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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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RSB and ride comfort

I've heard a few people mention that an RSB will make the ride harsher. I wanted to get more opinions on this topic.

If I'm only interested in ride comfort and not racing, should I skip the RSB?
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Probably might want to skip it... overall, its just supposed to stiffen the chassis... so its less able to flex at the shock towers when driving over uneven surfaces... so in that right, yes, it would make the ride a little harsher...
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by KaZ
Probably might want to skip it... overall, its just supposed to stiffen the chassis... so its less able to flex at the shock towers when driving over uneven surfaces... so in that right, yes, it would make the ride a little harsher...
So much wrong with that post...
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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rear sway bar reduces body roll in the car, and keeps the car more level versus taking a hard corner and your on your door handles till you straightened out.

RSB has little to no effect on straight roads or bumpy roads, its only benificial when turning.
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
So much wrong with that post...
Well correct me with what exactly I said that was wrong? I never said it was a HUGE deal... nor did I state where/when it would have such effects... I simply stated what might happen... normally a car would flex at the shock/strut towers over bumps/uneven surfaces etc... a bar there would help prevent flex... what did I say that was so incorrect? If the chassis didn't flex as designed, it would make the ride a "little" harsher would it not?
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KaZ
Well correct me with what exactly I said that was wrong?

ok...


Originally Posted by KaZ
Probably might want to skip it... overall, its just supposed to stiffen the chassis...
It does not stiffen the chassis (body). It stiffens the beam axle.

so its less able to flex at the shock towers when driving over uneven surfaces...
It stiffens the beam so it does not flex as easily. This limits body roll. It has nothing to do with the shock towers.

so in that right, yes, it would make the ride a little harsher...
If it DID stiffen the body (chassis...shock towers), it would make the ride seem smoother. A stiffer chassis lets the suspension do the work, instead of the body flexing over bumps. This means less shock (harshness) is transferred to the occupants.

That said, the RSB can increase ride harshness. If the rear beam is too stiff, the whole back end of the car gets pulled into one wheel bumps. This makes the ride rougher.
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Ok, yup, I was wrong... (I'm on some meds at the moment, so forgive me on this on) I read that as REAR STRUT BAR, not sway bar... lol. I was wondering why MDeezy was talking about sway bars... yes, everything I said was backwards... I'm guessing strut bar would have been RSTB... d'oh. I'm owned... thank you, drive through. But what I said might be correct for a RSTB. =) (minor attempt to pick myself up off the floor)
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wayman
I've heard a few people mention that an RSB will make the ride harsher. I wanted to get more opinions on this topic.

If I'm only interested in ride comfort and not racing, should I skip the RSB?
maybe KaZ is talking about the strut bar? i dunno.

but a rsb would just keep the rear of the car planted when taking turns just like MDeezy said hence the term anti-sway.

one thing you can do is goto the westcoast forum and ask someome for a ride. im sure some daygo peoples will be happy to.
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
maybe KaZ is talking about the strut bar? i dunno.

but a rsb would just keep the rear of the car planted when taking turns just like MDeezy said hence the term anti-sway.

one thing you can do is goto the westcoast forum and ask someome for a ride. im sure some daygo peoples will be happy to.
Yeah, I was obviously not reading the TLA correctly... lol... (three letter acronym). I'll make sure I understand what exactly I'm talking about (part wise) before I post something... lol. I was staring at his reply saying I was wrong and I was like *?* lol... go figure. I'm still asleep from this weekend... lol
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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anything that stiffens your suspension will effect your ride quality. it makes a big difference with your handling, but your ride over bumps and potholes will be more harsh. if anyone tells you different, there wrong. here is a very simple way to think about it... the more stiff you make your suspension, that stress has to get transfered to other parts of the car. so lets say you start off with the rsb, then add a frtb... next youll wanna lower your car, and probably go with either h&r, or eibach springs, and stiffer struts.. the h&r's are 30% stiffer than stock, the eibach's a 50% stiffer. you'll also have the stiffer struts, and then have strut braces to eliminate the flex in the front and rear of the car, along with the rsb.. now, when you driving, and slamming into potholes cause your stiffened up all the travel, and flex in your suspension, all that stress get tranfered into the middle of your car. this is why, everyone on here, (including myslef), complains about how much the inside of the car rattles... if i could do it all over again, the VERY FIRST THING i would have gotten, is the sub-frame connector kit from warpspeed. it improves your handling, and ride comfort by stiffening your frame, and allowing the suspension to do its job. i am currently waiting for the new kits to be available, along with a few other people. i strongly suggest you read the theard about the kits.. im on my second 4th gen, and i wish these were around for a while when i first got the my first one. want my advice, do you frame first, see how u like it, and then if you wanna drive like your on rails, THEN start doin your suspension..
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuntin' 101
anything that stiffens your suspension will effect your ride quality. it makes a big difference with your handling, but your ride over bumps and potholes will be more harsh. if anyone tells you different, there wrong. here is a very simple way to think about it... the more stiff you make your suspension, that stress has to get transfered to other parts of the car. so lets say you start off with the rsb, then add a frtb... next youll wanna lower your car, and probably go with either h&r, or eibach springs, and stiffer struts.. the h&r's are 30% stiffer than stock, the eibach's a 50% stiffer. you'll also have the stiffer struts, and then have strut braces to eliminate the flex in the front and rear of the car, along with the rsb.. now, when you driving, and slamming into potholes cause your stiffened up all the travel, and flex in your suspension, all that stress get tranfered into the middle of your car. this is why, everyone on here, (including myslef), complains about how much the inside of the car rattles... if i could do it all over again, the VERY FIRST THING i would have gotten, is the sub-frame connector kit from warpspeed. it improves your handling, and ride comfort by stiffening your frame, and allowing the suspension to do its job. i am currently waiting for the new kits to be available, along with a few other people. i strongly suggest you read the theard about the kits.. im on my second 4th gen, and i wish these were around for a while when i first got the my first one. want my advice, do you frame first, see how u like it, and then if you wanna drive like your on rails, THEN start doin your suspension..
It is recomended SFC's are installed as a LAST suspension mod. Go look on warpspeeds site. The dont recomend installing them unless you have pretty much every suspension bolt on.

I wouldnt get these first...
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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i hate my rsb it doesnt do much since we have a rear beam axle there isnt much swaying anyway. the rsb also adds weight and i didnt notice any big difference with it installed except for a bumpier ride in the rear.
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Well alright, I have both a FSTB and RSB installed (and no lowering springs/struts/other suspension stuff), and I haven't noticed a harsher ride, the ride felt as smooth as ever after installation.

Now, that's not to say it doesn't actually get a tiny bit harsher or whatever, I just didn't notice anything.
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Well alright, I have both a FSTB and RSB installed (and no lowering springs/struts/other suspension stuff), and I haven't noticed a harsher ride, the ride felt as smooth as ever after installation.

Now, that's not to say it doesn't actually get a tiny bit harsher or whatever, I just didn't notice anything.
thats beacause you have the two mildest suspension mods available. rstb makes about no noticable difference in your car. a rsb will make a big, very noticable difference in your handling, but if you plan on lowering your car, and getting bigger rims you cars ride will be VERY harsh. also, i recomend getting the sfc now because of the reasons i stated above, and becuase most people that get the sfc, wind up taking off there rsb anyway. im telling you.. ive been through this whole process already and i know what its going to do to your car
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Great info guys, thanks.

I plan on the HP's with stock springs, no lowering.

So based on what has been said so far, a FSTB and/or RSB is going to stiffen my ride so if I'm mainly concerned with ride comfort then I might want to skip these mods.

While I don't yet have a RSB (doesn't seem like I should get one), I've already bought a FSTB. I think I'm going to get the Tokico HP's and drive with those and then add the FSTB afterwards to see how it affects my type of driving. It's an easy bolt-on so it will be an easy experiment. Looks like I'll skip the RSB.

Thanks everyone.
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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if you plan on never lowering your car then a RSB would be ideal, but the effect the RSB is lost when the car gets lowered, that car physically cant roll as much since it would have a lower center of gravity.
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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It is recomended SFC's are installed as a LAST suspension mod. Go look on warpspeeds site. The dont recomend installing them unless you have pretty much every suspension bolt on.

I wouldnt get these first...
ive been on warpspeeds site, and ive been reading up and asking questions about these for weeks now.. if you read the review on wsp's site, youll notice the owner stating how much better his cars ride was after the install, along with the handling improvments. i suggest doing this first for him, becuase he already stated that having his ride comfort affected is a concern, plus it is much more beneficial to the cars cabin, and driver comfort to reiforce it now, rather than everything else first. if you do the sfc last, your buying somethin to correct the unwanted side effects from stiffening your suspension. at this point, the damage to your cabin is already being done, as its being twisted everytime you make a turn, and hit a bump in the road. if you read the thread on the sfc, you will also notice many people taking there RSB OFF after getting them. like i said, ive gone through this hole process twice, and both cars rattled like it was a 76 trans am from after doing all the other mods first. im trying to save him from going through the same aggrivation and tourment that me, and alot of other people go through everytime they drive there car.
its nice to read about all the mods, and how great they make your car handle, and thats what gets you sucked into buying all these things. you start off small, buying the cheaper things, and gradually get more and more.. After a while though, alot of people realize all they did was spend alot of money to make there cars ride like ****, and rattle so much it drives them crazy everytime they drive it.. just like me..
Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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if you also read the thread on here about them, the sfc will give you a better ride quality, and better handling at the same time.. its like killing two birds with one stone. look into it. ride with and without them is suppose to be like night and day
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that is what you get for questioning the knowledge of someone with almost 13000 posts Kaz....
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