View Poll Results: H&R's vs. H-Tech's
H&R



29
61.70%
H-Tech



18
38.30%
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H&R vs. H-Tech springs
Originally Posted by Seximus Maximus
I have Illuminas with H-Techs. Manual tranny. drop is nice and even, not "slammed" but lowered. very nice ride if u have ur illuminas set at medium or even soft settings. Obviously if u have them set high (like i ussually do at 3-4,5)) the ride will be rougher =P all in all tho they rok.
On this poll,do most people pick the H&Rs because most Maxs are automatic? The H&Rs give an even drop with the auto, but not the 5 speeds. People with 5 speeds, prefer the H- Techs. That's what I gather from the conversation of this post. I have a 5 speed and have been told that the H&Rs and the Tokiko springs will both give me an uneven drop, especially in the front. So I'v decided to go with the H-Techs.
wow this is one confusing thread. any input on my situation? i will have the fiberglass skyline kit on and want a small drop so im going with either the h-techs or the h&rs...either paired with the tokico illuminas. but dont know what to pick, i am really afraid of hurtig the kit, so i was thinking the h&rs so i have the most clearance as possible in the front. but anyone have any input that would be great, thanks
-Brendan
-Brendan
Originally Posted by ZeroCool19
wow this is one confusing thread. any input on my situation? i will have the fiberglass skyline kit on and want a small drop so im going with either the h-techs or the h&rs...either paired with the tokico illuminas. but dont know what to pick, i am really afraid of hurtig the kit, so i was thinking the h&rs so i have the most clearance as possible in the front. but anyone have any input that would be great, thanks
-Brendan
-Brendan
Originally Posted by JSutter
You will have an "uneven" drop with Tokicos too.
Where do you get 500 lbs from?
The height difference between transmissions is less than you think.
Where do you get 500 lbs from?
The height difference between transmissions is less than you think.
Originally Posted by Max Mutes
^^ Not to be an as*hole, but in that pic ^^ maybe it's the angle or suttin, but it certainly looks like your Max is sagging.
is this better
Originally Posted by C MAX
well since your not trying to be one dont. the car sits perfectly straight if im on a perfectly straight road. if youd lke to see for yourself come on by.
is this better

is this better


LMAO, no I won't come by. It's not that serious. I wouldn't care if your *** was sagging on the floor, I was just simply stating t he fact, but never thought I'd get such an as*hole response over nothin.
Oh, and now for me to truely be an as*hole, that 2nd pic is on a hill going down. The first one was more level, thus looked to be sagging.
Originally Posted by Max Mutes
^^ Not to be an as*hole, but in that pic ^^ maybe it's the angle or suttin, but it certainly looks like your Max is sagging.
Originally Posted by Max Mutes
Wow, you got serious problems. All I said is it looked, and that maybe it was the angle of the pic. Can somebody say anger management? For you to get so heated over something that I deliberatly said I wasn't tryin to be an as*hole and knock you, is ridiculous. Calm down and fix ya face. 
LMAO, no I won't come by. It's not that serious. I wouldn't care if your *** was sagging on the floor, I was just simply stating t he fact, but never thought I'd get such an as*hole response over nothin.
Oh, and now for me to truely be an as*hole, that 2nd pic is on a hill going down. The first one was more level, thus looked to be sagging.

LMAO, no I won't come by. It's not that serious. I wouldn't care if your *** was sagging on the floor, I was just simply stating t he fact, but never thought I'd get such an as*hole response over nothin.
Oh, and now for me to truely be an as*hole, that 2nd pic is on a hill going down. The first one was more level, thus looked to be sagging.
Originally Posted by Max Mutes
^^ Not to be an as*hole, but in that pic ^^ maybe it's the angle or suttin, but it certainly looks like your Max is sagging.
Originally Posted by maxboogie
wow how could you tell its sagging when i stand two feet from it and cant tell. c max has about 600lbs in his trunk with all the dynamat and custom work done and it still sits well. i just think your jealous.
Actually I think the Teins are pretty good quality?
The finish is very durable, they come with isolators, have a sag guarantee. I could easily say they are 2x as well made as my Sprints, and I've had both springs for 5k+ miles. People have been riding on Sprints for 50k+ miles and no problems, and I'm sure the same with H&R. As far as I'm concerned, they're both about the same darn thing. Teins may be harsher (they seem like it in comparison to H&Rs), drop is similar.
Why are there so many haters who talk without ever even seeing or riding on H-Techs?
-Cyrus
The finish is very durable, they come with isolators, have a sag guarantee. I could easily say they are 2x as well made as my Sprints, and I've had both springs for 5k+ miles. People have been riding on Sprints for 50k+ miles and no problems, and I'm sure the same with H&R. As far as I'm concerned, they're both about the same darn thing. Teins may be harsher (they seem like it in comparison to H&Rs), drop is similar.Why are there so many haters who talk without ever even seeing or riding on H-Techs?

-Cyrus
Originally Posted by deezo
Didn't he say he had a system in the trunk? If you guys think Tiens are better than H&R's in overall quality and performance, you're nuts. I'm waiting for the next day when someone posts another picture of a rusted spring. Tien might be next.
The point is TEIN High-Techs (they are not called H-Techs) are an excellent spring. Also, as Cyrus points out, they come with spring isolators pre-installed (the only spring I know of that does) and the finish and overall quality is excellent. So don't diss TEIN.
My ride on TEIN High-Techs, Illuminas, manual tranny, and no trunk system: http://vquick.net/gallery/evos
I would recommend High-Techs for any 4th gen, auto or manual. There's still plenty of front wheel gap on my car. I might like it a little lower in front for looks but for handling and comfort I think this is perfect.
Originally Posted by VQuick
I'm with Cyrus. WTF, TEIN is one of the top Japanese suspension manufacturers. H&R gets by on its reputation, but I tell you if I knew nothing else about two products, I would take a Japanese product over a German product. But that's really beside the point.
The point is TEIN High-Techs (they are not called H-Techs) are an excellent spring. Also, as Cyrus points out, they come with spring isolators pre-installed (the only spring I know of that does) and the finish and overall quality is excellent. So don't diss TEIN.
My ride on TEIN High-Techs, Illuminas, manual tranny, and no trunk system: http://vquick.net/gallery/evos
I would recommend High-Techs for any 4th gen, auto or manual. There's still plenty of front wheel gap on my car. I might like it a little lower in front for looks but for handling and comfort I think this is perfect.
The point is TEIN High-Techs (they are not called H-Techs) are an excellent spring. Also, as Cyrus points out, they come with spring isolators pre-installed (the only spring I know of that does) and the finish and overall quality is excellent. So don't diss TEIN.
My ride on TEIN High-Techs, Illuminas, manual tranny, and no trunk system: http://vquick.net/gallery/evos
I would recommend High-Techs for any 4th gen, auto or manual. There's still plenty of front wheel gap on my car. I might like it a little lower in front for looks but for handling and comfort I think this is perfect.
I've been see-sawing between these two springs for a while now, and I've come to the realization that, well, I can't really loose either way.
Both springs are quality springs. Both have excellent handling properties (by far exceeding the stock mumbo jumbo I'm riding on right now), and both are as comfortable as aftermarket springs go.
As far as stance goes, I'll give it up to the High.Tech's. They certainly have a very sexy and tough look (insert Bonka's car here), but when it came to comfort, I gave the edge to the H&R's.
Yes, the thread was a bit confusing to me at times too, mostly because the poll always seemed to say H&R's, but most of the posts either had an interest in or liked the High.Tech's better. It did however allow me to learn a little more about each one and filled me with a sense that my choice would be an educated one, not an off the cuff one or one that I would regret later. (of course choosing between these two springs is like choosing between lobster and king crab legs, either way I've got butter runnin down my chin, with a big *** smile on my face!)
With that, I've decided to go with the Maxspeed ones (nah I'm just kiddin
)
I chose the H&R's. The comfort of them was appealing to me the whole time, and affirmations that it sat even from fellow auto's with stuff in their trunks sealed it for me. I also know that If I end up not liking them, I can always sell em and chuck on the High.Tech's later. (what's a few hundred bucks more to get that sense of pure happiness I'm longing for)
A big thank you for helping me find the right spring for my Max. This place Rocks!
Both springs are quality springs. Both have excellent handling properties (by far exceeding the stock mumbo jumbo I'm riding on right now), and both are as comfortable as aftermarket springs go.
As far as stance goes, I'll give it up to the High.Tech's. They certainly have a very sexy and tough look (insert Bonka's car here), but when it came to comfort, I gave the edge to the H&R's.
Yes, the thread was a bit confusing to me at times too, mostly because the poll always seemed to say H&R's, but most of the posts either had an interest in or liked the High.Tech's better. It did however allow me to learn a little more about each one and filled me with a sense that my choice would be an educated one, not an off the cuff one or one that I would regret later. (of course choosing between these two springs is like choosing between lobster and king crab legs, either way I've got butter runnin down my chin, with a big *** smile on my face!)
With that, I've decided to go with the Maxspeed ones (nah I'm just kiddin
)I chose the H&R's. The comfort of them was appealing to me the whole time, and affirmations that it sat even from fellow auto's with stuff in their trunks sealed it for me. I also know that If I end up not liking them, I can always sell em and chuck on the High.Tech's later. (what's a few hundred bucks more to get that sense of pure happiness I'm longing for)
A big thank you for helping me find the right spring for my Max. This place Rocks!
Originally Posted by VTonmymind
I've been see-sawing between these two springs for a while now, and I've come to the realization that, well, I can't really loose either way.
Both springs are quality springs. Both have excellent handling properties (by far exceeding the stock mumbo jumbo I'm riding on right now), and both are as comfortable as aftermarket springs go.
As far as stance goes, I'll give it up to the High.Tech's. They certainly have a very sexy and tough look (insert Bonka's car here), but when it came to comfort, I gave the edge to the H&R's.
Yes, the thread was a bit confusing to me at times too, mostly because the poll always seemed to say H&R's, but most of the posts either had an interest in or liked the High.Tech's better. It did however allow me to learn a little more about each one and filled me with a sense that my choice would be an educated one, not an off the cuff one or one that I would regret later. (of course choosing between these two springs is like choosing between lobster and king crab legs, either way I've got butter runnin down my chin, with a big *** smile on my face!)
With that, I've decided to go with the Maxspeed ones (nah I'm just kiddin
)
I chose the H&R's. The comfort of them was appealing to me the whole time, and affirmations that it sat even from fellow auto's with stuff in their trunks sealed it for me. I also know that If I end up not liking them, I can always sell em and chuck on the High.Tech's later. (what's a few hundred bucks more to get that sense of pure happiness I'm longing for)
A big thank you for helping me find the right spring for my Max. This place Rocks!
Both springs are quality springs. Both have excellent handling properties (by far exceeding the stock mumbo jumbo I'm riding on right now), and both are as comfortable as aftermarket springs go.
As far as stance goes, I'll give it up to the High.Tech's. They certainly have a very sexy and tough look (insert Bonka's car here), but when it came to comfort, I gave the edge to the H&R's.
Yes, the thread was a bit confusing to me at times too, mostly because the poll always seemed to say H&R's, but most of the posts either had an interest in or liked the High.Tech's better. It did however allow me to learn a little more about each one and filled me with a sense that my choice would be an educated one, not an off the cuff one or one that I would regret later. (of course choosing between these two springs is like choosing between lobster and king crab legs, either way I've got butter runnin down my chin, with a big *** smile on my face!)
With that, I've decided to go with the Maxspeed ones (nah I'm just kiddin
)I chose the H&R's. The comfort of them was appealing to me the whole time, and affirmations that it sat even from fellow auto's with stuff in their trunks sealed it for me. I also know that If I end up not liking them, I can always sell em and chuck on the High.Tech's later. (what's a few hundred bucks more to get that sense of pure happiness I'm longing for)
A big thank you for helping me find the right spring for my Max. This place Rocks!
-Brendan
Originally Posted by VQuick
So don't diss TEIN.
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Hey VQUICK, what size tires and wheels are you running. I have 17" Katana Inspires waiting to be installed but I don't wanna slap them on until I lower the car a bit.
Someone on the org is selling me S-techs but what are the differences between the High techs and the S-techs aside from the Stechs offering a bigger drop. Also, I am looking at getting a Stillen kit in the near future. Would the s-techs give too much of a drop that with the kit, my car would be slammed to the ground?
Someone on the org is selling me S-techs but what are the differences between the High techs and the S-techs aside from the Stechs offering a bigger drop. Also, I am looking at getting a Stillen kit in the near future. Would the s-techs give too much of a drop that with the kit, my car would be slammed to the ground?
Originally Posted by egxflash
Hey VQUICK, what size tires and wheels are you running. I have 17" Katana Inspires waiting to be installed but I don't wanna slap them on until I lower the car a bit.
Someone on the org is selling me S-techs but what are the differences between the High techs and the S-techs aside from the Stechs offering a bigger drop. Also, I am looking at getting a Stillen kit in the near future. Would the s-techs give too much of a drop that with the kit, my car would be slammed to the ground?
Someone on the org is selling me S-techs but what are the differences between the High techs and the S-techs aside from the Stechs offering a bigger drop. Also, I am looking at getting a Stillen kit in the near future. Would the s-techs give too much of a drop that with the kit, my car would be slammed to the ground?
The S-techs are simply lower and definitely won't be as comfortable as the High-Techs. You'd be pushing it with S-Techs and a kit but that's doable. The poorer ride quality is the number 1 issue.
H&R's sag with 5-speeds...no question. I've lived with it and perfer the front end a bit lower so I had to get custom spacers to sit the back up a bit.
I love the ride of my H&R's, but if I had to do it over I'd go with another option.
I love the ride of my H&R's, but if I had to do it over I'd go with another option.
when my car was Auto I loved my H-techs. It looked really good and ride was smooth yet firm (no bouncy bounce). now that I got a 5spd, and the front end is 70lbs lighter, it raised up. Now the car is too high, and I'ma drop it lower soon. For Autos I'd say you cant loose with the H tech.
any one wanna buy used H techs, let me know. They've been on my car for about 7 months.
marc
any one wanna buy used H techs, let me know. They've been on my car for about 7 months.
marc
hey guys... i really appreciate this trhead, since im looking for either h&r or high tech's as well... i was just wondering, what are your thoughts on the tokico springs that often come in the illumina kit?... has anyone experienced these springs, how do they ride, how their drop is, etc... thanks.
http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?MaximaSprings for starters.
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