You guys know that the K&N filters are reusable right?

 

What year is your car?? Im going to take pics of the muffler when i take it off.. its still on as of now.. if you wanted to meet up so that you can see that it has no leaks,etc, we could do that.. The price really depends on what you want to get done? Let me know.. PM me if anything..

 

I heard that they are reusable but you have to put some cleaning oil on them to reinstall them.. since my filter is in the bottom it gets pretty dirty and ugly.. i'd rather just buy a new one..

 

Okay but it's a waste of $.

 

I have a 95 if you say it has no leaks and I am going to buy it at due time in person i take your word for it. How about STS, Clutch and Flywheel? Of course I would bring everything including my 2 hands if he can use them. I just don't have a lift.

 

Do you have the STS already?? If not, i would recommend a B&M!!! let me know how much you can get it for.. I might be able to get it cheaper.. To install the b&m on your car would be pretty cheap..Im going to call him and find out how much it would be to do the clutch,flywheel, and STS all at once.. You can feel free to call me if anything.. Im going to pm you my number..

 

haha, jeff, i was going to ask the same thing. Stuntin101 is mildy retarded. I dropped from 15.9 to 15.4 after adding a CAI to my y pipe and 2.5" exhaust. Ran 2.5 weeks apart at the same track, at night. Relatively same conditions. Only thing different was that i added the PR style intake with a k&n filter. and i agree, replacing them is a waste of money. They do a great job of filtering out crap too. My throttle body is spotless, while the filter is filled with junk. A quick cleaning and re oiling, and it was good as new.

 

I assume you liked the low end. You running the stock resonator?

 

im here.. not going anywhere.. gotta find some info for my wheels before i start gettin into this again.. brb

 

thats your proof??? hahaha.. you got alot to learn

 

As do you. Because that's alot more proof than you provided. At least he went to the track.

 

I thought you were meant to avoid foam filters like the plague as bits break off and end up in your engine !?!?

 

The screen on the MAF should help any big chunks

 

jeff92se... that dyno chart was of a nissan altima with a 3.5 liter engine. How can you prove that a 3.0 liter nissan maxima engine would receive the same gains in horsepower and torque throughout the power band? Do you have a dyno chart of that? I'm not taking sides I just want to get my **** straight. I'll look in the FAQ'S when I'm done with this and see if I can dig up a chart of a maxima.

 

Try the dyno section, you MIGHT have more luck.

 

that's what i meant

 

I know it's a diff car. I didn't say that the gains would be the same or even similar. I was just proving that CAIs do benefit. If it benefits a VQ powered Altima, there's a good chance that it will benefit a VQ powered maxima.

 

well.. now that i got some time.. let me put this to rest.. seeing as how i must be "semi-retarded", ill try to explain it as simple as possible so the technologicaly advanced can keep up with me.. <deep breath> here we go...

lets first understand that different combinations of modifications, have different effects on the vehicle. weather it be a postive or negative, you cant just buy a whole bunch of stuff, slap eveything on, and expect your JC Whitney cocktail to make you a speed racer.. secondly jeff, you cant have someone in your corner paling up to argue with me about his intake, meanwhile hes supercharged, with a 3" exhaust.. it just dont work that way. things are gonna work different on his car. this whole thing was started with you over somebody asking about a few minor bolt on parts, and your giving advice using some kid that probably dumped 5 grand in his motor as your foundation over an intake. also, the person asking about it, im sure is not going to care about what his car does on the track. he wants info for driving on the street, in short light to light darts. a quarter mile run, and a street race, are two different things. stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. could it benefit him? possibibly, is he dumped a few grand into his car, then MABYE.. this aint nascar, and if anybody really wanted to go fast, they shouldnt be driving a maxima in the first place.

as far as the 19 year old wanna be mario andretti... you are the same as the guys i went to high school with that were driving around in monte carlos and regals that flipped the top of their air cleaner upside down and all of sudden thought they had "unleashed the hidden power".. Noise does not equal speed, you think your car is faster just because of the sound. i can cut off your muffler and you would think the same thing. you think you know it all, but the reality of the situation is your just begining to learn. so pay attention.

first of all.. lets get this out of the way. that dyno sheet is completely meaningless by reasons already stated.. its a different car, different motor, and you dont even know if anything else was done to the car. this other morons .4 second drop on his timeslip is meaningless also. you did it on different nites first of all, and i can run just about any car on this planet , not change a thing on it, and get a .4 second difference in time.. theres WAY too many things that could be different that could account for that. could be how much gas you had in the tank, how good the gas was, mabye your car just for whatever reason ran a little better that nite. hell, i can fart in the friggin thing and say that gave me the extra .4 second difference. what you did, is hardly, by no means , a controled or studied situation. but for this purpose, lets assume that at least the dyno has some usable information on it, or determine if something is missing there.

as far as this intake vs the stock intake. first off, what makes you think that some guy that painted a peice of pvc and put a filter on it is an engineer? somebody, somewhere, made the cheapest thing they could come up with, called it a cold air intake, and is sitting back waiting to take your money. im sure that whoever designed the stock nissan intake, is alot smarter, and makes alot more money.theres a reason for that, so lets examine the two shall we?

the cai is some cheap pvc pipe, that re-routes the air intake point from the front of the car to iniside the fender well.?? cold air you said? you just went from taking fresh air from outside the nose of the car, to taking in air from a closed fender well with just about no air circulation at all. show me a thermal test that has monitored the tempature of the air rite before it enters the throttle body in a stock intake, compared to your "cold air" intake. show me a test that doesnt give you that same results of that BULLSh-T dyno when just using a higher flow air fliter. wrap some a/c lines around that pvc pipe and then call it a cold air intake.

before you even go trying to compare an aftermarket intake to and aftermarket y-pipe, nissan is governed by fedral law with emissions levels. certain things have to be there, that are going to restrict air flow. this is why some intake systems are so well designed to begin with.. to make them work as best as they can with the systems they have. you think your $40 ebay intake is gonna do better? not to say that it could never yield a worthy gain, but there would have to be alot of other things done to the car before you'll ever see ANYTHING like that.

so captain obvious, and mario andretti, you think we can at least agree that the stock intake is gathering air from the nose of the car? you know, that fresh air, from outside the engine bay? what do you call that big black peice of plastic thats sitting under your hood collecting the air? an air scoop rite? why does it have a big opening in the front, and gradually get smaller? mabye its designed to do something? could it be to increase air velocity? could be huh? mabye? ya think ?? sounds alot like a ram air intake now doesnt it? come to think of it, doesnt it sorta look like one too? mabye by some stretch of the imagination it even kinda works like one? so can you tell whats missing from all your dyno sheets yet? you know, the ones you keep mentioning.... figure it out yet?? how about i give you a little hint. ready yet? ok.. hold on mario, this might shock you...

whats missing is this... when the car is ACTUALLY DRIVING, as opposed to just sitting on your dyno with the front wheels spinning, theres the VERY INSIGNIFICANT 5 - 90 mph wind thats FORCING AIR down that scoop. you know,... that air thats gaining even more velocity as is compressed by the size reduction, when the car is ACTUALLY DRIVING, and not sitting on your dyno.. never really thought about that did ya? mabye i actually know a few things after all huh?? stick around and mabye you can learn some more cool stuff..

you wanna SUCK some air out of an encolsed area inside of your fender instead of it being FORCED IN by a well designed intake system, be my guest..

 

^^^ wow thats longer than the research paper that i just typed for english

 

I don't think the maxima "ram air" intake does that much better because when you replace it you take off 2 or 3 "collectors" which would negate the ram air theory, that scoop is a follow the leader design that puts the intake out of the way of other components. If ram air stock intake does something with intake velocity, that means the Tornado fuel saver works too. Most dynos have a fan placed in front of the vehicle so that it does not overheat, that fan air should compensate for some gain on the stock in take "ram air theory". Someone may say this would be an unfair advantage since it's not getting 90mph worth of wind , if that's the case, why not try to dyno a max with a g-tech meter, first measure stock, then convert to cold air and see if there are any gains.

 

a tornado fuel saver alters the way the air moves, thats all it is designed to do. it does not collect and force air in.. tell you what you can do.. run an air compressor though a series of hoses and open champers, or "collectors" say, 2 feet long, and let me know if you can get the movement of that air to stop. the stock intake is widely overlooked beacuse of exactly what you said. its neatly tucked away, and unnoticed. placing a fan in front of the car is not going to compensate for the car actually driving. next time your doing 80 or 90 mph on the highway, stick your hand out of the window and tell me if it feels the same as holding it on front of a fan.

 

im a 19 year old mario andretti? k, guess because i go to the track, im a dude in a monte carlo and regal. i always have 1/4 tank of gas in my car at the track, the conditions of the night were the same, the other maximas i went with were running consistent times with what they were on sept 3rd. I'd love to see you fart and squeeze .4 seconds out of any car. You obviously think that because you're 28, you have more knowledge than me. HA. Are you telling me that air isnt forced up through the foglight opening, into my intake? If that was the case, why would be making so much "noise" then? Like i said, everything in my set up was about equal. If it werent, not .4 worth. From consistent 16s to consistent 15.4, thats nothing you can fart and pull off. You're prove is your little theories, no dynos, no track times, no anything. Til then, im right, you're wrong.

 

here ya go kids, its not really talking about the full intake, but midpipe vs. midpipe, stock is better, and aftermarket LOSES power. this is for a short ram thoguh, so it may be a different (slightly if anything) story for a full CAI.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....r+midpipe+dyno

 

haha, akumachan, i love that sig. i havent seen it around much anymore. where'd you get that picture?

And i've read that thread before, but comparing a short vs a true cai, the cai keeps the average temperature the lowest out of all of the intakes available. Maybe having the stock mid-pipe coupled with where my intake is now would be the best, so maybe ill try that out. But the filter is sucking in the coldest air possible from the CAI location, not from inside the extremely hot engine bay. There is no way that more is actually going into the stock "ram air" that stuntin 101 referred to.

 

Altima test = only mod was the cai
.org ref 1/4 = only mod was the cai for comparison
stock intake is NOT a "ram air"

Zach's test was for the midpipe that I already mentioned.

 

I figured it wasnt. Ram air is what the GT Grand Ams have, that slight opening between the hood and the grille/headlight would hardly serve as a ram air. But hey, what do we know jeff? you just a know it all, and im a moronic 19 year old mario andretti. I wish i was 28, then i could know everything too

 

Dude is getting confused about what a resonator is vs intake vs cai vs ram air.

 

all cars have kinks. removing all the kinks w/ better products results in more airflow and power. just cai won't cut it

 

cai paired with a y pipe and 2.5" exhaust will serve you the best, allowing you're car to "breathe" the whole way through. Now im at 15.2 instead of 15.4 after going that route

 

You want to expand on that explaination? "kinks"???

 

all intakes suck in air and all of them do them are a waste of money unless you're buying them for sound, end of story.

 

I've been looking for some dyno sheets that support that. You have one handy?

 

haha, here we go again. what is your proof to support that?

EDIT: I see you have an Injen style intake, understandable why you think it does nothing. We're talking about a TRUE CAI, not just short ram, or Injen "CAI". Sorry, you dont know what you're talking about

 

Especially when my CAI (custom) make my intake alot quieter (vs the JWT cone that I had). With the stock resonator put back on, it got REAL quiet. Perfect for my old ****. haha

 

ha, 37 isnt old. Not even over the hill yet. Still got plenty of youth left in you. And plenty of energy to OWN some people on the org

 

http://www.racingworks.com/bomz_raci...air_intake.htm you can try these...

 

whats that for?

 

Hmmmmmmmmmm

 

i just wanted to coment on the fact that stuntin said the stock intake is getting fresh air 'forced' down it because it is at the front of the car.....and a cai is not because it is in the closed fender well. Well i have a skyline front bumper and there is a big hole in it(because of the style of the bumper) where my PR Cai sits.....i would say that my intake is getting lots of fresh air! If u do not know what the skyline front bumper looks like then u have no idea what im talking about so disregard if this is you. But to anyone who does know what im saying.....well im jus throughing my .2 out about some cai intakes getting fresh air

 

Here is my question, Where do you plug the Air Temp Sensor, for the 99 Maxima, If you where going to use the factory Mid PIPE with the after market Air Cone? I like to know that.