Vibration and Howling Noise in 5 speed SE
#1
I purchased a Nissan Certified 97 Maxima SE 5 speed about 5 weeks ago. The dealership was kind enough to let me have the car for a test ride overnight. Upon returning the car, I noticed when in traffic, the clutch would let out a medium pitched groan when I was stuck in traffic. Since I liked the car, I told the dealership I would take it as long as they either fixed the car or guaranteed me there was nothing wrong with it. Well, this Monday, I took it to the dealership because it not only has this groaning intermittently, it also has some chattering, or vibrating intermittently when I let the clutch out. It isn't really bad, nor does it do it all the time. But, it is annoying! I just spoke to my dealership and they just told me this is normal. I really find this VERY HARD to believe. Maybe in a cheap car, but never should it be like this in a Maxima. Have any of you had a similar experience? Is the dealership just trying to get out of fixing it? I am going to tell them today that if they don't know what it is, they should just replace the whole clutch. Please let me know if you have any suggestions!!!!!
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I have a 97 GXE 5-speed. I'm not sure what the sound you're hearing is, but I'm pretty sure it's not normal. I have yet to hear anything like that in my car.
How many miles are on the car? Do you know if it is the original clutch?
I also hope you got them to sign something that says they will fix whatever is/was causing that noise. Otherwise they will try everthing to not fix it for free.
How many miles are on the car? Do you know if it is the original clutch?
I also hope you got them to sign something that says they will fix whatever is/was causing that noise. Otherwise they will try everthing to not fix it for free.
#3
I also have a 97 SE 5spd. I also have a "groan" like you describe. I don't think it's the clutch, cause it doesn't change when engaging/disengaging the clutch. Does yours? I had a leak at the right axle seal, and after the dealer replaced it twice and still leaked, Nissan had them open the tranny to find bearings worn. They repaired at no cost. Also replaced clutch. I paid for clutch, but was a deal cause no labor. My clutch had the "chatter" or grabby thing mainly noticed from a standing start. Boy was the new clutch light. Amazing how you get used to slow degredation. But I don't know what my groan is, seems like an accessory. Sounds almost like hydraulics going thru a pressure relief. What is it?
#4
Maxima Clutch Groan
Originally posted by lancems007
I purchased a Nissan Certified 97 Maxima SE 5 speed about 5 weeks ago. The dealership was kind enough to let me have the car for a test ride overnight. Upon returning the car, I noticed when in traffic, the clutch would let out a medium pitched groan when I was stuck in traffic. Since I liked the car, I told the dealership I would take it as long as they either fixed the car or guaranteed me there was nothing wrong with it. Well, this Monday, I took it to the dealership because it not only has this groaning intermittently, it also has some chattering, or vibrating intermittently when I let the clutch out. It isn't really bad, nor does it do it all the time. But, it is annoying! I just spoke to my dealership and they just told me this is normal. I really find this VERY HARD to believe. Maybe in a cheap car, but never should it be like this in a Maxima. Have any of you had a similar experience? Is the dealership just trying to get out of fixing it? I am going to tell them today that if they don't know what it is, they should just replace the whole clutch. Please let me know if you have any suggestions!!!!!
I purchased a Nissan Certified 97 Maxima SE 5 speed about 5 weeks ago. The dealership was kind enough to let me have the car for a test ride overnight. Upon returning the car, I noticed when in traffic, the clutch would let out a medium pitched groan when I was stuck in traffic. Since I liked the car, I told the dealership I would take it as long as they either fixed the car or guaranteed me there was nothing wrong with it. Well, this Monday, I took it to the dealership because it not only has this groaning intermittently, it also has some chattering, or vibrating intermittently when I let the clutch out. It isn't really bad, nor does it do it all the time. But, it is annoying! I just spoke to my dealership and they just told me this is normal. I really find this VERY HARD to believe. Maybe in a cheap car, but never should it be like this in a Maxima. Have any of you had a similar experience? Is the dealership just trying to get out of fixing it? I am going to tell them today that if they don't know what it is, they should just replace the whole clutch. Please let me know if you have any suggestions!!!!!
My '99 GXE (25K miles, bought new, gently driven) has MCG and occasional chatter. I regard the clutch as a low point in an otherwise fine car. If this clutch ever wears out I will not replace it with Nissan factory parts.
#5
Yep - that's the infamous Maxima Clutch Groan
It happens intermittently. The vibrating happens only under some conditions- cars cold, etc. Get a strut brace and the groan goes away -or moves to another frequency - if the vibration is excessive you could fix it by beating the $h%t out of the stock clutch and replace it with aftermarket.
Problems solved. Don't put anything OEM back on the car. It's expensive and not half as good as aftermarket stuff.
Other than those minor faults this is a beautiful car.
Problems solved. Don't put anything OEM back on the car. It's expensive and not half as good as aftermarket stuff.
Other than those minor faults this is a beautiful car.
#6
My clutch only does this when I engage it. It doesn't do it all the time either. It either chatters (vibrates slightly) or makes that moaning groaning kind of noise when I engage it. I just ****es me off because I have such an awesome car and it really degrades it by having this cheesy noise coming from it. How much am I looking at to have an aftermarket clutch installed?
Originally posted by Curt Deiner
I also have a 97 SE 5spd. I also have a "groan" like you describe. I don't think it's the clutch, cause it doesn't change when engaging/disengaging the clutch. Does yours? I had a leak at the right axle seal, and after the dealer replaced it twice and still leaked, Nissan had them open the tranny to find bearings worn. They repaired at no cost. Also replaced clutch. I paid for clutch, but was a deal cause no labor. My clutch had the "chatter" or grabby thing mainly noticed from a standing start. Boy was the new clutch light. Amazing how you get used to slow degredation. But I don't know what my groan is, seems like an accessory. Sounds almost like hydraulics going thru a pressure relief. What is it?
I also have a 97 SE 5spd. I also have a "groan" like you describe. I don't think it's the clutch, cause it doesn't change when engaging/disengaging the clutch. Does yours? I had a leak at the right axle seal, and after the dealer replaced it twice and still leaked, Nissan had them open the tranny to find bearings worn. They repaired at no cost. Also replaced clutch. I paid for clutch, but was a deal cause no labor. My clutch had the "chatter" or grabby thing mainly noticed from a standing start. Boy was the new clutch light. Amazing how you get used to slow degredation. But I don't know what my groan is, seems like an accessory. Sounds almost like hydraulics going thru a pressure relief. What is it?
#7
Originally posted by lancems007
My clutch only does this when I engage it. It doesn't do it all the time either. It either chatters (vibrates slightly) or makes that moaning groaning kind of noise when I engage it. I just ****es me off because I have such an awesome car and it really degrades it by having this cheesy noise coming from it. How much am I looking at to have an aftermarket clutch installed?
My clutch only does this when I engage it. It doesn't do it all the time either. It either chatters (vibrates slightly) or makes that moaning groaning kind of noise when I engage it. I just ****es me off because I have such an awesome car and it really degrades it by having this cheesy noise coming from it. How much am I looking at to have an aftermarket clutch installed?
#8
What clutch would you recommend putting in there. I am not interested in changing the way the clutch feels. I want to keep a stock feeling in it. Wouldn't you think that a groaning and vibrating would mean there is something wrong with it. Shouldn't Nissan have a recall on something like this. If it doesn't do it all the time, that would mean something is causing it to happen, thus, a problem!
Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
$300-$600 depending on who does the work and which parts you choose.
$300-$600 depending on who does the work and which parts you choose.
#9
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lancems007
[B]My clutch only does this when I engage it. It doesn't do it all the time either. It either chatters (vibrates slightly) or makes that moaning groaning kind of noise when I engage it. I just ****es me off because I have such an awesome car and it really degrades it by having this cheesy noise coming from it. How much am I looking at to have an aftermarket clutch installed?
I looked last night, and I paid $181 for a Nissan clutch, $210 total bill, but I didn't pay labor because the other tranny work was done under warranty. Don't forget your 5yr 60K power train. I saw no throw out bearing listed. Thought that would have been done too. Could this be the problem? My groaning goes away after hot. I would not buy a Nissan clutch again. Wished I had arranged for a Stillen clutch when I had the chance. My new clutch doesn't chatter or grab any more, just moans. You notice it's much louder from inside the car?
[B]My clutch only does this when I engage it. It doesn't do it all the time either. It either chatters (vibrates slightly) or makes that moaning groaning kind of noise when I engage it. I just ****es me off because I have such an awesome car and it really degrades it by having this cheesy noise coming from it. How much am I looking at to have an aftermarket clutch installed?
I looked last night, and I paid $181 for a Nissan clutch, $210 total bill, but I didn't pay labor because the other tranny work was done under warranty. Don't forget your 5yr 60K power train. I saw no throw out bearing listed. Thought that would have been done too. Could this be the problem? My groaning goes away after hot. I would not buy a Nissan clutch again. Wished I had arranged for a Stillen clutch when I had the chance. My new clutch doesn't chatter or grab any more, just moans. You notice it's much louder from inside the car?
#10
My car has 31,000 miles on it. Everything is original. I have owned many cars, including Jeeps, VW's, Acura's Chevy's, & Ford's. I have never had this problem with any of these cars. I just find it hard to believe that this would be considered "NORMAL" or "COMMON" in a car that has this good of a reputation. What gives?
Originally posted by ajaffee
I have a 97 GXE 5-speed. I'm not sure what the sound you're hearing is, but I'm pretty sure it's not normal. I have yet to hear anything like that in my car.
How many miles are on the car? Do you know if it is the original clutch?
I also hope you got them to sign something that says they will fix whatever is/was causing that noise. Otherwise they will try everthing to not fix it for free.
I have a 97 GXE 5-speed. I'm not sure what the sound you're hearing is, but I'm pretty sure it's not normal. I have yet to hear anything like that in my car.
How many miles are on the car? Do you know if it is the original clutch?
I also hope you got them to sign something that says they will fix whatever is/was causing that noise. Otherwise they will try everthing to not fix it for free.
#11
Originally posted by lancems007
What clutch would you recommend putting in there?
What clutch would you recommend putting in there?
#12
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Originally posted by lancems007
My car has 31,000 miles on it. Everything is original. I have owned many cars, including Jeeps, VW's, Acura's Chevy's, & Ford's. I have never had this problem with any of these cars. I just find it hard to believe that this would be considered "NORMAL" or "COMMON" in a car that has this good of a reputation. What gives?
My car has 31,000 miles on it. Everything is original. I have owned many cars, including Jeeps, VW's, Acura's Chevy's, & Ford's. I have never had this problem with any of these cars. I just find it hard to believe that this would be considered "NORMAL" or "COMMON" in a car that has this good of a reputation. What gives?
Given all the other replies to your post, I don't doubt this is common in 4th Gen Maximas. Who knows, maybe I got one of the few that doesn't groan too much. Or maybe the groan your car is making is much louder than normal, and it is a sign of a different problem all together.
I would suggest taking your car to a mechanic you trust (not the dealer) and letting him diagnose the problem. If you think that person is just blowing smoke, then take it to another mechanic and see if he comes up with the same diagnosis. Maybe they'll both tell you it's normal -- who knows.
Good luck.
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