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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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jbling those rotors look really small, this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid with my 18's.


Has anyone here put anything bigger than 13" are cobra rotors our only option?
Ya, I know. They're smaller than the stock rotor by 6mm. I wonder if it would it be possible to get brackets for 12in/6th gen rotors, instead of 13s? Jeff c'mon w/the info.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Not sure why you want the smaller rotors but yes. If you want to run a Blemco kit, you can run your existing calipers/lines etc.. Just buy his kit, take off your 300z rotors, install his brackets and rotors and you're done.

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Ya, I know. They're smaller than the stock rotor by 6mm. I wonder if it would it be possible to get brackets for 12in/6th gen rotors, instead of 13s? Jeff c'mon w/the info.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jblinga
Ya, I know. They're smaller than the stock rotor by 6mm. I wonder if it would it be possible to get brackets for 12in/6th gen rotors, instead of 13s? Jeff c'mon w/the info.
Thats what I was hoping for, 6th gen are 12.6"x 1.10" does anyone know the width of cobra 13" rotors? This way I don't think there's any bolt pattern width issues as the cobra's are 2mm wider bolt holes than ours even though the pattern is the same and no hub centric rings required, so we need a bracket .40" shorter than jeff92se's cobra brackets! Could he get some made?? This may also help the caliper width problem for some wheels!!!??
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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You cannot use my brackets and the 2k4 rotors. It's not a height issue. It's an offset issue.

You guys sure like to make things complicated.

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Thats what I was hoping for, 6th gen are 12.6"x 1.10" does anyone know the width of cobra 13" rotors? This way I don't think there's any bolt pattern width issues as the cobra's are 2mm wider bolt holes than ours even though the pattern is the same and no hub centric rings required, so we need a bracket .40" shorter than jeff92se's cobra brackets! Could he get some made?? This may also help the caliper width problem for some wheels!!!??
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Not sure why you want the smaller rotors but yes. If you want to run a Blemco kit, you can run your existing calipers/lines etc.. Just buy his kit, take off your 300z rotors, install his brackets and rotors and you're done.
Its just that on the 13in rotors the 300ZX caliper doesn't utilize the entire surface area. You can see there is probably close to 1 in. of the rotor that isn't being used. So what is the point of such a large rotor if you can't utilize the braking surface you've added?
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You cannot use my brackets and the 2k4 rotors. It's not a height issue. It's an offset issue.

You guys sure like to make things complicated.
Sorry, this must be frustrating for you with all these "simple solutions" that don't work! But thinking rotor replacement wise this would make sense as they are readily available, a bracket must be possible it's a case of test fitting and the bracket being "bent" or shaped to accomodate off set as well as height no? Just trying!
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Take a look at your stock rotor sometime. There is also alot of surface not used. It's just rusted and you don't notice.

You just want as much of the pad on the rotor as possible. Which this does. And you want the larger rotor for the greatest torque arm advantage. This all has been discussed at length before though.

Both my kit and Matt's kit work fine.

Originally Posted by jblinga
Its just that on the 13in rotors the 300ZX caliper doesn't utilize the entire surface area. You can see there is probably close to 1 in. of the rotor that isn't being used. So what is the point of such a large rotor if you can't utilize the braking surface you've added?
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Take a look at your stock rotor sometime. There is also alot of surface not used. It's just rusted and you don't notice.

You just want as much of the pad on the rotor as possible. Which this does. And you want the larger rotor for the greatest torque arm advantage. This all has been discussed at length before though.

Both my kit and Matt's kit work fine.
Not even close to as much as the 13in. rotors. Just my .02 cents
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Sure it's possible. I'm not going to design a bracket to use the 2k4 rotors when one already exists. And since Matt is my friend, I'm not going to infringe on his design and sales.

I don't understand if you want to use the 2k4 rotors, why don't you just buy his brackets. More expensive, but you have seen them you'll understand why. It's not like it would be any cheaper from me anyway.

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Sorry, this must be frustrating for you with all these "simple solutions" that don't work! But thinking rotor replacement wise this would make sense as they are readily available, a bracket must be possible it's a case of test fitting and the bracket being "bent" or shaped to accomodate off set as well as height no? Just trying!
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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It's okay, this question comes up once a month or so.

Put this way, the 300z calipers get engaged 100%. Whether it's on 13" rotors, 12.6" 2k4 rotors or even on the now 11.xx milled rotors. That is the point.

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Not even close to as much as the 13in. rotors. Just my .02 cents
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nupe500
simply put....NO!
well will the 300zx caliper and 300zx rotor fit the 2000 se rims, i remember it being said yes before, now im not so sure
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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So although the 17" maxima wheels are BIG enough. They don't allow nearly the room width-wise to clear the spokes. Your best best for oem nissan wheels are some of the G35 or 350z wheels.

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well will the 300zx caliper and 300zx rotor fit the 2000 se rims, i remember it being said yes before, now im not so sure
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Sure it's possible. I'm not going to design a bracket to use the 2k4 rotors when one already exists. And since Matt is my friend, I'm not going to infringe on his design and sales.

I don't understand if you want to use the 2k4 rotors, why don't you just buy his brackets. More expensive, but you have seen them you'll understand why. It's not like it would be any cheaper from me anyway.
My apologies, I didn't know there was a 2K4 bracket out there already, cool...., choices!
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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I'm probably killing my own sales but oh well. What are friends for, right Matt?
http://www.mattblehm.com/300ZX_brakes.html
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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any chance some spacers will help, i really dont want to space the front any further but if i can space it jus a tad to fit them im willing to do it.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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You need ALOT more than a tad. More like 3"-4". Which is a ridiculas thickness for a spacer.Like I said before. My Cobra wheels are perfect. Some others are running G35 18" wheels. I think alot of 350z wheels will work.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by japmaxSE
2. With Jeffs bracket can I go bigger than 13" or do I have to make my own?
The calipers will not sit properly on anything other than the original 300zx rotors. The radius of the calipers and pads is designed for only the stock size, and will not work properly even on the 13" cobra rotors, much less anything larger.
I'll have to check these out at the next meet Maximus. How's the pedal feel and travel? From my experience in helping install several of these brakes, the feel is worse than stock.
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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Hi Andy, still using other people's screen names I see.

They sit fine. Both on my kit, Matt's kit and the numerous 300xz that have similar kits. And since your APs have more piston area than these calipers do, pedal travel is no worse.

And I've had this setup for well over a year and well over 10,000 miles now

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The calipers will not sit properly on anything other than the original 300zx rotors. The radius of the calipers and pads is designed for only the stock size, and will not work properly even on the 13" cobra rotors, much less anything larger.
I'll have to check these out at the next meet Maximus. How's the pedal feel and travel? From my experience in helping install several of these brakes, the feel is worse than stock.
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Hey Jeff I'm sending you the money for the brackets tomorrow, Oh how much for SS lines? and cobra rotors just curious?
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Get them on! But I don't think they will clear with your current wheels. Those spokes are CLOSE. You need another 10mm of width to use my brackets and 13" cobra rotors.

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jeff92se, thanx for the offer, but i already have them in my garage.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Jeff what year Cobra rotors do I need to get?
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Some years are the same but ordering the 1998 year works.
Old Apr 16, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Will the 300zx calipers bolt on to 6th gen Maxima or do I need Matt's bracket?
Old Apr 16, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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hey Peter,

How is the peddle feel? I heard its squishy with the TT kit??


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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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not squishy at all, it feels normal at first, but then when you really need to step on it, you feel it kick in like crazy.
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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i heard if u upgrade the front brakes, it throws off the f/r braking bias which actually decreases braking distance and that if you want to upgrade your brakes, you have to do front AND rear to get improvements. is that true?
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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I doubt that, Az. front brakes do about 85% of the braking. I know some people with real BBKs and when they hit the brakes it feels like it'll dislodge your spleen. Now thats gotta lead to shorter stopping distances...


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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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I have personally riden in peter's car and I was very impressed with the brakes...it was almost as if the ABS was stepping in a little to early in some instances...but nonetheless, even as a passenger I could appreciate the difference in braking power over my car even though I have upgraded brakes, suspension, lighter wheels and upgraded tires...

I was also thoroughly impressed by the tein basic CO! as was everyone else that day...
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
I have personally riden in peter's car and I was very impressed with the brakes...it was almost as if the ABS was stepping in a little to early in some instances...but nonetheless, even as a passenger I could appreciate the difference in braking power over my car even though I have upgraded brakes, suspension, lighter wheels and upgraded tires...

I was also thoroughly impressed by the tein basic CO! as was everyone else that day...


I got to drive it in a parking lot. Didn't get to test out the brakes but the Teins... wow 0_0 You can go over a speed bump comfortably. With my S-techs no comparisson. Basics win it all...
Old Apr 20, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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haha, thanx guys, although you guys love my ride, i love you're guys's rides a lot more. =)
Old Apr 20, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by japmaxSE
Jeff what year Cobra rotors do I need to get?
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Some years are the same but ordering the 1998 year works.
But the 5 stud holes are bigger on the stock cobra rotors are they not? So we can't just go out and get Cobra rotors say off ebay right or can we??? Or could they be re drilled same bolt pattern 2mm narrower in a different position? Or does the center need to be blank?? This where I get confused

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33564
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I'm getting a pair of 13" Cobra cross drilled slotted rotors localy, and I'm just going to simply drill new holes...
Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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why not put fittings in the holes...like spacers to fit the maxima? shimmings or whatever? i dont know if it would be a good idea, but it just an idea.
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