rear sway bar????
01-31-2005, 09:39 AM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 402
reducing understeer in any vehicle will change the way it acts in the snow. I'd wait. I havent had any problems in the snow with my stock maxima now(17inches so far), but i wouldnt want to find my new limits in the snow untill ive found them on dry surfaces first. Besides, its much too cold to be workin on cars 
01-31-2005, 10:57 AM
#7
ok people say RSB makes the tail end "happy" can someone please elaborate on this please explain better i thought i knew guess i dont cause i have a sway bar and even in the wet my rear stays planted
01-31-2005, 11:18 AM
#8
I'll explain the sway bar in normal conditions and then you can figure it out for the snow. A sway bar, in essence, links your two rear tires together. There is actually a lot of physics involved here, and I am a physics major, but i'll try to keep it in normal terms. When you turn left, the tendency of your car is to put more pressure and stress on your outer tires, and for the car to lean to the outside of the turn. What the sway bar does, is minimize the lean that happens to the body of the car. There is energy in the car that makes it want to lean, but the sway bar keeps the body from leaning. The energy has to go somewhere though, so it puts your tread under more strain to keep the car from fishtailing. In most cases, you're not going to turn hard enough or fast enough to get the rear tires to break loose, especially in a fwd car. The benefit of the sway bar is that since the body doesn't roll as much, it is easier to bring it back to center. As in, when the car rocks to the left, it has to rock back to the right to level the suspension again. The sway bar makes it so you have less mass and suspension to recover. you probably won't notice this under normal driving conditions, but when you start driving harder and the car leans more you will notice that it is easier to aim the car straight ahead after turning, especially while doing multiple turns in both directions (like an s-turn).
Long story short, the sway bar minimizes body roll and makes it easier to point the car forward again or to go from a left turn to a right turn. This however, puts more strain on the tires and tread to maintain grip. when there is ice or snow on the road, it is already easier for the tires to slip, and with a sway bar, you may be giving your car that extra nudge to slide out that it didn't have without the sway bar.
Under normal driving conditions this shouldn't make any difference whatsoever, and might make driving in the snow more fun when you want. It's all about knowing how to control your car and knowing it's limits. Installing a sway bar in the snow could be a good thing because it will help you learn its limits so you can drive it harder when the weather clears up.
I see however that you are in PA, so i would take the lazy way out. In my opinion its too cold to work on my car right now.
my $.10
Ed
Long story short, the sway bar minimizes body roll and makes it easier to point the car forward again or to go from a left turn to a right turn. This however, puts more strain on the tires and tread to maintain grip. when there is ice or snow on the road, it is already easier for the tires to slip, and with a sway bar, you may be giving your car that extra nudge to slide out that it didn't have without the sway bar.
Under normal driving conditions this shouldn't make any difference whatsoever, and might make driving in the snow more fun when you want. It's all about knowing how to control your car and knowing it's limits. Installing a sway bar in the snow could be a good thing because it will help you learn its limits so you can drive it harder when the weather clears up.
I see however that you are in PA, so i would take the lazy way out. In my opinion its too cold to work on my car right now.
my $.10
Ed
01-31-2005, 11:49 AM
#10
I have yet to slide my tail out since I have gotten my RSB. It makes the car a lot more fun to drive. I'de say get it whenever you have the money. Just don't drive like a ******* in the snow and you should be fine. 
01-31-2005, 04:06 PM
#15
Originally Posted by recardeeps222
I'll explain the sway bar in normal conditions and then you can figure it out for the snow. A sway bar, in essence, links your two rear tires together. There is actually a lot of physics involved here, and I am a physics major, but i'll try to keep it in normal terms. When you turn left, the tendency of your car is to put more pressure and stress on your outer tires, and for the car to lean to the outside of the turn. What the sway bar does, is minimize the lean that happens to the body of the car. There is energy in the car that makes it want to lean, but the sway bar keeps the body from leaning. The energy has to go somewhere though, so it puts your tread under more strain to keep the car from fishtailing. In most cases, you're not going to turn hard enough or fast enough to get the rear tires to break loose, especially in a fwd car. The benefit of the sway bar is that since the body doesn't roll as much, it is easier to bring it back to center. As in, when the car rocks to the left, it has to rock back to the right to level the suspension again. The sway bar makes it so you have less mass and suspension to recover. you probably won't notice this under normal driving conditions, but when you start driving harder and the car leans more you will notice that it is easier to aim the car straight ahead after turning, especially while doing multiple turns in both directions (like an s-turn).
Long story short, the sway bar minimizes body roll and makes it easier to point the car forward again or to go from a left turn to a right turn. This however, puts more strain on the tires and tread to maintain grip. when there is ice or snow on the road, it is already easier for the tires to slip, and with a sway bar, you may be giving your car that extra nudge to slide out that it didn't have without the sway bar.
Under normal driving conditions this shouldn't make any difference whatsoever, and might make driving in the snow more fun when you want. It's all about knowing how to control your car and knowing it's limits. Installing a sway bar in the snow could be a good thing because it will help you learn its limits so you can drive it harder when the weather clears up.
I see however that you are in PA, so i would take the lazy way out. In my opinion its too cold to work on my car right now.
my $.10
Ed
Long story short, the sway bar minimizes body roll and makes it easier to point the car forward again or to go from a left turn to a right turn. This however, puts more strain on the tires and tread to maintain grip. when there is ice or snow on the road, it is already easier for the tires to slip, and with a sway bar, you may be giving your car that extra nudge to slide out that it didn't have without the sway bar.
Under normal driving conditions this shouldn't make any difference whatsoever, and might make driving in the snow more fun when you want. It's all about knowing how to control your car and knowing it's limits. Installing a sway bar in the snow could be a good thing because it will help you learn its limits so you can drive it harder when the weather clears up.
I see however that you are in PA, so i would take the lazy way out. In my opinion its too cold to work on my car right now.
my $.10
Ed
i hate not being able to work on my car without freezing my A$$ off... it makes sense for you just to wait it out till the winter ends
01-31-2005, 04:12 PM
#16
Originally Posted by recardeeps222
i don't know what that is, can you post a link?
how good does this work most of it is what he says anyone here have it on their max please share experience and also how does it looked underneath the car
01-31-2005, 04:26 PM
#17
Originally Posted by naijai
how good does this work most of it is what he says anyone here have it on their max please share experience and also how does it looked underneath the car
01-31-2005, 04:45 PM
#20
Rollin' on 'Caps
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 425
Originally Posted by Caracicatriz
I have yet to slide my tail out since I have gotten my RSB. It makes the car a lot more fun to drive. I'de say get it whenever you have the money. Just don't drive like a ******* in the snow and you should be fine.
I've had my progress RSB on the stiffest setting all winter now (Grand Rapids gets a lot of snow + ice in the winter due to the lake), and I've had zero problems whatsoever. Just don't drive like a maniac and you should be fine, but it's all up to you when you want to get it.
01-31-2005, 07:36 PM
#22
Originally Posted by naijai
does anyone have the stage 2 bar seems no ground clearance lost with that one
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