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Old Apr 20, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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Would 19 inch Moda R6's slow down the car substantially? I've seen a lot of posts on here talking about small rims being faster, is this true? thanks
Old Apr 20, 2001 | 07:05 PM
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it's true

Bigger rims have 2 disadvantages to smaller rims:
1. They weigh more. Weight = power loss.

2. The weight is further away from the center of the axle, and so is harder to get turning.

3. They can cost alot. Did I say 2 disadvantages?

4. Rougher ride. low profile tires = less tire to absorb bumps. wait a minute, OK, 4 disadvantages. yeah.

The advantages:

1. Lower profile tires are used with larger rims, making cornering and turn-in more responsive.

2. They look cool. Well SOME rims look cool. OK, some rims, as long as they're not chrome, what are you Dr. Dre or something with those big-*** chrome rims...

Anyways, I personally would stick with light-weight 17" non-chrome, 5-point stars of some sort. That's just me.

Good luck
Old Apr 20, 2001 | 07:08 PM
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Re: it's true

Originally posted by justmax
Bigger rims have 2 disadvantages to smaller rims:
1. They weigh more. Weight = power loss.

2. The weight is further away from the center of the axle, and so is harder to get turning.

3. They can cost alot. Did I say 2 disadvantages?

4. Rougher ride. low profile tires = less tire to absorb bumps. wait a minute, OK, 4 disadvantages. yeah.

The advantages:

1. Lower profile tires are used with larger rims, making cornering and turn-in more responsive.

2. They look cool. Well SOME rims look cool. OK, some rims, as long as they're not chrome, what are you Dr. Dre or something with those big-*** chrome rims...

Anyways, I personally would stick with light-weight 17" non-chrome, 5-point stars of some sort. That's just me.

Good luck
well i want it to fill up the wheel well but still be fast..and no im not gonna be bling bling or anything, those moda's are 5 spoke i believe
Old Apr 20, 2001 | 07:28 PM
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hold on Maxkid

Good job on getting 5spokes, but there's a problem...

It seems like everyone is misled about getting bigger rims with respect to the overall diameter. The diameter should be the same no matter what size rims you get, or your speedometer will be way off.
For example the stock 16's with 215/60/16 will have a diameter of 26.16", now if you go with 19" rims with 235/40/19, your diameter will be 26.40", for an overall increase of:

a whopping .24 inches!!

If you get anything bigger to "fill up the wheel well", then your speedo will make you think you're going slower than you actually are.

Check this out if you don't see what I mean:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Old Apr 20, 2001 | 08:04 PM
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Re: hold on Maxkid

Originally posted by justmax
Good job on getting 5spokes, but there's a problem...

It seems like everyone is misled about getting bigger rims with respect to the overall diameter. The diameter should be the same no matter what size rims you get, or your speedometer will be way off.
For example the stock 16's with 215/60/16 will have a diameter of 26.16", now if you go with 19" rims with 235/40/19, your diameter will be 26.40", for an overall increase of:

a whopping .24 inches!!

If you get anything bigger to "fill up the wheel well", then your speedo will make you think you're going slower than you actually are.

Check this out if you don't see what I mean:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
any way to adjust speedo?
Old Apr 20, 2001 | 09:33 PM
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Re: Re: hold on Maxkid

> any way to adjust speedo?

Wrong strategy.

Wheels/tires with a larger diameter will reduce your gear ratio and slow down your acceleration. Use wheels/tires that match to keep the same performance. If you want to fill up the wheel wells visually, lower the car.

Bob
Old Apr 20, 2001 | 11:23 PM
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well Maxkid

Bob's right, the best way to fill the wheel well is by lowering the car, but to answer your question, yes, the speedo can be adjusted... if you REALLY want a wheel/tire combination that's more than 10% larger than stock, it can be done. Oh yeah, the odometer may also be an issue, but I think probably not.
Old Apr 21, 2001 | 08:40 AM
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Re: it's true

There's one more advantage to bigger rims;

They make the car feel MUCH more stable at hi speed (in excess of 100 mph).

DW

Originally posted by justmax
Bigger rims have 2 disadvantages to smaller rims:
1. They weigh more. Weight = power loss.

2. The weight is further away from the center of the axle, and so is harder to get turning.

3. They can cost alot. Did I say 2 disadvantages?

4. Rougher ride. low profile tires = less tire to absorb bumps. wait a minute, OK, 4 disadvantages. yeah.

The advantages:

1. Lower profile tires are used with larger rims, making cornering and turn-in more responsive.

2. They look cool. Well SOME rims look cool. OK, some rims, as long as they're not chrome, what are you Dr. Dre or something with those big-*** chrome rims...

Anyways, I personally would stick with light-weight 17" non-chrome, 5-point stars of some sort. That's just me.

Good luck
Old Apr 21, 2001 | 10:30 AM
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Re: hold on Maxkid

Originally posted by justmax
For example the stock 16's with 215/60/16 will have a diameter of 26.16", now if you go with 19" rims with 235/40/19, your diameter will be 26.40",

The stock size for the SE is 215/55/16, and the correct size for 19s is 245/35ZR/19.
Old Apr 21, 2001 | 10:36 AM
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Re: it's true

Originally posted by justmax
2. They look cool. Well SOME rims look cool. OK, some rims, as long as they're not chrome, what are you Dr. Dre or something with those big-*** chrome rims...
Yeah, I'm going to have to agree. Chrome rims are very trashy and inexpensive anyway.
Old Apr 21, 2001 | 10:43 AM
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree. Chrome rims are very trashy and inexpensive anyway.
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Old Apr 21, 2001 | 10:44 AM
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Re: Re: Re: it's true

Originally posted by maxkid77
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Ya' Damn Right!
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