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HELP!!! Ive been Challenged by a 2k5 Altima SE-R..

Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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HELP!!! Ive been Challenged by a 2k5 Altima SE-R..

Okay so today my bestes friend got him self a red Altima SE-R...
His previouse car was a 2k MAxima SE and all he had was a Injen intake..
Being as compititve as we are we always use to race each other when I
had my 97 Black Max SE and he always beat me.. When I got my white max
dropped with a CAI and Cat-Back I raced him again and I won.. SO lately
he has been talkin about getting an Altima SE-R (my current dream 4door)
and I knew he was gonna do it but I didnt know it was gonna be soon, I
figured Id be boosted by the time he got it... WELL today he got one and he
wants to run... What do I need to beat him (even though I know I dont have
a chance) or at least keep up with him... Im gonna try and stall him for a bit
and try and sneak in some parts... So far I got Cattman Y pipe, Greddy SP,
Cold Air Intake.. Would a UR pully help and a test pipe ?? this is somethin I can
afford ASAP.. Keep in mind were runnin at a 1/4 mile track.. Is it even possible
to keep up?? stock Altima SE-R 260Hp 6spd 3279lbs.. Vs. 99 Maxima SE 190hp
5spd 3010lbs w/ Cattman y-pipe, greddy sp catback, and CAI..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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if you did an mevi with raised rev limiter you might be able to hold even...but to actually beat him?... I dont think there is any thing that you could 'sneak' in...
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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They can run low 14s stock with a good driver. You're probably gonna get your @ss handed to you. Not much you can do as far as "quick mods" go, unless he shifts at 4500 rpm
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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I like your car, that hood and your rims are hot... I hate to say it lol, but dude that se-r alt. will rock you like nothing....a testpipe and ud pulley will do almost nothing for you.... you need a 50-shot nos, turbo, or Superharger
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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I would not be suprised to see a stock altima se-r with a good driver pull high 13s...
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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QUICK! get a 3.5 swap and a supercharger!!
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Very true... I know I cant beat him but yet I could get on the bottle...
Im not about NO2 but its the cheapest mod with the most gain.. but then
again I honestly doubt Ill go that rout.. I guess Im gonna just swollow my
pride till the right day comes.. SE-Rs runn like mid to low 14s, Ive read
of several NA maximas hitting that time, Did they all have Mevi's and Raised
Revv limiters?? I spoke to Flava 24/7 about the MEVI and he said its not much
gain w/ out a revv limiter.. but no one makes a plug n play ECU for 99 maximas..
I read a thread about it being done but they had to rewire or sumthin.. Dammit, I feel the need for more speed..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Nealoc187 pulled a 14.5 on a bone stock Max... But I am pretty sure with a good driver an se-r could pull a high 13.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kormax97
QUICK! get a 3.5 swap and a supercharger!!
Looks like you got the same rims I do.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by enomik-1
Very true... I know I cant beat him but yet I could get on the bottle...
Im not about NO2 but its the cheapest mod with the most gain.. but then
again I honestly doubt Ill go that rout.. I guess Im gonna just swollow my
pride till the right day comes.. SE-Rs runn like mid to low 14s, Ive read
of several NA maximas hitting that time, Did they all have Mevi's and Raised
Revv limiters?? I spoke to Flava 24/7 about the MEVI and he said its not much
gain w/ out a revv limiter.. but no one makes a plug n play ECU for 99 maximas..
I read a thread about it being done but they had to rewire or sumthin.. Dammit, I feel the need for more speed..
ECU only two or three wires to swicth right? or else get you SMT6 or SMT7 pretty good stuff.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ThisMaxIsTight
I like your car, that hood and your rims are hot... I hate to say it lol, but dude that se-r alt. will rock you like nothing....a testpipe and ud pulley will do almost nothing for you.... you need a 50-shot nos, turbo, or Superharger
MAybe I cant beat him, but I pretty sure I dont need a supercharger or turbo
to runn a low 14s to high 13s
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tedo007
ECU only two or three wires to swith right? or else get you SMT6 or SMT7 pretty good stuff.
Whats a SMT7 or a SMT6?
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by enomik-1
MAybe I cant beat him, but I pretty sure I dont need a supercharger or turbo
to runn a low 14s to high 13s
youre 5spd right? YOu could easily hit low 14s with a y pipe, cat back, intake, and a mevi with JTW raised rev limiter.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Do some weight reduction.

gutted interior/trunk
Racing battery ~12lbs, $100
UR UDP
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by enomik-1
Whats a SMT7 or a SMT6?
its a piggyback computer proven HP go to this forums so you'll know how much diff. it makes

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=408674
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Looks like you got the same rims I do.
yea.. but mine is 18s with nitto tires
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
youre 5spd right? YOu could easily hit low 14s with a y pipe, cat back, intake, and a mevi with JTW raised rev limiter.
YEs I have a 5spd max..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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wow i never knew the SE-R were that quick to run a low 14. Thats pretty freaking crazy. But the question is how much modding can you do to the car?
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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yea.. but mine is 18s with nitto tires
What did you do about getting the wheel caps on the rears??... the damned hub dust cover is too big for the wheel caps.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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When I had my black Max at its peak (before I wrecked it and it never was
the same) I was beating 93 Accords w/ H22 swaps and Civic w/ B18 GSR
motors averaging High to Mid 14s easy.. All I had was Injen CAI, Greddy SP,
and ACT Stage 1 clutch... SO Im sure I was at least runnin a 14.5s..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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What did you do about getting the wheel caps on the rears??... the damned hub dust cover is too big for the wheel caps.
i broke off all the nubs from the 2 center caps (i think it was the rear ones) and super glued it on the rims.

i tried using spacers first but the threads were too short after the spacers and it looked too unsafe. don't want wheel to fly off the hub
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kormax97
i broke off all the nubs from the 2 center caps (i think it was the rear ones) and super glued it on the rims.

i tried using spacers first but the threads were too short after the spacers and it looked too unsafe. don't want wheel to fly off the hub
I think I am going to have to pound in the dust covers so there is enough room... it will be ugly but once the rime is on no one will be able to see it.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
youre 5spd right? YOu could easily hit low 14s with a y pipe, cat back, intake, and a mevi with JTW raised rev limiter.
well, your gonna end up spending the same amount of $ on all that when you could just buy a used SC or a turbo ...

500$ with mevi and all the parts to install it(gaskets, etc..)
400-500$ for ECU and some tuning
500$ cat back and y pipe installed
50-200$ intake will actually decrease your power, zach has dynos to prove this
100$UD pulley

if you used a 50 shot of nos without him knowing, this would really make him shyt his pants !
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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well, your gonna end up spending the same amount of $ on all that when you could just buy a used SC or a turbo ...

500$ with mevi and all the parts to install it(gaskets, etc..)
400-500$ for ECU and some tuning
500$ cat back and y pipe installed
50-200$ intake will actually decrease your power, zach has dynos to prove this
100$UD pulley

if you used a 50 shot of nos without him knowing, this would really make him shyt his pants !
He already has a y pipe, cat back, and a CAI...
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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You'll probably lose but best bet is to probably do all your shifts just before redline. someone did wrote up on how to shift a while back, worth a try trying to find it. Those SE-Rs I think are like 260hp stock.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ThisMaxIsTight
if you used a 50 shot of nos without him knowing, this would really make him shyt his pants !
Damn sounds evil but oh so good... I could only imagen the look on his face..
That would be a KODAK moment.
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Originally Posted by enomik-1
Damn sounds evil but oh so good... I could only imagen the look on his face..
That would be a KODAK moment.
dude if you do that..please video tape it..it would make my year.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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dude just get 75 shot n02
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ThisMaxIsTight


50-200$ intake will actually decrease your power, zach has dynos to prove this
So your sayin me havin an Injen CAI is a loss of power.. I felt a difference
in my pickup after I installed it.. Specially during fall and winter season..


Originally Posted by Chipotle18
dude if you do that..please video tape it..it would make my year.
If this ever happen I will definitly video tape it.. THat would be crazy LOL...

Originally Posted by 96MillyS
dude just get 75 shot n02
Im actually starting to consider this..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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I work at nissan and i have driven both the se-r altima and 350z and i can say that they are identical. The se-r is a very fast car, and is able to hit mid 13's with a good driver. I am sorry but without a supercharger or turbo, there is no chance.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 96white
I work at nissan and i have driven both the se-r altima and 350z and i can say that they are identical. The se-r is a very fast car, and is able to hit mid 13's with a good driver. I am sorry but without a supercharger or turbo, there is no chance.
So it would cost me 3 to 4000 dollars just to beat and SE-R...
Damn Im having a hard time beleiving that.. Then again I guess Ill have to
find out huh...
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I'ts N2O for clarification. Not NOS or NO2 ....

People have run 14.3 w/o MEVI. But from the looks of it, you're not too much into racing at a track, so you do not know how to abuse your car to get that time. You will be

500$ with mevi and all the parts to install it(gaskets, etc..)
400-500$ for ECU and some tuning
500$ cat back and y pipe installed
50-200$ intake will actually decrease your power, zach has dynos to prove this
100$UD pulley
$500 cat-back .. hmm, that's 160 y-pipe, or at least under $200 because a cat-back hasn;t been proven to do much in the way of horsepower. Zacks dynos prove a midpipe does nothing well actually hurts the power curve, a POP still adds hp and keeps the curve decent when used w/o a m/p. Pulley does about as much for 1/4 mile times as a raised rev limter does for a non VI's USDM 4th gen Maxima.

Bottom line, race him to see how it goes, but my money's on the Altima.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I'ts N2O for clarification. Not NOS or NO2 ....

People have run 14.3 w/o MEVI. But from the looks of it, you're not too much into racing at a track, so you do not know how to abuse your car to get that time. You will be

$500 cat-back .. hmm, that's 160 y-pipe, or at least under $200 because a cat-back hasn;t been proven to do much in the way of horsepower. Zacks dynos prove a midpipe does nothing well actually hurts the power curve, a POP still adds hp and keeps the curve decent when used w/o a m/p. Pulley does about as much for 1/4 mile times as a raised rev limter does for a non VI's USDM 4th gen Maxima.

Bottom line, race him to see how it goes, but my money's on the Altima.
Believe me I now how to get the max out of my car... I havent tourcherd it
like my 97 max, but I know how to run street or track... Ive been up against
several cars and won but the reason I ask is cause Ive never been up against
an Altima Se-r that I see is almost as fast a a 350z... I know more or less what
I need to do to max to get it where it needs to be to pull an SE-R.. I was just
asking incase there some other tips or trick I didnt already know about...
In other words what are the main mods that can put a 4th gen max in the mid
to low 14s.. In my head I would say Cat-Back, Y-pipe, C.A.I., Light Fly Wheel,
ACT clutch, UR pully, and Test pipe... I think that would put me in the 14s..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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those SE-R's are fast stock. Good luck.



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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismotic
those SE-R's are fast stock. Good luck.


Thanks man Im gonna need all the luck I can get..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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sneak a blower in and show him whats up
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If you really want to beat him at the track just buy some slicks and lightweight 15in rims to mount them on. The slicks should allow you to jump him off the line and that might give you enough room before he chases you down. I've been able to beat several faster cars in my se-r with slicks that I wouldn't beat without them to the finish line.

Originally Posted by enomik-1
Okay so today my bestes friend got him self a red Altima SE-R...
His previouse car was a 2k MAxima SE and all he had was a Injen intake..
Being as compititve as we are we always use to race each other when I
had my 97 Black Max SE and he always beat me.. When I got my white max
dropped with a CAI and Cat-Back I raced him again and I won.. SO lately
he has been talkin about getting an Altima SE-R (my current dream 4door)
and I knew he was gonna do it but I didnt know it was gonna be soon, I
figured Id be boosted by the time he got it... WELL today he got one and he
wants to run... What do I need to beat him (even though I know I dont have
a chance) or at least keep up with him... Im gonna try and stall him for a bit
and try and sneak in some parts... So far I got Cattman Y pipe, Greddy SP,
Cold Air Intake.. Would a UR pully help and a test pipe ?? this is somethin I can
afford ASAP.. Keep in mind were runnin at a 1/4 mile track.. Is it even possible
to keep up?? stock Altima SE-R 260Hp 6spd 3279lbs.. Vs. 99 Maxima SE 190hp
5spd 3010lbs w/ Cattman y-pipe, greddy sp catback, and CAI..
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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o_O best of luck but I dont think you will be able to even keep... It's like when i raced my 98 max vs a friends 2000 max, both stock and auto. I just couldnt keep. Im ordering a Y-pipe tmrw and now i got an intake... so imma re-race him after the y is installed.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by udienow
o_O best of luck but I dont think you will be able to even keep... It's like when i raced my 98 max vs a friends 2000 max, both stock and auto. I just couldnt keep. Im ordering a Y-pipe tmrw and now i got an intake... so imma re-race him after the y is installed.
His other car is a 2000 Maxima SE 5spd w/ Injen CAI and Stech springs
and I got him in my 99 Max by a good car..
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Originally Posted by Nismo87SE
If you really want to beat him at the track just buy some slicks and lightweight 15in rims to mount them on. The slicks should allow you to jump him off the line and that might give you enough room before he chases you down. I've been able to beat several faster cars in my se-r with slicks that I wouldn't beat without them to the finish line.
That's the best advice you're going to get ... .....

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