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is it bad to have a REMOTE START on a 5spd?

Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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is it bad to have a REMOTE START on a 5spd?

hey guys i have a 98 max SE 5 spd and im plannin on gettin the VIPER 791xv (remote start/ security system)......is it bad for the car to have a remote start on a 5spd?

any advantages or disadvantages?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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yes, if the alarm senses that the car is five speed, a little egg hatches and a gremlin pops out

it continues to grow at an exponential rate, until it bursts out of the hood and takes over the world
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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lol xarfox. The disadvantage to that is that if u ever leave ur car in gear and you try to start it, it might take off on u. Ive seen it happen a few times. Advantages is that your car will be warm in the winter time when its cold outside.
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ummm ookk....anyone else?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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i always park my car in neutral
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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probably have to buy the viper without warantee
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by satchmo12345
i always park my car in neutral
What are you gonna do when your parking brake fails and your car rolls down a hill and kills some kids.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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would it hurt my car mechanically? liek mess up the starter....etc.....i kno i will have to leave my car in neutral from now on i was just wondering if it would be bad for the car to have one put in....
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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it should be ok, but in most places its illegal.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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Only if it's started in gear. If you park on a hill you really should leave it in gear.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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No, just the safety and warantee issues
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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But wouldit not start causeyou have to have the clutch pressed in? I might be wrong but i was just wondering.If so i am goingto get one cause the come with most alarms now.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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yea the reason why im gettin one is cuz i kno a professional installer that will do it for free and also my keyless entry remote is starting to go out....the range is gettin extremly poor range....and since the VIPER 791xv is a 2 way security/remote start it should be alot better than our stock alarms....THEY SUCK!.....the only thing i was worried about is the remote start being hard on my starter or whatever it might harm...i guess i just have to make sure its out of gear when i turn off my car
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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i got a 5spd w/a starter, mechanically its fine, well to my knowledge. but i would invest in this thing for 5psds...i dont know wut its called but it senses if u car is in gear...and it wont allow start up...and there is also another thing that makes it so that if the ebrake isn't up...it wont start either....
works well, and it'll take people (potential thieves) some times to figure out how to start ur car, if u leave it in gear w/o the ebrake
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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So even with the key it won't start in gear and with ebrake down?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bearded
What are you gonna do when your parking brake fails and your car rolls down a hill and kills some kids.
my ebrake seems very strong and its never parked on a hill
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by drunkenmunky23
i got a 5spd w/a starter, mechanically its fine, well to my knowledge. but i would invest in this thing for 5psds...i dont know wut its called but it senses if u car is in gear...and it wont allow start up...and there is also another thing that makes it so that if the ebrake isn't up...it wont start either....
works well, and it'll take people (potential thieves) some times to figure out how to start ur car, if u leave it in gear w/o the ebrake
My brother has the remote start on his 5 speed also... and it's the same way, if the car is in gear you can't start it with the remote, only with key. He's had for 3 years and no problems at all, same starter also. It's great for the winter.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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is it any remote starter or speciifc brands and types?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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does anyone own a viper remote start?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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how much do these run? would you ever buy a e-bay cheap-o 2-way or do you get what you pay for. i do otcare abut alot of features just acouple.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC_Maxima97
My brother has the remote start on his 5 speed also... and it's the same way, if the car is in gear you can't start it with the remote, only with key. He's had for 3 years and no problems at all, same starter also. It's great for the winter.

could u find out wat he uses so we can get one also?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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Eh, illegal and dangerous, but if you're careful, i dont see why not.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sachmo12345
my ebrake seems very strong and its never parked on a hill
Hahaha .... the flat dullness of most of Ohio.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Terran
Only if it's started in gear. If you park on a hill you really should leave it in gear.
In San Fran if you don't leave it in gear and turn your wheels, you get a ticket from the meter maids...
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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What are you gonna do when your parking brake fails and your car rolls down a hill and kills some kids.
this is where the gremlin comes in... it stops the car from killing the children (because it likes them) then continues on with its primary objective (taking over the world)

Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by xarfox
this is where the gremlin comes in... it stops the car from killing the children (because it likes them) then continues on with its primary objective (taking over the world)


you got too much time on your hands.....
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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ive installed atleast 10 of these for many 4th genr's here and off the org. And a ton of other 5spd cars, STI's, S/A4's, GTI's, etc.... Two of them(4th and 5th gen) had their cars take off. One hit a poll and caused $2g of damage(mechanic left it in gear after being worked on ) the other his dad left the car in gear on his driveway and it went through the garage door... $3g later both the car and doors were ok.
Be sure whoever installs your system you have them install a toggle switch on the clutch wire. That way if you take the car in for service you can trip the line and the car will not remote start. And then once you have the car back you can flip it again and be back to remote start.

be safe!

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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most shops i know wont even install this, let alone the one time you leave it in gear and put it through the back of the garage. I wouldn't do it, but i'm a wierdo. I'm also the same guy who doesn't see why you can't just start your car and go inside :-P
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by evanparker
most shops i know wont even install this, let alone the one time you leave it in gear and put it through the back of the garage. I wouldn't do it, but i'm a wierdo. I'm also the same guy who doesn't see why you can't just start your car and go inside :-P
i guess you totally over looked what i posted...

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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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i got a remote start on my 5 speed, you just have to bypass the clutch switch, or you can move that switch to the ebrake so that if the ebrake isnt up it wont start. i just bypassed it. ive got a remote start kill switch for the times when im working under the hood or i park it in gear. also, mechanically theres no problems with adding remote start as long as its done correctly. i installed mine myself, but i also do car audio and alarms for a living. i say go for it and be safe with it. i put my car in gear and remote started just to see what would happen. with the ebrake on it just jumps a foot or so and dies, with the ebrake off, itll definitely start moving. and on the matter of the ebay 2 way paging alarms, 2 of my buddies have them and they really arent bad at all. i was impressed myself. but in the end you would be better off getting a viper or code alarm or something along those lines. just get what your budget allows and youll be happy.
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:41 AM
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I used a trick on my 300zx that I got from the 350z forum. I wired a magnet sensor from a house alarm to the clutch switch. I mounted the sensor to the edge of my shifter console and the magnet to the shifter. If my shifter is in gear, it doesn't make contact with the magnet, not giving a signal to start. If the shifter is in neutral, there is contact with the magnet and it will start.
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Doesn't the ecu have a neutral position wire? Couldn't u tap in to that?
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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yes it does, and when you find out which wire it is, you can share the wisdom.
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