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Old 07-10-2005, 01:39 PM
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ECU differences b/w CA and Fed spec

I have a 96 that I'm converting a 5spd. The car was originally purchased in California and I checked the information plate to verify it is a CA spec model. I want to know if I can run a Fed spec ECU without a CEL coming up.
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You should be able to, those ECU's are not very emmision(EGR/EVAP) sensitive.
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Not to contradict you Kevlo, but an org member is having CEL issues running an ECU from a CA spec 95 in his fed spec 95...something about EVAP in CA spec being electronic vs. mechanical in a fed spec.
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I know the early 95 had a different EVAPsystem(Haynes Manual). I do not know if it is a FED/CALI thing. I am pretty sure that was a production date thing.
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96-98 Have same EVAP and EGR system
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Thanks Kevlo.
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I thought CA spec only existed in 99+?
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No. My car is definitely a CA spec.
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All 4th gens had Cali spec, but only 99's had MAJOR differences.
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a 95 fed spec has a mecanical evap (all under the hood), no boost sensor, and the egr runs off the same solenoid as the evap. a lot less complicated to do the exact same crap. all 96-98's are the same.
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So all 96-98 5spd ECUs, regardless of CA or Fed spec, are the same?
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If all 96-98 5spd ECUs are the same, why can't JWT/TS upgrade 97 and 98 ECUs?
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ECU's are not the same. I said the 96-98 have same EGR and EVAP.


In 97 Nissan changed the maker of the ECU, that is why they cannot be upgraded.
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Ahh, gotcha.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
All 4th gens had Cali spec, but only 99's had MAJOR differences.
Yeah thats what I thought... Mainly the extra pre cat and O2. So, is it safe to say that there is no difference between say a 97 fed and CA spec?
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I dout we could find any, if any differences, it would be weaker ECU tuning.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I dout we could find any, if any differences, it would be weaker ECU tuning.
What exactly do you mean by weaker ECU tuning?
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Cali has stricker emmisions and what not, it also has lower grade octane.
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Don't mean to hijack this thread, but if I were to try to put a JWT 96 5speed ECU into a 98 5speed maxima (both fed spec), what would need to be done? What additional modifications would be necessary to not get a CEL? Is there a link someone can redirect me to? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by MaxxAddict
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but if I were to try to put a JWT 96 5speed ECU into a 98 5speed maxima (both fed spec), what would need to be done? What additional modifications would be necessary to not get a CEL? Is there a link someone can redirect me to? Thanks!
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=350138
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Thanks. but I think i'm more confused now!

Intimidating task for a novice like myself.....
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Originally Posted by MaxxAddict
Thanks. but I think i'm more confused now!

Intimidating task for a novice like myself.....
YOu could just leave the codes alone. Depending on where you live it might not even matter that the CEL is on. Here in CO if it is on, the go ahead and run the vehicle anyways and if you pass, then you pass. And these two codes will not effect emissions performance. If worse comes to worse, you could always pull the gauge cluster and reomve the bulb every 2 years.
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Originally Posted by i30ds
YOu could just leave the codes alone. Depending on where you live it might not even matter that the CEL is on. Here in CO if it is on, the go ahead and run the vehicle anyways and if you pass, then you pass. And these two codes will not effect emissions performance. If worse comes to worse, you could always pull the gauge cluster and reomve the bulb every 2 years.
hmmm, are ECUs interchangable?

What I'm asking is a hypothetical question. Suppose I obtain a used 96 ECU and send it to JWT to be modified and I then install it. Now what if later on I want to put my previous 98 stock ECU back in. Could I theoretically plug that puppy back in w/o any probs and the CELs? (suppose I wanted to sell the car and return it to stock settings.)
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Originally Posted by MaxxAddict
hmmm, are ECUs interchangable?

What I'm asking is a hypothetical question. Suppose I obtain a used 96 ECU and send it to JWT to be modified and I then install it. Now what if later on I want to put my previous 98 stock ECU back in. Could I theoretically plug that puppy back in w/o any probs and the CELs? (suppose I wanted to sell the car and return it to stock settings.)
That should work.
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Originally Posted by i30ds
That should work.
Interesting indeed.

One more question: my car is Cali-spec according to the code on the little silver badge on the inner portion of the hood area (followed the instructions on the stickies, where the 12th letter is a "V"). But apparently when I installed my y-pipe I found out that my car is Fed Spec. Would this discrepancy be a factor when searching for replacement 1996 5speed ECU?

Thanks very much. You've been very helpful.
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Only 99cali have differ exhaust, 95-98 Fed/Cali have same exhaust. You 98 is Cali
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Only 99cali have differ exhaust, 95-98 Fed/Cali have same exhaust. You 98 is Cali
so i would need to find a cali 95 or 96 ECU from the junkyard? or would it not matter either way?
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Like said above, it might be better to get a 96 since it would have similar EGR/EVAP equipment
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Like said above, it might be better to get a 96 since it would have similar EGR/EVAP equipment
ok. thanks kevlo911. you've been a great help!

96 cali 5speed ECU it is!
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Originally Posted by MaxxAddict
ok. thanks kevlo911. you've been a great help!

96 cali 5speed ECU it is!
I think he is just referring to getting either cali or fed spec ecu... Just as long it is a 96.
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Originally Posted by i30ds
I think he is just referring to getting either cali or fed spec ecu... Just as long it is a 96.
works out even better! thanks.

now to decide whether it's even worth the $600 to send it in.......
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Originally Posted by i30ds
I think he is just referring to getting either cali or fed spec ecu... Just as long it is a 96.


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Originally Posted by MaxxAddict
works out even better! thanks.

now to decide whether it's even worth the $600 to send it in.......
Oh I think it is... I got a 96 5spd ecu sitting up in my room right now that is ripe for modding! I plan on sending it in as soon as I can stock pile up some cash.
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Oh I think it is... I got a 96 5spd ecu sitting up in my room right now that is ripe for modding! I plan on sending it in as soon as I can stock pile up some cash.
you get it online (carparts.com) or at a junkyard?
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im the person THT was referring to regarding the fed spec vs cali spec...my car is a 95 5speed fed spec, mistakingly purchased a TS cali spec 95 5speed ECU. its throwing codes for the EVAP and a fuel temperature sensor. since the evap is mechanical on my 95, the cali spec ECU is throwing a code because its looking for a different part (electrical EVAP). but the car runs the same as before. i hate CELs, i wish i had the proper ECU
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Originally Posted by MaxxAddict
you get it online (carparts.com) or at a junkyard?
No I got it for $90 from Zack342's 96 I30t 5spd that he bought for a parts car.
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Originally Posted by i30ds
No I got it for $90 from Zack342's 96 I30t 5spd that he bought for a parts car.
oh sweet deal.
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Originally Posted by MaxxAddict
oh sweet deal.
Thats what I thought! Some of the other guys were like
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Originally Posted by i30ds
No I got it for $90 from Zack342's 96 I30t 5spd that he bought for a parts car.

Then 3 weeks later i was in a frenzy to find a 1996 5speed ECU to send to JWT.
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