95bluse

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Hey guys just wanted to let you know that my starter finally died last weekend. The symptoms before were intermittent slow cranks, just barely turning over the engine, before it started. Finally all it did was click as i turned the ignition. I bypassed the solenoid by shorting the terminals, nothing from the starter so I knew it was dead. Anyway, went to my mechanic with the old starter and we visited a rebuild shop he uses for starters/alternators. The owner told us to get a new starter as opposed to a rebuild, since the new ones were more powerful and really turns over the engine snappily. He said it was redisigned by Nissan because the original was underpowered and caused it to burn out due to the fact it wouldn't crank fast enough to start the car, causing the starter to overheat.He showed us his book with the specs as I was skeptical it would fit work in my '95 (I've had one starter that wouldn't fit properly from another shop a few years ago). The drive gear on the starter was 10-tooth and length-wise was quite shorter, and the body of the starter seemed slightly longer.
To get to the point finally , I installed it and all I can say is it a HUGE difference! The car kicks over instantly, just turn the key to start and release immediately. I don't think this car has ever started like this even when i got it in '97. Agreed the starter is brand new & my battery is just over a year old, but I have to say that the car has never ever kicked over like this.

The bad news is that I forgot to ask him for the part# to pass on. I will try to get that if anyone here is interested. BTW I'm in Toronto and I got it at cost for $120CAD. Was only $30 more than a rebuilt.

Hope this helps!

craig10114

got the same starter from Jeff at Max Tuning.....the differnce is amazing. BTW the real differnce is that the internals from the new starter are out of the 5th generation and 6th gens. and the casing is from a 4th gen. It is from nissan design but i dont know if the ones u or i got are OEM or just OEM replica

95bluse

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I agree, the guy at the shop did tell me it works on 2000 Maxes. He also said that he sells them to guys that build high-compression race engines Whatever it is, looks like it a darn good starter.

RockfordMax

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please try to get the part #! my starter is about a month away from dying, ive done so much to try to save it, but on most days, 3-4 seconds of cranking to start... its embarassing in a parking lot.

One Crazy Max

i want a new starter. i hate the wait and the sound the stock starter makes..

RockfordMax

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exactly what i was trying to say thank you crazy

DAVE Sz

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More powerful starter? Ok, he's probably talking about the one with the 10-tooth gears as opposed to the old 8-tooth one.

vortechpower

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Find out the part #!

95bluse

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That's the one, though I believe that there has been internal changes also ( windings/stator etc) making it more 'powerful" so to speak.

I'll see if I can get the part number from the shop.

95bluse

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Just spoke to the shop, and they said it's imported from the US, but won't give out a part #. I guess they are trying to protect their business since they normally sell to mechanics only. The only thing they mentioned is that it's the new "high-torque" starter for the max.

Sorry guys...maybe a google search will turn up something for you guys in the US?

DAVE Sz

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The 8 tooth one isn't made anymore as it was replced with the 10 tooth. Go to nissan dealer and you'll get he 10 tooth one or jusk ask for the part number.

95bluse

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I wasn't aware of 10 vs 8-tooth issue because I've always used rebuilt starters, so Davesz is most likely correct. I did a quick search and this link:
http://verizonsupersite.com/4alterst...rtcom/starters

MAXRB8

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So let me get this straight, if we pickup a 10 tooth from where ever we've got the right starter? Or is there more to it than that?

DAVE Sz

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That's it, nothing more to it. As I said before I'm always right, most of the time.

MAXRB8

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"Most of the time" doesn't that make you wrong one more time?

and isn't it 10 teeth as in plural? Not 10 tooth!
oops wrong again!

but hey all kidding a side thanks for the tip, I'll definitely make sure I get a 10 tooth/teeth ( whatever) when my starter dies!

DAVE Sz

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10 teeth doesn't sound right in that instance. A 10-tooth design sounds fine, 10-teeth design doesn't.

RockfordMax

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hmm i like dem dere 10 teef starturs yay dey mak my ngin goh vroom fastuh

Armelius

Correctly it's ten teeth. You don't say, he lost his two front tooth.

Broaner

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Any starter that works in a 4th gen will work in a 5.0 gen.

95bluse

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I think that if you go to a dealer and buy a NEW starter, chances are you'll get the 10-teethed variety. However, if you go the rebuild route with a supplier of your choice, they'll give you the crappy-slow turning older one. But then again I've been known to be wrong ( albeit rarely)

DAVE Sz

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No **** einstein, you're one of the smart ones aren't you? I doubt you would say a 10 teeth gear opposed to a 10 tooth gear. You'd say a gear with 10 teeth but that's common sense smarty. It just doesn't sound right. Either way, you're not helping so shut up.

Armelius

Chicago is cold now isn't it? brrrrr

DAVE Sz

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? Yes, it is. Why? Wanna come by or something? Is that supposed to be a threat or do you like being Captain Obvious?

Guttermouf5150

why is this guy allowed to talk?

DAVE Sz

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ANother one. What did I do now? I said something to you a few months ago and now you feel the need to chime in for no reason?

chenzarino

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Dave is right it would be 10 tooth, whenever referencing a sprocket it is tooth, not teeth. Teeth are in your face.

Armelius

Lol.

deezo

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I have 10 Tooths and 1 teeth.

I wish those starters weren't Lester or Hitachi. I think I'm going to try to find another, better brand.

MAXRB8

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Bah! ha! ha!, Let's face it the English language has been hacked so badly anything goes, it's nothing to do with sprockets or the "teeth in your face", if you only had one you still don't have teeth in your face you have a tooth! Besides they're in your mouth!! It's a case on singular tooth and plural teeth, so anything with more than one should be teeth, but like many things in the english language what sounds right and what is are two different things, but hey we've learned that..... CORRECTLY PHRASED.... a starter with 10 teeth! is the starter of choice!! (not a starter with 10 tooth) it's all about the grammar!

Intensions are what it's about and thanks to Dave Sz knowledge we are all better off and thats what this forum is about, even though he does have a tendency to rub people the wrong way

VeeQueue

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I have a used starter from a 2000 Max on my car. It has 25k or so miles and it starts up instantly and does not have abnormal noises. Best $20 I've ever spent. auto/5speed uses the same starter.

FormorAccordMan

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Thats funny

SDot82

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I almost died laughing when I read this.

eturnl

Cant you pull the part number off the starter itself?!

JwaxMax99

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I know what you mean. Today I put in the 11 tooth starter. WOW. Car never started this quickly!

oVeRdOsE

Sorry to broke this chain of english courses, but if I want a new starter, I just need to ask for a 10 teeth starter, thats it? And it will be a fast one, no matter what. All the 10 teeth are fast?

Thanks