From the looks of it, yeah, you can.

~THT

 

it is a plug and play deal. just depends on how you do the swap.

 

Great! Enthusiasm of other members will keep me away from thing about another grocery getter and more about the swap

 

guess you won't be selling this beast anytime soon

 

will the stock hood clear the intake manifold it looks real high in the pics

 

^Sorry just read the whole thread damn its gunna be a tight fit sucks you cant use a strut but your deff gunna need a nice sway bar with all that power

 

so when all done, what is a 4th gen Max like yours with a 3.5L VQ and a few bolt-ons capable of on the track? That is, approximate 1/4 mile time?

 

HUGE props to you bro. How much did it cost and would you recommend it to a noob?

 

Armani: Expect quarter times in the 13s without any other mods.

schale: Read the thread; this is not like putting a y-pipe on.

~THT

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=396703

...but he has more than just a few bolt-ons

 

I reused my 3.0 bottom 2 mounts, and a 3.5 passenger side mount, because it was in much better shape. The hole on the pass. side of the IM is where the IACV is going to go. Tilley's idea.


Thanks. If you know engines, it isn't that hard. Just takes ALOT of time.

Yeah you can use them.

Haha, sweet. I'd like to paint the car black or silver if I could.

I will probly want headers in the future, I think u are right about the 3.5 gaining more from headers.

 

It’s actually not that hard if you don‘t do anything stupid like attempt to use the 2002 wiring and ECU (Like I did). It was a disaster. You basically use the 4th gen harness on the VQ35 motor and use all 3.0 sensors.

The real big pain in the @ss is removing the cams and sending them to have them drilled and get JWT spacers and put all that sh*t back in without misaligning anything You can avoid that by using your stock VQ30DE cams in the VQ35 but you really oughta use the VQ35 cams. They have 10% more lift.

Other than the timing chain deal (3.0 chains, gears, oil pan, water pump and drill VQ35 cams), it’s similar to a Honda swap. Hell maybe this’ll be as common as Honda swaps someday

Perfect fit. 3.5 and 3.0 bloc molds are the same. The gains are supposed to be better, too. instead of 16-18whp you get 25+whp. I imagine it must sound meaner, too.

Tilley ran 13.32 with so-so A/F and a 2.00 60' but he has more mods (like headers) and no A/C or PS.

What's funny is that everyone doing this swap is either in their late teens (like me and nismo) or in their 20's...

 

this thread is getting good. lol.

i have a couple of questions though:
i know 2.0 headers will fit on 3.5 cause my bro has that on his vq35. i dont get why they are supposed to give better gains?
about the strut bar. it wont clear the im? i dont have one so i dont know.

and i dont consider the way i did the swap a stupid attempt. its not my fault that it ddint work out for you but dont say things like that because people might still want to go that route.

 

The 3.5 cycles through more air than the 3.0. Looking at the 3.5 and 3.0 exhaust manifolds, the ports are nearly the same diameter, so there is power to be made here. Also strut bar will definantly not fit, not that I felt any difference from one anyway.

Using the 3.5 engine harness, and ECU isn't stupid, just another way of doing the swap. Much props to you for doing it.

 

You misunderstood me. It was stupid of me to attempt it without having a full parts car and having to scavenge parts left and right, and not being sure of how they work together.

For someone with a full parts car available like yours, the way you did it is perfectly fine.

 

wow..good job..can't wait to see how it runs

 

so it make sense to use 3.5 exhaust manifolds on a 3.0. what about the other way around?

 

DAMN IT!!...If I knew more details and insites about this thread, I would of bought the 3.5 block...I could of done this but I like to stay boosted (S/C)...I didn't know u can use the timing chain cover from the 3.0...So pretty much everyting is interchangeable.
Good job Nismo!!!
I have the same color car.

 

No, what he's saying is the two manifolds have nearly identical properties which is why headers make such a difference on the VQ35.

~THT

 

so, nismo, once your car is running properly you are going to take a semi-long drive and come up here and go to the track and run my car right?! i am glad everything is going well for you... and if it matters i have 3.0 obx headers on my 3.5....

 

wow

amazing how fast that car will be. Pretty much run a 1/4 mile like a stock 6-spd E46 M3. WOW!

 

Well actually since we are using the 3.0 timing chain on our 3.5's, we can use the 3.0 Stillen Supercharger kit I believe. 400whp at 7psi

 

lol, it's been so long since i've driven my car, I might have forgotten how to drive a stick.. But yeah, BRING IT ON

A S/C 3.5 in a 4th gen would be quite nice. Low boost ofcourse

 

Traction would be nothing but a dream then...

~THT

 

traction is a dream right now with the swap.

 

Now I get this vital info....I am probably boosting 10-12 (2.87 pulley) so I would probably achieve 450 whp...

should I just sell my motor I got now and get the 3.5?hmmmm

 

is your car a daily driver? I wouldn't think it is, but you never know... It be nice to see a boosted 3.5, only one (Maxima) that I've ever seen, and it was t/c'd.

 

It could be a daily driver, but wouldn't want to cuz of gas prices....but mainly in the weekends.

 

out of curiousity, since nismo's car isn't up and running yet, what kinda mpg are you (vsamoylov, tilleys99, jclaw, emmas97, anybody else w/ a 3.5 in their 4thgen) getting?

 

depends whether im driving or tilley is driving. i get around 21mpg (mostly high speed highway) and he gets around 17-18 (mostly beating it on local streets....)

 

depends on how i drive it. if i drive mostly city, i get around 230 miles to a tank. if i drive city/highway, i get about 350 miles to the tank.

 

If you keep the stock ecu (my 99 ecu for example) is this going to hurt your drivability, or would you be able to tune with a add on fuel controller? Just wondering if this swap is doable for us 98-99 4th gens with the lack of ecu tuning.

 

The ECU should be able to compensate for the extra fuel needed. Plus, I am using DE-K injectors, which are larger than the 3.5 injectors.

 

With this Engine and turbo or sc, shieeeet ........ You will own the road !!! With just the Engine, i think not sure but you can take the STI.

 

of course he could. STIs are not all that fast. Sources claim they do 0-60 in 5 seconds, which is completely false. They are actually mid 5 second 0-60 cars. Also, a stock STI does 1/4 mile in no less than approximately mid 13s. Therefore, a 4th gen Max with a 3.5 swap capable of running 13.4 "stock", or even less, should eat STIs all day long.

 

I ran my G-timer at the track and i did 0-60 in 4.6 when i ran my 13.32 but on the street its usually a 5.5

 

That actually seems right for that 1/4 mile time .. E46 territory .. !

 

Nismo after you get the project completed, we should have an immediate Iowa Meet!!!

 

congrats on the project when done u should do a write up and detail what had to be done unless someone alreay has this will be great when done i think im going to try it sometime this summer if I can afford it good luck and nice work so far

 

i want a 3.5 boosted 4th gen