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Old 11-18-2004 | 05:18 AM
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Gauging Intrest on lowering the front of your max about 1 inch lower?

My friend made me a new piece that will drop my front about 1 inch lower. It is a part that replaces the black thing you see under the hood the strut goes through. What it does is move the bolt up higher to drop in about an inch. These are custom made and he said he could make them if people were interested. I will have pics up monday. Price would be between 75-100 bucks. Would work great for people that have heavy stereos to level out the car. I just need an idea of how many would be interested. Thank you for your time.

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Old 11-18-2004 | 05:42 AM
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Take a pic and post it.
Old 11-18-2004 | 05:46 AM
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Moving the bolt/nut up only moves the strut piston. You need to move the entire mount up to bring the strut & spring upwards to get the car's ride height to change.

Lets see what you buddy actually made.

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Old 11-18-2004 | 05:48 AM
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If these are the same as the ones a guy was making for G20s, they wont work on our cars.

G20s have a control arm from suspension while we have struts. Believe me, I've already thought of this.

The only way to change the ride height of the car is to use a shorter spring or to change the mounting location of the spring. Since our springs have to turn with the struts for steering, there's no way to raise the top of the spring to lower the car.

BUt, feel free to prove me wring with pics
Old 11-18-2004 | 09:14 AM
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If these are the same as the ones a guy was making for G20s, they wont work on our cars.

G20s have a control arm from suspension while we have struts. Believe me, I've already thought of this.

The only way to change the ride height of the car is to use a shorter spring or to change the mounting location of the spring. Since our springs have to turn with the struts for steering, there's no way to raise the top of the spring to lower the car.

BUt, feel free to prove me wring with pics
He took the black piece and instead of having the flat part were the bolt goes through at the bottom. He made it be at the top. I already tried one test piece and it lowered it about an inch. I also have air suspension but all i did was make the plate higher and it moved the strut up. I would take pics tonight but he took the test one to shine it up and for measurements for the other side. Pics will be up monday.
Old 11-18-2004 | 09:16 AM
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Hmm interesting.
I curious to see the pics.
100 bux seems a bit high though. 50-60 sounds better
Old 11-18-2004 | 10:30 AM
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i'd be interested if the price was lower.
Old 11-18-2004 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by euromaxima
I also have air suspension but all i did was make the plate higher and it moved the strut up.
It won't work for those of us that have coil springs (not "coilovers" you idiots ).
Old 11-18-2004 | 10:58 AM
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Yep, you could take out the strut piston, but your ride height won't change. The spring is what determines ride height. The strut simply controls the spring compression and rebound.
Old 11-18-2004 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
It won't work for those of us that have coil springs (not "coilovers" you idiots ).
Maybe Im wrong. but this plate has nothing to do with the springs. The top of the threaded part of the strut goes through the black stock piece and at the bottom of the threaded is a shaft of the strut. When you remove the black piece and replace it with the new plate the strut slides up more making the car lower. I could be wrong I haven't tested it on a car with springs, but I do know it works for my car and don't see why it wouldn't and a strut and spring combo.

IF I had someone close to me to come to my house and try it as a test I would do that.
Old 11-18-2004 | 11:05 AM
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in for the pics. Let's see what you have
Old 11-18-2004 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by euromaxima
Maybe Im wrong. but this plate has nothing to do with the springs.
Just as I posted above, and Dave posted, the spring is what holds the car up, not the strut piston. The only way to lower the car is to use a shorter spring or to move the upper or lower mounting point for the spring.

I don't know how to put it into words. Just look at the way the suspension goes together and you can see that moving the top of the strut piston up wont change the ride height. It also wont increase suspension travel because travel is limited by the bumpstop hitting the strut body, not the strut bottoming internally.
Old 11-18-2004 | 11:21 AM
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I don't know how to put it into words. Just look at the way the suspension goes together and you can see that moving the top of the strut piston up wont change the ride height. It also wont increase suspension travel because travel is limited by the bumpstop hitting the strut body, not the strut bottoming internally.[/QUOTE]

ok just delete this thread. I still don't see how if it worked for me why wouldn't it work for others. i mean my strut bag setup is like a spring basically i can go up or down but if I let all the air out it stops it won't go lower. but by using this new plate made me go a inch lower. So could you tell me how it worked for me cause I don't understand.
Old 11-18-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by euromaxima
So could you tell me how it worked for me cause I don't understand.
I don't know either, so get crackin' with some pics
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euromaxima, I'm in Cincinnati, how far are you from me?
Old 11-18-2004 | 12:47 PM
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euromaxima, I'm in Cincinnati, how far are you from me?
probably 6 or 8 hours. im about 3 hours form lousiville
Old 11-18-2004 | 12:57 PM
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damn that's far, nevermind. you can drive up here though.
Old 11-18-2004 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by euromaxima
Maybe Im wrong. but this plate has nothing to do with the springs. The top of the threaded part of the strut goes through the black stock piece and at the bottom of the threaded is a shaft of the strut. When you remove the black piece and replace it with the new plate the strut slides up more making the car lower. I could be wrong I haven't tested it on a car with springs, but I do know it works for my car and don't see why it wouldn't and a strut and spring combo.

IF I had someone close to me to come to my house and try it as a test I would do that.
Hell, I'm just a couple of hours away right now (in Murray)...we might be able to work something out sometime to test it out.
Old 11-19-2004 | 05:08 AM
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Hell, I'm just a couple of hours away right now (in Murray)...we might be able to work something out sometime to test it out.
if your in around the weekend after next I will have my friend make another one so we can test it
Old 11-19-2004 | 09:17 AM
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This sounds interesting but like everyone else i really dont understand how this would work. i guess we wont know until you get some pictures up.
Old 11-19-2004 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by euromaxima
if your in around the weekend after next I will have my friend make another one so we can test it
Ok, I'm sure we can arrange something around that time. However, I don't know if it's possible to do it in my garage, I think we have another job coming during that time so we may have to find another place.

Oh, and just email me a few days in advance, you can find the address in my profile.
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:55 AM
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So what ever happened with this?
No car to test with, or was it resolved that it wouldnt work for our cars??
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
So what ever happened with this?
No car to test with, or was it resolved that it wouldnt work for our cars??
Only works with airbags.
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