Beautiful car man, and thanks for the info. I think I will go with those wheels.
Thanks again
ttyl on the org.
Jeff

 

Does anyone know if the Springs that come with the Tokico Illumina Strut/Spring kits advertised on Ebay are different in anyway from the Springs that come with the Tokico Illumina Strut/Spring kit from Custom Enterprises?

Ebay kit price is $495.00 and the CE kit price is $609.00

ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

CE: http://www.customenterprise.com/view.../vts/design004

 

i got my like last week from same seler brand new i love it you gonna get same thing from ce just $100 more with shiping i paid $547 got them installed i love it
go check it out
http://www.sounddomain.com/id/103100

 

Thanks for the information, I called CE to find out if it is the same kit as the deal on ebay and they said it was. Your car look great!

 

Guys, will a system make the Illumina/H&R's sag in the rear? Just curious, because from all the pics I've seen throughout this Thread, they look a tiny bit raked...

 

Weight in your trunk will cause the rear to sit lower.
How much weight will determine how much lower.

It's called gravity.

 

not for me my front is lover than back i'll have some good pics tomorow

 

It might be car specific... but I've had 4 Tokico's fail on older Nissan 300ZX (Z31 model), and I've had them squeak horribly on the next generation 300ZX (Z32). They constantly blow seals if you keep them at the firmer settings for extended track/autox/sporty use... on the softest setting, yes they might last a while. I've never heard of any such problems with KYB AGX adjustable shocks however. I've had a set on my Z32 at about the middle settings (3/5) and they've been on the car for almost 3yrs/40k miles, haven't had a single problem.

But that's personal experience, I've never seen them fail on a Maxima, but I'll never install them on one either so...

 

Regardless of the shock/strut it's the springs controlling the height, I can't comment on the H&R's as I have Eibach pro's with Illuminas but mine sits exactly level both front and rears measured the same. 26.8" I believe but don't quote me. And I run around with an approx 40 lbs sub box, which I imagine is light enough not to affect the springs.

 

Yeah, no sh*t.

Thanks to the other 2 guys: S1 and MAXRB8 Def. post some pics, would love to see.

 

No problem

 

Bringing this thread to life. A lot of good info.

How does the H&R springs compare with Tein Stech and Htech?

Someone mentioned in the previous pages that Teins will make you lose suspension travel...how is that?

 

H&R and Ilumina's in the mail to me, will post when installed. Reason I went H&R is because my wife still drives the car and has no awarness of curbs, speedbumps, potholes, roadkill, parking stops, etc. My passenger side rocker panel is evidence to that, and she nailed that with the stock 4x4 setup! We just picked up a Pathfinder, will be interesting to see what she can do to destroy that #$@#!!

* * * T E A M G R E Y H A I R * * *

 

I would also like to see how the Tein Stechs with illumina's or H&R's with illumina look like. Also...how would these setups(Tein Stechs/Illumina's or H&R's/illuminas) feel with the maxed being packed with people...and the trunk being filled up with baggage (I.E. going camping with the max).

 

Check my homepage - H&R and Illumina's on the car for about 3 weeks. Currently set at the '2' setting, stiff but not overbearing. Old-man drop fits my eye better than the slammed look and handling is 99.9% better. 17" G35 rims and new rubber will complete the package *soon*.

 

The ebay link is long dead, and the CE link does not specify what kind of springs one gets.

BTW, Since my financial situation has not changed, I am still selling my brand new set of Illuminas for $400 shipped and a brand new set of Tein H-Techs for $175 shipped. Both are still sealed in their original boxes.

PM me if interested.

 

konis!

 

sorry, just got into this thread but are the maxspeed springs any different from the h&r's? I'm changing my kybs to illuminas and was wondering if i should stick with my maxspeed springs or get the recommended h&r springs.

 

ok... may be i should start a new thread... but does anyone have anything to say about tokico HPK suspension kit or tein basic coilover kit? i still have h&rs on stock struts on my 98 max, they'r kinda ok(due to 205/65/15 tires + hubcups? ), but my wf's 5th gen with the same setup rides BAD... actually so bad that i hate it :-( And her car has really wierd drop too...

 

Outside of Koni, I don't think there is any spectacular shock available for our cars...

But the Konis are such a hassle.... with lack of external adjustability in the rear and having to hack open the front shocks to add the inserts. But once all sorted out, its probably the best shock.

But they do have somewhat of a digressive response... meaning more forgiving with a strong impact but more stiff for low speed motion like body roll.

Comfort is all relative.
It depends on the road.

Caltrans just got done repaving a lot of highway 101 in the San Jose area. Nice smooth surface with very low road noise. If we had those kind of roads everywhere, then any suspension and aggressive tires would work.

If we had Konis more accessible or even Bilstein shocks for our cars, then it might be a different story.

The Maxima simply has way too much unsprung weight for a really good ride quality.
It doesn't help having around 80 pounds of rear beam axle unsprung weight when an independent setup would have cut that weight around half. The front end is fairly crude as well.


Plus the car has a fairly flimsy platform by today's standards...
The car was NEVER designed to be a sports sedan, despite the "4-door sports car" marketing. it was designed to be a comfortable cruiser and that is all.

 

I have H&R springs and AGX's on my max. I am not dissatisfied. The handling is fantastic, but the ride is a little stiff, and I only have them set on 1. When I pull a bass boat I set the rears to 2. The car rides better when I pull the boat. Some of that is getting the tire pressures correct though. A lot of guys run more air than is required. I found tha 30 front and 26 rear with 17" wheels and 225-45 Michelin Pilots gives a good ride and great handling. More air gets very bouncy and harsh. I doubt that I will ever wear these AGX's out, but I would try the Illuminas if I had it to do over.

jjam

 

alright I have 2 questions. all lowered cars, with plus size wheels do u always return your original wheels back on(a size lower) during the winter or do u keep plus sizes like all year. reason is I wnt to get 17s, lowered and ride all year round with them. second question is I read that the AGX ride quality gt very harsh during the winter/cold season would that b a wise purchase considering the weather condition

 

Very well said!

Based on what the OP is looking for, I think Illuminas (no personal experience) and H&R (no personal experience) is prob the safest route to go. Full coilover setup would be good too. I had Sprints with AGX and have to admit I ABSOLUTLY LOVED the look and handling (on smooth roads), BUT even with a well trimmed bump stop, road irregularities and speed bump/back alley scraping can get tiresome... BTW, Sprints leave the back a little higher so I got a rear coil cut and it helped balanced the car out on turns and made a noticeably improvement in ride comfort.

Now I have Vogtland with AGX and am quite content. I have no desire for a soft ride so the Illumina/H&R combo did not appeal to me but that’s my preference. I have Bilsteins on my Miata and they are GREAT. Too bad they don’t make shocks for the Max

People who have/had experiences with both Illuminas and AGXs will give much better feedback then those who’ve only experienced one shock (like myself). I'm not saying AGX is fantastic but they are not bad either; good for the money.

 

I heard that VOGTLAND springs are favorites among audi guys. Haven't seen much info regarding these on a max, any thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissa...spagenameZWD1V

 

I'd say they are more on the stiff side then soft side and requires a good pair of shocks to match. I 'think' they would be better suited if paried with Konis and possibly Illuminas since they damper better (if I recall correctly) then AGXs. The only setup I've tried is Stock > Sprints+AGX > Vogtland+AGX so i can't really comment how it compares to H&R or Tein, etc... Drop is pretty balance, what I refer to as the BMW drop/look

 

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