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Old May 31, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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go to the all motor section, and click on the sticky. there is a dyno in there showing the superiority of the 00VI.
Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1chewabacha1
okay. Now i'm just confused. I've been really interested in getting a MEVI because I've seen dynos posted in THIS forum saying that the MEVI was better. It had a MEVI dyno comparison along with a 00VI dyno comparison. Both were running a JWT ECU and PR style intake and had the same conditions. I can't remember what thread it was but i know what i saw. It clearly showed that the MEVI was better,

Does anyone have any proof of the 00VI power claims over the MEVI? Plz, let me see the dynos! Because everyone is planning to get an ECU and basic bolt ons, please use dynos with an aftermarket ECU, exhaust and intake.
I think you're getting them switched around... I've never seen a dyno showing the MEVI being better than the 00VI. Such a dyno probably doesn't exist because it's not true. I've seen multiple ones showing the 00VI > MEVI though.
Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SDot82
This is very true but a max with 00VI/JWT ECU would be a faster car than a max with MEVI/JWT ECU and would be about the same price. Thats what most peolpe were trying to get at.
I already said that. The reason I posted that MEVI+JWT ECU > just 00VI, is because that is what the original poster was asking.
Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I agree with dandymax. MEVI + JWT is great, but 00VI + JWT would be even better.

I'd estimate that changing just ECUs and intake manifolds would yeild these results as far as 1/4 mile is concerned.

JWT + 00VI would be fastest, followed by JWT + MEVI, then TS + 00VI, TS+MEVI, 00VI, and finally MEVI.
is the JWT ecu that much better than the TS? I thought they were more or less the same.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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I would have to say MEVI and JWT is the way to go.... for the simple reason it is a 100% bolton.... no need to fab anything. People are Assuming the JWt+00VI would be better but never really seen any direct before an after dyno's and there is alot of fabrication needed.

In an off topic i am selling my MEVI manifold if anyone is looking for one.... some one hit my car today and i need quick cash for my deductable.. Pm me if interested.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zack342
People are Assuming the JWt+00VI would be better but never really seen any direct before an after dyno's and there is alot of fabrication needed.
You're ASSuming there hasn't been a before an after dyno. BSwithTF dynoed before and after and gained over 10 WHP/10 WTQ peak and power basically throughout the rev-range. He put down 195 WHP with the JWT/00VI combo. This is in an auto btw. That's what most MEVI/JWT 5-SPEEDS put down.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by blazingchimp
is the JWT ecu that much better than the TS? I thought they were more or less the same.

JWT is better with any VI (MEVI or 00VI) because it raises the rev limiter and the TS doesn't (TS can raise the rev limiter on SOME ECUs but not others for some strange reason.) When I say JWT I mean any ECU with a raised rev limiter and when I say TS I mean without a raised rev limiter. A TS ECU with a higher rev limiter would be just as good as a JWT with raised rev limiter.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zack342
I would have to say MEVI and JWT is the way to go.... for the simple reason it is a 100% bolton.... no need to fab anything. People are Assuming the JWt+00VI would be better but never really seen any direct before an after dyno's and there is alot of fabrication needed.

In an off topic i am selling my MEVI manifold if anyone is looking for one.... some one hit my car today and i need quick cash for my deductable.. Pm me if interested.

There's plenty of dyno evidence that the 00VI makes more power at every point in the powerband than the MEVI does.

MEVI is still great because of ease of installation, you can pass smog tests with it, etc. 00VI is for those people who don't care about ease of installation and who don't have to worry about smog testing or code testing, etc.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
There's plenty of dyno evidence that the 00VI makes more power at every point in the powerband than the MEVI does.

MEVI is still great because of ease of installation, you can pass smog tests with it, etc. 00VI is for those people who don't care about ease of installation and who don't have to worry about smog testing or code testing, etc.
There's hope for people that worry about smog testing too. We just finished installing a 00VI on my friend's 95 and the EGR system is fully operational. Not that we needed it though since there's no smog testing here in Florida.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Well when I get dyno'd at Maxus, I am sure there will be MEVI people with similar mods(CAI/ypipe) and we can see teh difference.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Well when I get dyno'd at Maxus, I am sure there will be MEVI people with similar mods(CAI/ypipe) and we can see teh difference.

yeah but your an auto..... I want a straight
00VI/JWT ECU 5speed maxima dyno
MEVI/JWT ECU 5speed maxima
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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And why would it vary between the auto and 5 spd? The 5 spd will put out more hp because of the fact it's 5 spd, but the results will be the same.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eckohb
And why would it vary between the auto and 5 spd? The 5 spd will put out more hp because of the fact it's 5 spd, but the results will be the same.
Well if you compare a 5 speed mevi + ecu to an auto 00vi + ecu then its not really apples to apples, and you'd have to account for the 5 speed vs auto factor.

If I ever go VI (most likely next winter) I'd heavily lean towards the 00vi variant. More fun to install
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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i meant auto VI + jwt vs 5 spd VI + JWT
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chickan
Well if you compare a 5 speed mevi + ecu to an auto 00vi + ecu then its not really apples to apples, and you'd have to account for the 5 speed vs auto factor.

If I ever go VI (most likely next winter) I'd heavily lean towards the 00vi variant. More fun to install
When i said that BSwithTF's auto 00VI/JWT was similar to many MEVI/JWT 5-speed dynos i was just showing the superiority of the 00VI. I thought it was clear as day, guess not.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
When i said that BSwithTF's auto 00VI/JWT was similar to many MEVI/JWT 5-speed dynos i was just showing the superiority of the 00VI. I thought it was clear as day, guess not.
the assumption cannot be made until there is a ligit dyno.......
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Absolutely you can. Transmission type doesn't affect the dyno curve it only affects the peak numbers. You are totally off base if you think the results will be any different with a 5spd than with an auto, except for the peak numbers.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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thank you Neal. Peak numbers wont be the same, but you still can clearly see that 00VI puts out more power throughout the powerband than the MEVI.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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does anyone have their hands on either or both of the dyno curves from a) the MEVI with an ECU combo (preferrably the JWT) and then b) the 00VI either with or without an ECU?
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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also, seeing as how the 00VI seems to be the better option here, is there a place you can order these, or is it basically just finding one on a parts basis from a car thats out of commission?
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by brad kay
also, seeing as how the 00VI seems to be the better option here, is there a place you can order these, or is it basically just finding one on a parts basis from a car thats out of commission?
Basically the latter.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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either someone on the org will be selling their's, or you'll have to get one off a 00-01 Maxima. Also, go to the all motor forums, check out the links with useful info, and you can see the difference between the MEVI and 00VI
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Either way, I'm not going to spend anymore cash on mods until I replace my old, rusted and sticking brake parts. I'll keep working with the MEVI. I'll be heading to the track because thats where it all matters anyway. The MEVI/TS ECU with the raised limiter is still explosive.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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of course its still explosive compared to the USIM. Had it not been for the 00VI, i would have gone the MEVI route. There'd be no need for you to go through the hassle of switching the 00VI when you still get good gains with the MEVI.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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of course its still explosive compared to the USIM. Had it not been for the 00VI, i would have gone the MEVI route. There'd be no need for you to go through the hassle of switching the 00VI when you still get good gains with the MEVI.
Well, it's a step toward more power but I feel their are other components that will bump up the power also, not just switch manifolds all of the time. These cars are like puzzles that have to be figured out.

Actually the only thing that makes the MEVI complete is the ECU upgrade. Without it the car is boring.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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yeah, not having the 7100 rev limiter to access all of that power would be lame. Thats why i like the 00VI, the ECU is not absolutely necessary to reap the benefits from it. Having the extended limiter on with the 00VI would just put us autos into a nicer spot in the rpm range for the next gear. Considering how the USIM drops off power at 5600, and the both VIs continue past 6500, either one would be just fine.
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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00VI for sure. ive got it in my car. although ive never ridden in a mevi+ecu combo, the VI is awesome!
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