Low end power
12-15-2004, 12:10 PM
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Low end power
So I put a cold air intake and and noticed I am losing power at the low end which I read on here would happen but notice more at the high end. What performance part will help me at the low end. Sometimes I feel I am losing horsepower with the cia in. I have stone rcing headers and y-pipe going in soon. Will all of it work better with the cia? Please respond.
12-15-2004, 12:23 PM
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12-15-2004, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
Pretty much yes.
i think a PR would give some low end gains over stock... i bet this guy bought an injen, thats why he gets high end...
throw a popcharger on your stock system though and you'll get more power...
12-15-2004, 05:04 PM
#11
Injen is trash.. had it, hated it, stupid intake.
When I install my PR this weekend I'm going to keep the stock mid pipe. However think of it this way...
No matter how you drive or if you stop, the filter on the PR CAI will always be sucking up outside air. That outside air is a good 80 degrees on a summer day, compared to god knows how hot inside your engine bay.. 80 degrees plus hot radiator air plus exhaust air = alot of hot air being sucked up by your intake, even when your moving.
Thats my theory...
When I install my PR this weekend I'm going to keep the stock mid pipe. However think of it this way...
No matter how you drive or if you stop, the filter on the PR CAI will always be sucking up outside air. That outside air is a good 80 degrees on a summer day, compared to god knows how hot inside your engine bay.. 80 degrees plus hot radiator air plus exhaust air = alot of hot air being sucked up by your intake, even when your moving.
Thats my theory...
12-15-2004, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
Injen is trash.. had it, hated it, stupid intake.
When I install my PR this weekend I'm going to keep the stock mid pipe. However think of it this way...
No matter how you drive or if you stop, the filter on the PR CAI will always be sucking up outside air. That outside air is a good 80 degrees on a summer day, compared to god knows how hot inside your engine bay.. 80 degrees plus hot radiator air plus exhaust air = alot of hot air being sucked up by your intake, even when your moving.
Thats my theory...
When I install my PR this weekend I'm going to keep the stock mid pipe. However think of it this way...
No matter how you drive or if you stop, the filter on the PR CAI will always be sucking up outside air. That outside air is a good 80 degrees on a summer day, compared to god knows how hot inside your engine bay.. 80 degrees plus hot radiator air plus exhaust air = alot of hot air being sucked up by your intake, even when your moving.
Thats my theory...
12-15-2004, 05:17 PM
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The stock intake gives the best throttle response. Open it up slightly and you get a little more top end because it breathes better, yet you still keep the great throttle response.
12-15-2004, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
Place Racing.....if its a short ram like frankencar or weapon r ur losing powa.....but a true CAI will yield some gains....i n theory
12-15-2004, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jdm71488
a pr is a pr ebay or from pr themselves... it will give better low end i believe... it makes no difference if you get one off ebay... same tubes different name...
k&n will also aid performance a bit...
k&n will also aid performance a bit...
12-15-2004, 06:08 PM
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uh oh... you are confused...
a Place Racing Style has the filter sit in your fender... if it is the real thing or replica it makes NO difference at all...
a Injen Style has the filter sit in front of the radiator... f it is the real thing or replica it makes NO difference at all...
same thing with short ram... its just a mid-pipe, doesn't matter if its from frankencar, cattman, ebay, or from a PR system like mine...
ebay offers both kinds, one requires drilling (pr) where the injen doesn't... you have to go by styles... not the name...
so yes, replica PR requires drilling... it is just not sold by "Place Racing" or "Cattman"... in fact, cattmans is a replica PR with its name on it... same situation as ebays BOMZ...
a Place Racing Style has the filter sit in your fender... if it is the real thing or replica it makes NO difference at all...
a Injen Style has the filter sit in front of the radiator... f it is the real thing or replica it makes NO difference at all...
same thing with short ram... its just a mid-pipe, doesn't matter if its from frankencar, cattman, ebay, or from a PR system like mine...
ebay offers both kinds, one requires drilling (pr) where the injen doesn't... you have to go by styles... not the name...
so yes, replica PR requires drilling... it is just not sold by "Place Racing" or "Cattman"... in fact, cattmans is a replica PR with its name on it... same situation as ebays BOMZ...
12-15-2004, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by enjoyincubus504
well yea but the real pr is a true cai, it requires drilling, while the ebay replica pr cai or any other brand of cai does not require drilling at all
THe ebay replica of the PR CAI is just that.. a replica, theres no difference. You still have to drill the hole.
12-15-2004, 10:26 PM
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get the REAL CAI off ebay for 35 bucks, keep your stock midpipe( better than aftermarket) and run the filter down to the fender, i just took out my CAI and left midpipe for winter and noticed a lose in power, so i changed back to stock with pop charger.....all you need to do
12-15-2004, 11:51 PM
#24
Originally Posted by Irishmax99
get the REAL CAI off ebay for 35 bucks, keep your stock midpipe( better than aftermarket) and run the filter down to the fender, i just took out my CAI and left midpipe for winter and noticed a lose in power, so i changed back to stock with pop charger.....all you need to do
12-16-2004, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
Pulling info out of your **** eh?
THe ebay replica of the PR CAI is just that.. a replica, theres no difference. You still have to drill the hole.
THe ebay replica of the PR CAI is just that.. a replica, theres no difference. You still have to drill the hole.
12-17-2004, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
You have no idea what your talking about do you?
Cold Air Intake (CAI) (Injen Style) The Injen CAI does not require cutting, the filter stays under the hood. The filter is located away from the engine heat but the tubing has more bends than the Place racing style and how much cold air is available anywhere under the hood is debatable. ~$200 for the Injen or check ebay for generic knock offs for well under $100, they also usually come with a cheap filter that should be replaced with a quality one.
12-17-2004, 11:07 AM
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I still do not know how the "CAI" Cold Air Intake "PR" (place racing intake), gets air at all from been inside fender and with plastic skirt cover and fog light. Maybe if you remove the foglight you will get air, otherwise is filter almost 100% cover all around; been told is coming from bumper opening. Will take a look when get the chance; however PR or Injen styles are not for me unfortunally, as filter sits really low and lots of floodings around my job. Can't afford to loose my car. Besides you do not get any HP gains, maybe better trttle response and nice loud sound.
12-17-2004, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by enjoyincubus504
Cold Air Intake (CAI)(Place Racing Style) A CAI uses a long tube that goes through a hole in your fender to get air from the fenderwell. The colder air from outside the engine compartment is supposed to give a performance increase. The long tubing gives a low RPM power boost, according to Place Racing - 'the air inside the tube creates a ram effect that literally forces the air into the throttle body'. However at higher RPMs this longer tubing restricts airflow giving smaller gains. You can buy a CAI from Warpspeed or Place Racing. Expect to pay between $155 and $210. There are now no name brands of CAIs on ebay for well under $100, most come with a very cheap filter that I would recommend replacing with a K&N (RU-2820) or other quality filter. Some are the Injen style (see below) so make sure you are buying what you want.
Cold Air Intake (CAI) (Injen Style) The Injen CAI does not require cutting, the filter stays under the hood. The filter is located away from the engine heat but the tubing has more bends than the Place racing style and how much cold air is available anywhere under the hood is debatable. ~$200 for the Injen or check ebay for generic knock offs for well under $100, they also usually come with a cheap filter that should be replaced with a quality one.
Cold Air Intake (CAI) (Injen Style) The Injen CAI does not require cutting, the filter stays under the hood. The filter is located away from the engine heat but the tubing has more bends than the Place racing style and how much cold air is available anywhere under the hood is debatable. ~$200 for the Injen or check ebay for generic knock offs for well under $100, they also usually come with a cheap filter that should be replaced with a quality one.
12-17-2004, 12:05 PM
#34
Originally Posted by JSMEXUSA
I still do not know how the "CAI" Cold Air Intake "PR" (place racing intake), gets air at all from been inside fender and with plastic skirt cover and fog light.
12-17-2004, 03:27 PM
#38
Originally Posted by enjoyincubus504
Cold Air Intake (CAI)(Place Racing Style) A CAI uses a long tube that goes through a hole in your fender to get air from the fenderwell. The colder air from outside the engine compartment is supposed to give a performance increase. The long tubing gives a low RPM power boost, according to Place Racing - 'the air inside the tube creates a ram effect that literally forces the air into the throttle body'. However at higher RPMs this longer tubing restricts airflow giving smaller gains. You can buy a CAI from Warpspeed or Place Racing. Expect to pay between $155 and $210. There are now no name brands of CAIs on ebay for well under $100, most come with a very cheap filter that I would recommend replacing with a K&N (RU-2820) or other quality filter. Some are the Injen style (see below) so make sure you are buying what you want.
Cold Air Intake (CAI) (Injen Style) The Injen CAI does not require cutting, the filter stays under the hood. The filter is located away from the engine heat but the tubing has more bends than the Place racing style and how much cold air is available anywhere under the hood is debatable. ~$200 for the Injen or check ebay for generic knock offs for well under $100, they also usually come with a cheap filter that should be replaced with a quality one.
Cold Air Intake (CAI) (Injen Style) The Injen CAI does not require cutting, the filter stays under the hood. The filter is located away from the engine heat but the tubing has more bends than the Place racing style and how much cold air is available anywhere under the hood is debatable. ~$200 for the Injen or check ebay for generic knock offs for well under $100, they also usually come with a cheap filter that should be replaced with a quality one.