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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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question about plastic sheet between door and interior panel

For those who have taken off the door panels, you'll know that theres the plastic protectant sheet glued onto the metal of the door. When I'm playing music and there is some bass hitting decently hard, it makes a farting/rattling noise. This is due to the pressure from the speaker and the plastic enclosure. What can I do to make the plastic stop rattling? I know you shouldn't rip it off. I already tried putting a lot of foam strips around there so when putting the panel back on, it would press on the plastic, but it still buzzes along with the music. Any help would be appreciated.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Strange I've never had that problem...are you certain it is the plastic?
Have you tried 'tightening' the plastic?

What kind of speakers are you running to even create a problem?


If all else fails then maybe you should be using dynomat?
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Strange I've never had that problem...are you certain it is the plastic?
Have you tried 'tightening' the plastic?

What kind of speakers are you running to even create a problem?


If all else fails then maybe you should be using dynomat?
It is the plastic. I played music with the interior panel off and it clearly is the air created by the speaker rustling the plastic. I'm running stock Bose all on the mid settings for treble and bass. I can dynamat, but would that reduce the air being pushed out by the speakers?
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Seal off the enclosures? Seriously I haven't heard of anyone having the problem...maybe ask this in the audio forum.

Sorry.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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I've never heard of this either, my plastic is still there as well.... unless you re seal it back down into place... maybe theres a hole or "leak" thats causing it to flutter?
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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hmm. im about to rip it out... i'll check with the audio guys.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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If you rip it out, your speakers and electrical components in there are gonna be short lived.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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true. gonna keep my temper to the side. man, just when you start loving your car again, something else goes weird.
btw i can't get over your car bro. hot. i'm really considering doing my sawblades like that too.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Happens to me all the time with my car... whenever I start loving something about it, something else goes wrong... I've learned to deal with it. For some reason I still think it isnt glued down properly and some air is escaping causing that sound...


Thanks for the compliment
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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go to any decent Audio retail store (Walmart, Pepboys, Circut City...) they should have some plastic enclosures that mount behind the speaker so its like a little speaker box, so the air from the speaker won't be putting pressure on the plastic sheet or door panel.

I'v never had to use there, but i'v seen them before and i guess thats what their designed for.

they would also work good on the back dash if your subs are distorting your rear speakers.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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I had foam enclosures for my speakers in another car. Since they're in the door they experience more weather exposure... cold, heat, moisture, etc. So the foam enclosure protects them and should fix your flutter problem since the speaker will no longer be affecting the air within the door.

I got the foam enclosures from Crutchfield.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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i have rips and tears all over my plastic sheets, i dont even think half the **** is even glued, and ive never heard anything like this.. i have a diamond audio amp running studio drivers in my fronts, that are pushing out alot more than your stocks are. correct me if im wrong, but the mids are already in a hard plastic housing sealed off from the doors.. how can this be? i cant see any way how this can be your problem..
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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this is why im posting i wish i could shoot a video of it. its not as annoying wiht the windows down though. ill learn to live with it. bah
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
If you rip it out, your speakers and electrical components in there are gonna be short lived.
Please explain how they are going to be short lived.I took mine off a long time ago.The only thing i could see afected by this would be the door panel and that is a slim chance.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Please explain how they are going to be short lived.I took mine off a long time ago.The only thing i could see afected by this would be the door panel and that is a slim chance.
i have a feeling that he thinks these sheets are keeping water or moisture out..
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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i removed my sheets with no problems and theyve been out for a long time. anyways, foam enclosures should fix this problem. i seriously doubt that its the sheeting though.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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those plastic sheets are vapor barriers so mold and doodie doesnt grow inside your car.

Why dont you just get a big piece of duct tape and some roofing felt and make your own dynamat.

Its covered by the door panel. Nobody will know it is ugly.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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I've had mine off for nearly two years with no problems.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticrockford
Please explain how they are going to be short lived.I took mine off a long time ago.The only thing i could see afected by this would be the door panel and that is a slim chance.
Its called moisture
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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the plastic covers the wiring placing the wiring on the inside of the door, if any water is getting in, its from the outer window seal, which would put it on the same side as the wiring. its not protecting anything.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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So how does the plastic affect moisture?
Theres going to be moisture no matter if theres plastic or not.
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I guess you've never heard of humidity.. there is no fresh air icirculating behind the door panels.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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go to any decent Audio retail store (Walmart, Pepboys, Circut City...)
haha those aren't decent audio retail stores that was funny
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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I guess you've never heard of humidity.. there is no fresh air icirculating behind the door panels.
I'm sorry i questioned your reasoning. I will however beleive myself and 2 other people that do not have the plastic on with no problems.Than with someone that says there will be condensation and humidity.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Over time it happens, especially if you mount your crossovers in your doors, then you'll be in bad shape for sure.
Old Feb 23, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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sorry ant but my crossovers are in door, and have been for about a year or so. i live in florida and humidity is given. yet i still have no problems.
Old Feb 23, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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cant we all just get along??? Well, this is what I planned to do, since i'm low on funds. next sunny day I get, i'll get some foam/rubber mats and some spray adhesive, and put it on the plastic. it's only like a 5 x 5 inch area below the tweeter that farts. if that whole ghetto rubber matting doesn't work, I'm going to buy that weather sealing plastic where u tape it off and blowdry it so it shrinks and makes a tight seal. in the meantime, stop fighting! it aches me haha.
Old Feb 23, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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The sheet does nothing to protect humidity and it can protect from liquid state water but its more of a precaution. There are holes at the bottom of the door to drain out water. This means the area is not air or water tight. It is there as a precaution to stop water that enters at the bottom of the window from dripping onto stuff. I have insulation between my door panels and sheet metal. I recently looked at it(the insulation) and there is no evidence of it contacting any water and there is no mold or mildew.
Old Feb 23, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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solution- get better speakers.
Old Feb 23, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Whats funny is everyone wants to hear what sounds good to them... not the truth.

Ask anyone in the audio forum what taking off the plastic and mounting your x overs in the door will do.
Old Feb 23, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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It will make them sound better with a possibility of shortening their life.
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