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Old 10-17-2004, 11:36 PM
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nooOo!! my wsp y-pipe is doing "bees-in-the-can" again... suggestion?

well...my wsp y-pipe is about 2years+ with 60,000 miles. i'm the second owner and the flex section is wrapped with DEI exhaust wrap.

i don't if it was the rain or my new greddy sp2, but today in CA it finally rain and and the "bees-in-the-can" sound is very noticible. what should i do?

1. get myself another $160 wsp y-pipe from GD.
2. ship my y-pipe to dallas and get the flex section replaced.
3. buy myself a brand new custommaxima SS y-pipe for $250.
4. buy a used cattman/stillen SS y-pipe from 4th gen classified.

basically i post this thread to let you guys know that warpspeed non-SS y-pipe doesn't last too long that's all.
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yay thank you ricefob.. just made me happy that i got a cattman SS y-pipe on the way! got it used from the classifieds... phew... was actually thinking about getting the wsp but living in chicago didnt think it would last too long.. and you living in cali... man.. im happy
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well that s not good...i thought me being in cali this wouldnt be something i need to worry about. do you start hearing it at a certain rpm? or is it always there no matter what rpm you are at
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Call WSP and let them take care of you.

I doubt it went bad after two years but hey ..

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so aluminum y-pipe's are no good? actually my friend is having problems with his aluminized WSP y-pipe too. it's been patched up so many times that it's practially made out of weldings now.
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yea...there's a lot of things that i wish i could have done it right in the first place.

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1. SS y-pipe over aluminized y-pipe
2. greddy sp2 catback over custom back
3. sprint springs over maxspeed springs
4. Sumitomo HTR+ over kumho ecsta supra

and the list goes on...
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yeah i know wat u mean. I would've gotten an SE 5-spd to start with.
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Originally Posted by happyricefob
well...my wsp y-pipe is about 2years+ with 60,000 miles. i'm the second owner and the flex section is wrapped with DEI exhaust wrap.

i don't if it was the rain or my new greddy sp2, but today in CA it finally rain and and the "bees-in-the-can" sound is very noticible. what should i do?

1. get myself another $160 wsp y-pipe from GD.
2. ship my y-pipe to dallas and get the flex section replaced.
3. buy myself a brand new custommaxima SS y-pipe for $250.
4. buy a used cattman/stillen SS y-pipe from 4th gen classified.

basically i post this thread to let you guys know that warpspeed non-SS y-pipe doesn't last too long that's all.
What? "I don't if it was the rain..."
Learn English. And yeah, go with Budget, unless you are too cool.
I could jack you for ALL your stuff...and that cute lil girl in your avatar...But hey!
Hey...Just Kidding.
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Originally Posted by Maximeltman
What? "I don't if it was the rain..."
Learn English. And yeah, go with Budget, unless you are too cool.
I could jack you for ALL your stuff...and that cute lil girl in your avatar...But hey!
Hey...Just Kidding.

Your a dork
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Originally Posted by Maximeltman
What? "I don't if it was the rain..."
Learn English. And yeah, go with Budget, unless you are too cool.
I could jack you for ALL your stuff...and that cute lil girl in your avatar...But hey!
Hey...Just Kidding.
1. learn chinese
2. i am too cool
3. so im' not gonna get budget
4. don't touch my stuff, i know kung fu.

Originally Posted by gtr_rider
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I had the bees in a can sound. What i did was i went to a exhaust shop and the welded the pipe to whatever it was that it was rattling against. Or they might have cut something off. But it doesnt rattle that much anymore....
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why don't you call them and ask about it? i think a few people have got a flex section shipped to them and had an exhaust shop weld it in. i had to rewrap my budget flex section really ghetto because it unravelled but hopefully it stays quiet this time. goodluck happy
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Originally Posted by Jepht20
why don't you call them and ask about it? i think a few people have got a flex section shipped to them and had an exhaust shop weld it in. i had to rewrap my budget flex section really ghetto because it unravelled but hopefully it stays quiet this time. goodluck happy
alrite i'll give them a call...
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get a cattman y pipe or headers...
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Originally Posted by Prophecy1
Call WSP and let them take care of you.

I doubt it went bad after two years but hey ..

PRoph

Man i haven't laughed that hard in a long time. WSP is worthless when it comes to replacing parts. I had a CAT go bad in 5 months, tried to work with dallas, he sent me a busted a s s CAT, called to ask what the hell happened, he said you want a new one, you can pay full price for it.

Good LUCK !!!

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lukes SS CM Y sounds fine.
my WS Y sounds ricey at times too.... even with the stock cat back.
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anyone has custommaxima's y-pipe? i'm leaning towards CM's y-pipe and i would like more feedback/impression from a personal user.
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I'll have a review up maybe later tonight, Kev
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Get WSP SS. I went for the very best they had, the Mandrel bent SS with the best welds, TIG I think? Add Full Wrap and that's a Y-pipe!
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I'll have a review up maybe later tonight, Kev
really? yaYyyy!!
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Dallas won't warranty anything because the pipe was wrapped. I believe this is posted on their site too. Cattman won't warranty if you do the same.

Regardless of the marketing, a lined flex section isn't going to stop all the bees in the cans sound. There's no way around it. Much of the noise comes from the thinner wall tubing. Both Cattman and Dallas admit this. As the temps drop outside, the y-pipes become more noisy. My alumnized non-mandrel lined WSP y-pipe as made a mild bees in the can sound at around 4500+rpms at WOT. The sound isn't near has pronounced as it was with my nonlined Stillen Y-pipe.

As for rust, I've had my alumnized WSP y-pipe for about 3 years now and it's endured 3 Midwest salty winters. There's no rust on the pipe. Here's a pic of the y-pipe after last years winter:



Remember, stainless can rust too and I've seen stainless Budget Y-pipes with rust.
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Dallas won't warranty anything because the pipe was wrapped. I believe this is posted on their site too. Cattman won't warranty if you do the same.

Regardless of the marketing, a lined flex section isn't going to stop all the bees in the cans sound. There's no way around it. Much of the noise comes from the thinner wall tubing. Both Cattman and Dallas admit this. As the temps drop outside, the y-pipes become more noisy. My alumnized non-mandrel lined WSP y-pipe as made a mild bees in the can sound at around 4500+rpms at WOT. The sound isn't near has pronounced as it was with my nonlined Stillen Y-pipe.

As for rust, I've had my alumnized WSP y-pipe for about 3 years now and it's endured 3 Midwest salty winters. There's no rust on the pipe. Here's a pic of the y-pipe after last years winter:



Remember, stainless can rust too and I've seen stainless Budget Y-pipes with rust.

Exactly! (Although I will wait until this winter surpasses until I install mine.)
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Originally Posted by happyricefob
yea...there's a lot of things that i wish i could have done it right in the first place.

ie.
1. SS y-pipe over aluminized y-pipe
2. greddy sp2 catback over custom back
3. sprint springs over maxspeed springs
4. Sumitomo HTR+ over kumho ecsta supra

and the list goes on...

why do you regret the custom exhaust?
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Originally Posted by max prodigy
why do you regret the custom exhaust?
cuz greddy 0wns
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How much for the Nopi lawnmower?
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Originally Posted by maximabebe
How much for the Nopi lawnmower?
LOL...thats one hella fast mower
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my warpspeed pipe is a bit off in its construction it hits again the huge undercar brace and the o2 sensor was hitting up against the oil pan. would dallas send me a replacement???
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Originally Posted by maximabebe
How much for the Nopi lawnmower?
It's a one of a kind. It's also sponsored by HKS, Koni, and AGX. Best of all, it's a Honda, so you know it's fast.
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It's a one of a kind. It's also sponsored by HKS, Koni, and AGX. Best of all, it's a Honda, so you know it's fast.
lol...nice...what kinda intake you running...? I see the 9" rims
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lol...nice...what kinda intake you running...?
AEM of course.

I see the 9" rims
They're actually 7" rims. They look bigger because it's a Honda. I prefer the smaller rims for reduced inertia and extra power. It also has a one lever adjustable suspension with 5 setting, stock height down to completely slammed. I don't run it on slammed much because it gets high centered on exposed tree roots and ant hills.
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Warpspeed sucks imo. I have their catback and it trully stinks along with the y pipe. Go to Cattman and get a SS one and get the bs over with.
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yea i'm waiting for luke's CM SS y-pipe review...if it's good then i'm gonna buy that......
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I think im in the same boat. I started getting a bees in a can type noise on my budget y pipe, right around 2500 rpms. will wrapping it help get rid of the noise much?
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Here goes Kev, http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=347193
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