well for me, I'm just looking for the sound, really since from what ive heard from everybody no intake really helps that much. Also, I wanna avoid one that'll actually be detrimental to the car's performance and a majority of people are shying me away from Injen since there's a noticeable loss in the low end with that type of intake.

 

intakes dont add jack **** in the way of performance. there were dino sheets a while back proving that anything but the stock mid pipe = a loss of like 1hp. all intakes do is add noise.


edit: also, i was under the impression that cold air intakes (real ones, not that injen bull ****) are better for autos cus they suposedly add more low end, and hi flows add more high end. or is the other way arround?

 

I have a PR rip off CAI. I'll switch it back to the stock intake system and tell yall if I notice a gain or a loss.


Marc

 

got AWFULL quiet in here....

 

went back to stock intake from bomz CAI. Dont really notice much difference. throttle responce seems about the same, which I'm disappointed with. much quiter especailly at WOT.

anyone have a link to a dyno sheet comparing stock intake and aftermarket cold air I'd be greatful.


Marc

 

Show me yours and I'll do the same. For starters, here's from this site's faq
· Which intake system is the best?
The CAI makes the most horsepower. The Stillen and JWT are about equal. The JWT is the cheapest with the CAI being the most expensive. With the CAI, you will have to drill a 3" diameter hole in the fender well because the filter for the system sits in the fender well to suck in cool air.

Oops I found something!

 

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Does the injen really cause decrease in low end torque?I mean I love the sound of my car and all, but i actually felt (not heard) a increase in acceleration with it on.

 

WTF? You're telling us to prove this on a dyno sheet, but you don't need one to prove what you're saying?????? Again show us your sheets of loosing tq/hp & someone might beleive you. Intakes offer little gains @ the wheel but it is still a gain. So quit being a hater cause Jeff92se just shot your theory(w/no proof on a dyno sheet) down the drain, even though it was on a 3.5 altima. I noticed better throttle response w/mine, but how can you say that it gained/lost tq/hp if you don't have proof???

 

personally i like the feel of a short ram. In my opinion power up top is more fun. The maxima has plenty of power to make normal driving plenty entertaining at low rpm even if i do lose some power (although i think that's a load of cr*p). Either way its more fun to know its there on reserve. It's like driving a turboed car, or one with vvt. Under normal circumstances it doesn't make a difference, but the power is there when you want it. As far as cold air is concerned, the stock inake is more of a cold air intake that either the jwt or stillen. If you want a cheap cold air intake then wrap your stock in heat shielding, put on the resonator box under the battery, and put in a k&n panel filter. If you wanna go the extra step, run some hose from the hole left by the resonator to a fog light hole and heat shield that hose too.

regardless of all this, no matter what intake your only talking about a max 5 hp gain, so who really cares. If you're that concerned with 5 hp, go buy a miata and join scca

 

The Intake Drama Begins........

 

umm arent there like a gillion and a half threads about how aftermarket intakes for the most part just make noise. You might get like 1-2 hp from a short ram and like 5 tops from a CAI or whatever but seriously its not a huge deal either way.

 

just got my pr cai,have a short ram in now i will see if i can get a dyno b4 and after to see if theres a difference in the 2...this way we can end this intake drama.Hopin that the pr cai feels better then the short ram.

 

Something is amiss Jeff92se, the dyno chart shows a torque increase from 145 stock to 190 with just a CAI at 2000rpms? I don't buy it. The HP gains at certain RPMs is also way too high for just a CAI imho. I'm wondering what other "Mods" (plural) were done in addition to the CAI? Where was this pulled from, I'd like to read the full write up on it.

Just hack the airbox, great sound without turning it into a HAI. Although a true CAI does look very sweet in the engine bay.

 

He probably did not have the accelerator fully pressed at the begenning of the dyno hence the big increase.

And for the rest, intake drama has been here since the old days, we have what we have think it does what we think for whatever makes us sleep at night.

 

wtf? a war on intakes hhmm
i got my intake just for sound reasons, i know the hp isnt really there, if it is then wtf who cares. you want real horses do real mods.

 

If wanting to stay N/A, tehn what could we do ..

 

If you want to call these guys BS, go right ahead. http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...projectaltima/

 

Like i said my guess is that they didn;t have the throttle wide open.. I've seen it in many dynos.

OT, but their project altima gained some decent hp with the JWT cams, and lossed minimal down low ... I think tehy're at ~260whp, and still not in the 13's, I think their best so far was 14.1 they can't drive

 

i paid 33 shipped

 

I'd take 5hp any day..

 

My cold air intake made a big difference on my 96..I removed my battery tray and drilled a 3" hold in the left wheel well and put the filter in there.. i had to remove my tire and the panel.. it sounds insane.. i paired it up w/ an AEM bypass valve and it does miracles.. well, i wont be hearing it much anymore because i just ordered my warpspeed y pipe/highflow cat, and my greddy sp2.. Im Ready for some real sounds..

 

to top it all off, i got the B&M shortshifter and i absolutely love it to death!!!!!!!!!

 

You should get to a dyno with that set-up.

 

I am afraid to do SP2 and Cat because of the sound. Living in GA is harsh. You can get ripped on from the big trucks as they pull the ricer card and the fact that you have to hear it when you barely put the gas in. Would a Y-Pipe and Cat sound normal. I was always under this idea that the annoying low RPM Civic sound came from B-Pipe and Muff.

 

i have SP/cat + CAI and the sound is really good ... its' the y-pipe addition that makes it sound 10x louder

 

Everyone and their step sister said Y-Pipe sounds stock when there isn't any other exhaust done ... with the exception of Mid to High RPM. PLEASE correct me if I am wrong cause I am planning on getting a budget

 

just make a new thread about it ... i know because I compared my setup with a local max owner who had the same exhaust setup + y-pipe.

 

In layman's terms I had a HAI/short ram intake and I have a cold air. With the HAI the car is quicker in acceleration, acceleration and top speed are two different things. I think cold air intakes are better for top speed, in a 1/8 mile race a max with an HAI may take a max with a cold air if the had exact identical set ups except for the intake, I think that in the 1/4 though the roles would reverse. That's just a laymans observation, I'm probably wrong, according to the dyno the gain is about 8hp and 10 lbs of torque at about 5200 rpm but that's just the manufactuers dyno.

http://www.injen.com/webpages/testin...nal/RD1945.jpg

 

so basically short ram and hai=better low end but not so great high end
and CAI just opposite?

 

actually its said to be the exact opposite



Marc

 

agreed ...


CAI is better for low-end because immediate cold air

but on highway, air has to travel more curves so it isn't as good as HAI would be in that case...

 

I have a custom cold air intake where the filter sits in the fender and i've taken so many maximas w/ regular short ram intakes.. on top of that mine is about 3X louder and sounds WAY better... I wont be able to prove that for long since i just ordered my warpspeed ypipe, high flow cat, and my sp2..

 

I have Budget Y-pipe, HighFlow Cat (everything back to the tips is stock (not for long)) and just yesterday i put this:



I haven't blast it yet since the threadlocker and the silicone sealant need 24 hours to cure and i definitely don't want my engine to ingest the damn plate from the AMB sensor.

I post back later this afternoon since I am gonna take it out to pick up my front license plate mount braket.

 

Sure is QUIET in here, ISN'T IT??

 

[QUOTE=renatonetmail]I have Budget Y-pipe, HighFlow Cat (everything back to the tips is stock (not for long)) and just yesterday i put this:
I haven't blast it yet since the threadlocker and the silicone sealant need 24 hours to cure and i definitely don't want my engine to ingest the damn plate from the AMB sensor.
I post back later this afternoon since I am gonna take it out to pick up my front license plate mount braket.



Nice setup!! i have the same intake but in yellow w/ a k&n filter. I also added an AEM bypass valve incase water get near the filter.

 

I also have a SPEC Stage 2 with a kevlar plate clutch kit sitting in my closet waiting for obviou$ rea$on$ the Stillen Flywheel next month and that's gonna be my next mod.

than catback(maybe Budget) and look for a junkyard better shape OEM muffler and keep my tip.

By the way? which K&N Filter Part# shoould I get when the monsterflow "expires"... ? how much the whole filter +kit ?

 

Well, this is the 3rd filter i get.. I just went to a performance shop and bought the 3" k&n airfilter for 25$.. i change it every 6-7months.. Listen, i have a stock muffler for sale.. Its in great condition.. Im getting my sp2 this week and will be removing the stock one shortly.. Let me know if you are interested.. Im in Newark NJ.. If you need someone to do the work on your car (shortshifter, clutch, etc) let me know.. my boy does everythiing for me.. he just did my shortshifter(B&M)..He did it in about 1.5 hours.. nothing major.. we were bsing alot thats what took so long.. we will be doing my exhaust next week..

 

how much does your boy charge? or... i should pass by and get a 12pack first? Got any pics on that muffler? Iam 15 min from newark

 

Good point. What happened to the intake know-it-all??
Where you @ Stuntin??