many cops around. I mean I could die tomorrow on my way to that strech of highway if a truck runs a red light and hits me. $hit happens and everything that happens happens for a reason.
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:18 PM
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have fun then.
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:21 PM
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I've had my balding pirelli supersport tires come apart on me on the dyno......

145mph is suicide.
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:41 PM
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I learn on other peoples mistakes, going fast is too dangerous, especially if you have people in the car. I meen look at Affiro, poor guy is now being trialed with man slaughter. Stay safe, and know your surroundings.
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:43 PM
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oh, and i learn on my mistakes too, lol... last thing you want is a cop getting behind you when your doing 110 racing a prelude! i got off because the cop ended up being my neigbor. but he still told my mom, lol
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:01 PM
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Hmmm, after reading this I kinda see why insurance for under 25 is so expensive. Go ahead, flame on. *putting on the firesuit*
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:10 PM
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I meen look at Affiro, poor guy is now being trialed with man slaughter.
What happened to him?
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:13 PM
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dude just photoshop the picture.....
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Weasel
It's probably a speedometer error, I recall Motor Trend testing a 97 SE to a top speed of 133 or so.
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:15 PM
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Hmmm, after reading this I kinda see why insurance for under 25 is so expensive.
I'm really coordinated I think I can handle it. Plus you make it sound like I’m the only one that has tried to top out their max.
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:22 PM
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Like was already said, treadwear ratings are based upon heat buildup and those ratings are based upon a period of one hour sustained operation at said speed. So no it shouldn't hurt your tires to go that fast, but it may very well lower your life expectancy. I'm not going to be a hypocrite though, I have gone that fast and faster in my Max, but it is done with as much caution as can be used when going 145mph.

And btw speedometer error is for the most part an unfounded, and inaccurate belief perpetuated by alot of people on the internet. Speedometers in cars are for the most part very accurate at all speeds unless there is something specifically wrong with them. And motortrend tested a 95 SE 5spd at 142mph with a radar gun back in 95.
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima lover
I hit my breaks, I just kinda tap them slowly and then i had to start to pull my E-brake up a little because i was coming to the end of the highway and my breaks werent sounding so good and weren't stopping me very fast. I could have stopped just using the regular breaks but i didn't want them to stop working all together. It took me 3 runs until i could go all out. The other 2 times I got up to 130 and there would be a car and I'm not going to pass a someone going 65MPH while I'm going 140+.
Your E-brake is your regular rear brakes, just actuated by a cable instead of hydraulic. By using your emergency brake to slow you down you are simply putting all the braking work on the rear brakes. They are not designed for that. If you need to slow down use your brake pedal. Do not try to stop a 3000+ car from high speed with two small REAR brakes. Ther front brakes of a car do 75% of the stoping work and are designed as such. If the brakes feel like they are fading, slow down.

As to driving 145 on 130 rated tires...not a fantastic idea, but for a short distance should not be a huge problem. The heat is the problem, if the tires are at higher temp after highway use, they will not last as long as a cold tire, however they will have more grip. Just use extreme caution if you do this. Killing someone else while doing this would really suck.
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:40 PM
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Speedometer error-

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1906
Old 10-11-2004 | 07:47 PM
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Morons:

You for going 145...
The genius Maximus_95 for thinking tire rating has anything to do with redline...
You again for thinking speed ratings were developed in europe...
You a third time for thinking your "cop friend" would radar-verify it...
You a fourth time for thinking your e-brake (rear-only) would do a better job stopping you than ALL FOUR brakes...
You a fifth time for thinking you're "coordinated and can handle it"...

Old 10-11-2004 | 08:22 PM
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This thread makes my head hurt...
Old 10-11-2004 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
Morons:

You for going 145...
The genius Maximus_95 for thinking tire rating has anything to do with redline...
You again for thinking speed ratings were developed in europe...
You a third time for thinking your "cop friend" would radar-verify it...
You a fourth time for thinking your e-brake (rear-only) would do a better job stopping you than ALL FOUR brakes...
You a fifth time for thinking you're "coordinated and can handle it"...
1) Going 60 is dangerous too if you aren't under control so going 145 isn't any different as long as I‘m under control.
2)“In Europe, where selected highways do not have speed limits and high speed driving is permitted, speed ratings were established to match the speed capability of tires with the top speed capability of the vehicles to which they are applied. Speed ratings are established in kilometers per hour and subsequently converted to miles per hour (which explains why speed ratings appear established at "unusual" mile per hour increments).”
That’s from www.tirerack.com I know there a fly by night business but that comes straight from them. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...eral/speed.jsp
3) My cop friend is a young cop and does stupid $hit all of the time. He had me radar his truck to see what it topped out at. So I don't think he will have a problem doing it for me.
4) I need new front breaks really bad and they do almost nothing.
5) I am coordinated and I can handle it. You have never seen me drive.
Old 10-11-2004 | 08:53 PM
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How can you possibly even compare going 60 to going 145?


Thank God I don't live in the St. Louis, Mo area.
Old 10-11-2004 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
Morons:

You for going 145...
The genius Maximus_95 for thinking tire rating has anything to do with redline...
You again for thinking speed ratings were developed in europe...
You a third time for thinking your "cop friend" would radar-verify it...
You a fourth time for thinking your e-brake (rear-only) would do a better job stopping you than ALL FOUR brakes...
You a fifth time for thinking you're "coordinated and can handle it"...


where did you get that maximus_95 said that redline had anything to do with tires , he said that like redline, the more you do it, the chances are greater that something is going to go wrong


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