I drove a 98 SE 5 speed today, I have seen comments that the 95-96's are faster than the 97-99's. I'm curious if anyone knows the exact differences. I remember reading on Car and Driver that the 97+ weighed more due to better sound insulation and a few other details I can't remember.

The difference seemed significant to me. Could it be that there was just something wrong with the 98 I drove?

 

Lies.

No proof of that statement, no matter how many times it is repeated.

 

No Ben. The VTCs on the 98s were superior. Didn't you see the TSB on that?

 

The 95 also weighs 200lbs less from what I've read, and has less "speed emissions"

 

maxima's are slow.

 

Damnit guys, you should read the FAQ's. Of course the 95's are faster.

 

check knock sensor as well.

 

and the johnson rods

 

Ben, if adjust the VTEC on the 95 wrong, it's as slow as rocks dude. You have no idea what you are talking about

 

There must be something up with the car itself. Like I said, I know this has been talked about before, but I wanted to see if the difference is significant. Seemed like there was a good second difference off the line compared to my car. Seems like a good deal though, 98 with 70K for 6,000..

 

To bad only canadianspec 95's had Vtec

 

they did have vtc? are you sure....?? only in 95 in canada? or in japan?

 

Andrei

 

In Europe actually. Called EDM

 

Might want to clean the throttle body. That's been known to shave atleast .5 on a quarter mile run.

 

Exactly. The speed emissions on the 95-96 were far less restrictive than on the 97-99's. The computer on the 97-99's actually retarded the timing about 5 degrees whenever you floored it, which takes off a good 15fwhp/20fwtq. The 95-96's timing was left alone, so it would pull a 97-99 by 1-2 cars. They did this to the 97-99's for national safety and emission reasons.

 

Come one Jeff, since when is Canada part of Europe




Wait till you guys see hte EDM Headlights and VI

 

my euro spec has a vtec . . . and it's a 96

 

nice sig maxfan

 

Depends on what CAI you use right? That could be 20hp right there

 

Not to mention that the '95-96 wheels were smaller and 4 lbs. lighter each. That alone will make a small difference. There are plenty of reasons why a '95-'96 should be slightly faster...not a single one why the '97-99's should be. Not to say it's THAT big of a deal, however. It's probably 1 car length to 60, at best.

 

 

Has any other car manufacturer besides Nissan made each successive year's car slower? I keep reading 95-97 is faster than 98-99, and that's faster than 00-01 and we all know those are faster than 02-03 which can beat the crap out of 04-05.

 

You leave my boyfriend out of this. Hater!

 

The speed list from fast to slow goes:

2002-3
2004-5
1995-6
2000-1
1997-9

Those last two are tossups, however.

 

Off hand? The early 90's SHOs were faster than their newer V8 versions. How sad is that?

 

This has to stop. The truth is that the 95-96 models had a FET built into their water pump housing. This transistor sensed when the car was under more than 80% throttle, when it sensed that parameter it released a stream of methanol, stored in the blinker fluid reservoir, to add 10% more hp. I have diagrams an everything to back it up. Another thing, when slowing down the 95-96 maximas used the friction caused by the rotors/brake pads to fill up the static charge reservoir. This reservoir sends electrons to the tires to get better grip. If you want the diagrams, email me at 1bretawded@popopoo.org.

 

Email me hte diagrams so I can do this on my 97


dudeman@ughhhh.com

 

you sure its only the canadian spec?? I could of heard/felt my vtec kick in at 4grand.. and i have a 95SE maybe it was a optional item.

 

No I am 100% sure, what you are feeling is the Johnson Rods. Ben can explain those....

 

Ooooo Your going to hell. Very creative.

 

HAHAHA!! Wow - that's quite possibly the most elaborate load of BS I've ever read. Way to give 110% on that one.

 

johnson rods??? vtec in 95/96's...., this thread is becoming really really hilarious....

 

hahaha, this thread is great, there are unlimited reasons for it, how much would i get out of a chip though, would i get the 15-20 hp that im being "robed from" back at least?

 

ok so uh... what year maxima is the fastest stock??

 

I already told you, 2002 or 2003 6-speed. Of the 4th gens? '95 or '96 5-speed.

 

3rd Gens own you

 

lexx426....about your "robbed" hp....I would take all of this with a grain of salt...!! the only reason the 95 and 96 are any bit faster are because they are lighter and have lighter wheels stock....so stock vs. stock...the 95/96's are marginally faster....in fact I would wager that most 97's and above are actually faster than 95/96's out there simply b/c the 95/96 max engines are a little more tired....and aged....but all of this would still amount to only marginal differences....and even if this retarding timing thing is true when you floor it, then any aftermarket chip would not only stop the retarding from happening when you floor it, but it would also advance timing over that (timing on the 4th gens is purely electronical and not mechanical...so it is done by the ecu)....but if this were true, then wouldn't swapping a stock 95/96 maxima ecu into a 97/98 increase the performance of the 97/98 considerably??? why wouldn't this be the most frequent mod if it were true since you can get a 95/96 used ecu for cheap!!!

emissions do affect performance....so that might make a difference...the only way to tell would be to dyno a 95 engine and a 97/98 engine stock....in either way, say the precats or cats are more restricitive on a 97/98, those would be removed with the y pipe anyway, and the cats are usually replaced by maxima owners with aftermarket ones or straight pipes....

 

michaelnyden, do you know of anybody who has indeed done that ecu swap? because if it is how you say it is it should do a feelable amount to your car.

 

my vtec kicks in at 5200, man i love the way it sounds with my DC headers and Aem Fuel rail