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'97 GLE vs. '99 Prelude 5-spd

Old May 14, 2001 | 09:01 PM
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Ok, last night I posted my loss with the Mazda 626 V6 (go read it to see how my attitude towards my car turned out, not too good), now I have a little bit more confidence again in my car with today's win. Ok, just cruising down the highway in the left lane and the Prelude (looks stock from the outside, no exhaust, altezzas, maybe something under the hood like an intake) is in the far right lane pacing me, he gives a little tug and I see that he wants to give it a go. We get to a light and he revs his engine so many times, its not even funny (I do hear his intake growl). I rev mine like 2 quick times to let him know I'm aware of what's going to happen (I'm thinking I can maybe beat him or at least give him a good run). Light turns green but I ******* out and thought there was a police car three cars back and didn't floor it. He saw that I somewhat backed out and let off the gas too but still proceeded ahead of me. I then wanted to pace him until the next light and it turned out to be racing to the next light. We were even about until we hit about 90 when I started walking him. About 110 we start slowing down to the light. First ones at the light, and he revs it up again. This time there was no one around and I wanted to really give him a good run already knowing that his car seems to be pretty slow for a 5-spd (maybe he had a lot of extra weight, he was by himself though and so was I, so I don't know what was a matter with his car). I read the oncoming light pattern and got a good launch when it turned green. I chirped the wheels and floored it with the overdrive off and I was about 2 car lengths on him from 0-60 and about 80 I turned the overdrive back on and started drifting away. When I hit 100, I had about 3 car lengths and I decided to just hit the hazards at 120 to let him know I gotta slow down for the next stop light. It looked as if he kept up with me for the first 0-80, but it seemed as if I had better top-end. I don't know, I just wanted to post this race to make up for the horrible loss I suffered last night. Sorry for it being so long. Let me know what you guys think. Was this a fluke or what?
Old May 14, 2001 | 09:49 PM
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those preluds are quite fast for a 4 banger, maybe he didnt know how to shift
Old May 14, 2001 | 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Kashoggio
those preluds are quite fast for a 4 banger, maybe he didnt know how to shift
I'm guessing, but his car didn't seem to be very jerky though, seemed as if he was hitting them right on time, but couldn't keep up. It was a 5-spd though by the way he was acting all herky jerky on the way to the lights.
Old May 14, 2001 | 10:12 PM
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why whenever someone loses a race....people always say it's because they can't shift or can't drive. Face it, not everyone whose loses races sucks at driving.
Old May 14, 2001 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
why whenever someone loses a race....people always say it's because they can't shift or can't drive. Face it, not everyone whose loses races sucks at driving.

Maybe because he has an auto. Some 5spd. guys here will probably use that excuse if an auto guy beat a 5spd. car that
should take an auto Maxima. Although, you're not one of them. So, you're an exception. That's good btw. Let's face it, we auto guys just don't get much respect. That's why I don't post anything about me beating 5spd. cars that people think should able to take me. If I did, they probably just call BS on it. Oh well. It's too bad, even though we all drive Maximas.


Ben: good win btw. A win is a win. It doesn't matter whatever reason why that guy lost. You won, that's all that matters.
Old May 14, 2001 | 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kashoggio
those preluds are quite fast for a 4 banger, maybe he didnt know how to shift
i'd have to agree... or he wasn't racing fully...
Old May 14, 2001 | 11:00 PM
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Maybe because he has an auto. Some 5spd. guys here will probably use that excuse if an auto guy beat a 5spd. car that
should take an auto Maxima. Although, you're not one of them. So, you're an exception. That's good btw. Let's face it, we auto guys just don't get much respect. That's why I don't post anything about me beating 5spd. cars that people think should able to take me. If I did, they probably just call BS on it. Oh well. It's too bad, even though we all drive Maximas.


Ben: good win btw. A win is a win. It doesn't matter whatever reason why that guy lost. You won, that's all that matters.
I agree, auto's don't get the respect they deserve. I drove my friend's '99 SE-L auto last week, and hung with a new 330i auto...but I won't brag about it, cuz everyone will just say this is complete crap. oh well..what can ya do.
Old May 14, 2001 | 11:02 PM
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i'd have to agree... or he wasn't racing fully...
Old May 14, 2001 | 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by t2000j


i'd have to agree... or he wasn't racing fully...

somebody's not reading all the posts
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Originally posted by Cumalot



Maybe because he has an auto. Some 5spd. guys here will probably use that excuse if an auto guy beat a 5spd. car that
should take an auto Maxima. Although, you're not one of them. So, you're an exception. That's good btw. Let's face it, we auto guys just don't get much respect. That's why I don't post anything about me beating 5spd. cars that people think should able to take me. If I did, they probably just call BS on it. Oh well. It's too bad, even though we all drive Maximas.


Ben: good win btw. A win is a win. It doesn't matter whatever reason why that guy lost. You won, that's all that matters.
Hey thanks man, I know us autos don't get much respect, but I didn't care if people called this post BS or not, I just wanted to hear true reactions and opinions. I knew someone would say this is full of crap, but it all comes along with the territory, auto beats a 5-spd "yea, right..." they'd say. Well, to hear from another auto is nice, the 5-spd drivers are the ones that usually give me a hard time, not that anyone here has.
Old May 15, 2001 | 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by BenBlanco218
Ok, last night I posted my loss with the Mazda 626 V6 (go read it to see how my attitude towards my car turned out, not too good), now I have a little bit more confidence again in my car with today's win. Ok, just cruising down the highway in the left lane and the Prelude (looks stock from the outside, no exhaust, altezzas, maybe something under the hood like an intake) is in the far right lane pacing me, he gives a little tug and I see that he wants to give it a go. We get to a light and he revs his engine so many times, its not even funny (I do hear his intake growl). I rev mine like 2 quick times to let him know I'm aware of what's going to happen (I'm thinking I can maybe beat him or at least give him a good run). Light turns green but I ******* out and thought there was a police car three cars back and didn't floor it. He saw that I somewhat backed out and let off the gas too but still proceeded ahead of me. I then wanted to pace him until the next light and it turned out to be racing to the next light. We were even about until we hit about 90 when I started walking him. About 110 we start slowing down to the light. First ones at the light, and he revs it up again. This time there was no one around and I wanted to really give him a good run already knowing that his car seems to be pretty slow for a 5-spd (maybe he had a lot of extra weight, he was by himself though and so was I, so I don't know what was a matter with his car). I read the oncoming light pattern and got a good launch when it turned green. I chirped the wheels and floored it with the overdrive off and I was about 2 car lengths on him from 0-60 and about 80 I turned the overdrive back on and started drifting away. When I hit 100, I had about 3 car lengths and I decided to just hit the hazards at 120 to let him know I gotta slow down for the next stop light. It looked as if he kept up with me for the first 0-80, but it seemed as if I had better top-end. I don't know, I just wanted to post this race to make up for the horrible loss I suffered last night. Sorry for it being so long. Let me know what you guys think. Was this a fluke or what?
r u sure it's an 5-spd? 'coz i've proved that a 5-spd prelude is supposed to be faster than auto max (not a manual max), but an auto is not...
i raced with both 5-spd and auto, 'coz i have 2 friends, one got a 5-spd and one got an auto.
Old May 15, 2001 | 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax



somebody's not reading all the posts
i have been reading all the threads.. my friend has a 2k prelude.. i've raced him on the track before.. auto maxima's cannot hang w/ 5-speed preludes...

a 5speed max vs. 5speed prelude thats another story...
Old May 15, 2001 | 09:28 AM
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i have been reading all the threads.. my friend has a 2k prelude.. i've raced him on the track before.. auto maxima's cannot hang w/ 5-speed preludes...

a 5speed max vs. 5speed prelude thats another story...
On the street.....ANYTHING can happen.
Old May 15, 2001 | 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax


On the street.....ANYTHING can happen.
yes on the street anything can happen... all i was trying to say is that i know auto maxima's (in stock form)are faster then 5-speed preludes...
Old May 15, 2001 | 11:06 AM
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Ok, let me settle this. Maybe a 5spd. Prelude can take an auto Maxima. I know that a 5spd. Prelude is pretty quick, I give it that. Perhaps, that guy didn't really know how to drive. Whatever the case, Ben beat him. There's no excuse. If you race often, you should know that anything can happen. If you win, you win. If you lose, you lose. No excuses.

An auto Maxima cannot hang with a 5spd. Prelude? I can give you that maybe a 5spd. Prelude can take an auto Maxima, but an auto Maxima cannot even hang with one? Perhaps, you need to work on your racing skills a bit more. Just because you couldn't hang with one doesn't mean we can't.


A 5spd. Prelude "should" be faster than an auto Maxima. However, there are other factors involved in racing. Why couldn't you guys just give credit where credit is due? Talk about the lack of support for your fellow Maxima driver. It's not like Ben claimed to beat a S2000 in his Maxima.

I have won a few races against a few Preludes and GSRs, for example. After the race, those guys gave me props for winning. They didn't make up an excuse for their loss. They didn't say, "oh, I miss a shift", "I wasn't ready", "I just learn to drive a 5spd.", "I got a fat gf, with the extra weight, that's why I lost", etc. They are racers, they know better then to come up with lame excuses. You win some, you lose some. That's how it is. Again, they gave me props for the win. And that came from Honda/Acura guys. That says a lot, doesn't it? Even the competition gave respect to me. Yet, I come to this board and see that sometimes, you can't even get support from your own. Oh well.
Old May 15, 2001 | 11:37 AM
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Geez I just think 5 speed preluds are quite fast and I think they take a auto maxima. In no way did I say that its a BS story. It was a kill and a good one, good job.
Old May 15, 2001 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by t2000j


i'd have to agree... or he wasn't racing fully...
no way you would beat a 1999 Lude 5-speed if he was going all out. Those things will give the 5speed max a good run! no disrespect for the autos but that guy wasn't racing, one of my friends who had a 1997 Prelude 5-speed could smoke an auto max overdrive on or off (by the way that only matters when you are above 100 and want to stay in 3rd and not shift to 4th I used to have a 92 se auto and when you push that overdrive button you only cancel out 4th gear that is all it does not improve your 0-60 time)
Old May 15, 2001 | 12:13 PM
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yes ben beat him.. i never said his story was false or whatevers... i give him props that he did... yes anythign can happen in races.. and he won this won..

BUT a 1999 5-speed lude should be able to beat an auto maxima.. i wish it didn't... but it does...
Old May 15, 2001 | 12:51 PM
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I beat a Lude 5spd 99

I raced one a few weex ago, I won, but I didn't post cuz of all my mods and he was bone stock and I only won by 3/4 car meaning his front bumper was at my rear wheel well. He wants to race when he gets a CAI, and header, which should be within the current month. Maybe, just maybe with a VB mod I may be able to hang, if I'm lucky. Considering my mods I thought I woulda pulled more but, nah, not likely, if I were 5spd, I would romped him nasty though. Gotta get the modded VB.


Good win Ben.
Old May 15, 2001 | 06:47 PM
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no way you would beat a 1999 Lude 5-speed if he was going all out. Those things will give the 5speed max a good run! no disrespect for the autos but that guy wasn't racing, one of my friends who had a 1997 Prelude 5-speed could smoke an auto max overdrive on or off (by the way that only matters when you are above 100 and want to stay in 3rd and not shift to 4th I used to have a 92 se auto and when you push that overdrive button you only cancel out 4th gear that is all it does not improve your 0-60 time)



Forget it, it's useless to say anything more.
Old May 15, 2001 | 08:23 PM
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Hey thanks man, I know us autos don't get much respect, but I didn't care if people called this post BS or not, I just wanted to hear true reactions and opinions. I knew someone would say this is full of crap, but it all comes along with the territory, auto beats a 5-spd "yea, right..." they'd say. Well, to hear from another auto is nice, the 5-spd drivers are the ones that usually give me a hard time, not that anyone here has.
dont worry about 5speed guys(or girls) are saying, you know that you won so dont sweat them. I guess the automatic is really underated to the 5speed's
Old May 15, 2001 | 10:03 PM
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Ok, I am all ears and I have read all the posts. I know I wasn't supposed to win and people think that I probably made this up, but look, I won like Cumalot said. The driver didn't have an excuse, he was driving for real, and I don't know why he had this evil look on his face when we were done racing. I do know that overdrive off shuts out 4th gear and maybe only somewhat improves the 0-60, but hey, it seemed as if when I needed the 4th gear I turned the overdrive on late at about 90, for perhaps, some more top end. I know anything happens on the street and it seemed just once, just this one time, that an auto max came out on top of a 5-spd prelude. Thanks to everyone that supported me.
Old May 16, 2001 | 04:35 AM
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actually prelude is pretty fast. nice race, i enjoy reading it.
Old May 16, 2001 | 05:51 AM
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Nicely put cumalot....
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