Off the line
08-29-2005, 12:49 PM
#123
Mass_Media™
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,812
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I'd say better 60 fts b/c r/ts have nothing to do with total 1/4 mile time ...
r/t's have nothing to do with it.....
Power braking is an effective way of getting off the line fast I don't understand what you are talking about when you say its a waste of power....
08-29-2005, 12:51 PM
#124
Mass_Media™
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,812
Originally Posted by LOST
ive seen it too many times people loosing to a car left in auto while they try to shift manualy their auto.. just let it do its thang
08-29-2005, 12:53 PM
#126
Exactly why do we get a rev limiter extension and a VI for better top end .... stock shifts @ 6k, why have the extra 700 
It depends on the power band, but you seem to not know that ... think about its logic, and then post back, not just a "I've seen too many times .....
"
It depends on the power band, but you seem to not know that ... think about its logic, and then post back, not just a "I've seen too many times .....
"
08-29-2005, 12:58 PM
#127
Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 39
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Exactly why do we get a rev limiter extension and a VI for better top end .... stock shifts @ 6k, why have the extra 700
It depends on the power band, but you seem to not know that ... think about its logic, and then post back, not just a "I've seen too many times ..... "
It depends on the power band, but you seem to not know that ... think about its logic, and then post back, not just a "I've seen too many times .....
"
08-29-2005, 01:03 PM
#129
Like others have said, R/T has nothing to do with the time on your time slip, but it is a determining factor on who will reach the finish line first.
example:
Car A reaction .500, 1/4mile 15.5
Car B reaction .300, 1/4mile 15.6
Guess which car is at the finish line first despite running the slower overall time? If you're into street races, reaction time to the green light is extremely important.
example:
Car A reaction .500, 1/4mile 15.5
Car B reaction .300, 1/4mile 15.6
Guess which car is at the finish line first despite running the slower overall time? If you're into street races, reaction time to the green light is extremely important.
08-29-2005, 01:08 PM
#130
Originally Posted by Loe max
If you're into street races, reaction time to the green light is extremely important.
there will be no discussion of this in this sub-forum, only in the specified/designated forum at the designated time ... 
08-29-2005, 01:09 PM
#131
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
there will be no discussion of this in this sub-forum, only in the specified/designated forum at the designated time ... I thought this was what the original topic was about
The kid is 16, unless he has a parent sign a consent form, he's forbidden to even drive up to the staging lights.
08-29-2005, 01:20 PM
#133
Originally Posted by Garrick
Power braking is just as bad as a neutral drop. So that's out of the question.
08-29-2005, 01:25 PM
#134
Originally Posted by Garrick
Seriously guys. I'm not kidding on this one. Could it be possible that he realized he was up against a far superior vehicle. Honestly I think he had to turn or something. But I did catch up to him eventually overtook him.
Honestly I think he had to turn or something. But I did catch up to him eventually overtook him.
08-30-2005, 05:26 AM
#136
Originally Posted by LOST
why? because the trans is designed to shift at certain points. thats why.
Unless you've got a reprogrammed ECU, you are not going to get the most out of your tranny by leaving it in auto.
08-30-2005, 05:30 AM
#137
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Ok ... Damage spamage ... 230k 10 years, and still kicking ...
Put 300k on my 3rd Gen auto and power braked it every chance I got. For the first 30ft, my 3rd Gen was the quickest car off the line I've ever driven...even at 300k, I left many a hot-shot driver with a perplexed look on their face.
There is an art to coordinating brake and gas just right.
08-30-2005, 05:35 AM
#138
Originally Posted by icedout
how do you power brake a car?
Basically, it involves applying just enough pressure momentary on the brake pedal with your left foot while slowly increasing the RPM (with your right foot) to between 1,000 and 1,500 so as to keep your car from moving forward until you are ready to do so.
At which time your left foot moves off the brake and your right foot presses down on the gas, and if you did it just right, you've launched you car without any wheel spin.
Enjoy.
08-30-2005, 03:11 PM
#142
Originally Posted by Garrick
I tried this and it works great. The tires are screaming now! But this isn't something you can do all the time right? Does it slowly decrease the life of you transmission though?
When my tranny had over 200K, it started having a delay from a dead stop such that first gear did not engage until the RPMs went from an idle speed of 650RPM to 950RPM. By increasing the idle speed via powere braking, it helped to eliminate the harsh clutch engagement.
I should add that the delay also did not occur if I pulled away slowly from a dead stop...but unfortunately, I could never get used to driving like a Granny.
Who knows? Maybe I could have gotten 400k on my transmission instead of 300k?
08-31-2005, 04:48 AM
#145
My car seems pretty quick off the line. That's usually where I take all my races. Except for the time I raced an SRT4. He spanked me off the line, but then I caught up because he had like 5 people in the car. If floored my Auto always shifts at 6.5k. The only thing that manuals have over me are better launches, but I can't imagine launching at a higher rpm. My car peels out pretty easily being an auto.
08-31-2005, 07:50 AM
#147
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Try more effecient power delivery and better and more agressive gearing ... 
08-31-2005, 12:19 PM
#149
Originally Posted by Loe max
No kidding, the bottom of 2nd gear on my 5speed VE was much quicker than the top of 1st gear in a auto VQ30 during a little meeting with a local member last year
We'll never know.....
08-31-2005, 12:25 PM
#150
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 487
How are Maximas at top-end speeds? My friend (who has the Trans-Am) and I were talkin' about the STI that I raced, and he told me that the f***ed up his shifting and eventually gave up. I asked him if he would take the STI head to head. he said that he would go at like in the 50mph range because it a bad top-end speed. And it made me wonder how are Maximas top-end speed.
08-31-2005, 12:43 PM
#151
Originally Posted by dr-rjp
Apples to oranges. I wonder how my automatic (and diff) would perform if it had the same number of gears and gear ratios as a 5-speed?
We'll never know.....
We'll never know.....
It'll be apples to oranges no matter what gears you use, because they are completely different in there operation.
If you look at the specs an automatics first gear ratio it's shorter overall than the manuals second gear ratio. You'd think that the automatic would have the upper hand, but it didn't. This was from 30mph, where I'm at 3,000-3,100rpm in 2nd gear while the auto is at 4,800-5,000rpm.
08-31-2005, 02:00 PM
#152
Originally Posted by Loe max
If you look at the specs an automatics first gear ratio it's shorter overall than the manuals second gear ratio. You'd think that the automatic would have the upper hand, but it didn't.
Originally Posted by Garrick
How are Maximas at top-end
if you have no VI, and comparing to those other cars, even w/ a VI .. The STi does suffer some tope end woes, but still not going get beat by a bolt on Maxima.
08-31-2005, 02:05 PM
#153
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 487
I always thought it was good because on the highway I was cruising at like 100mph and I had the need for speed and I floored my Maxima still lurched and seemed to be accelerating and not showing any signs of slowing down.
08-31-2005, 02:08 PM
#155
Originally Posted by Garrick
I always thought it was good because on the highway I was cruising at like 100mph and I had the need for speed and I floored my Maxima still lurched and seemed to be accelerating and not showing any signs of slowing down.
Stock 4th gens lose ~ 20-30 whp from 5.5k-6.5k ..
Real ones show truth, go race an V6 accord from 70+
No street racing ...
you and your stock manifold ..
08-31-2005, 02:44 PM
#158
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Did you ever think of the F/D
if you have no VI, and comparing to those other cars, even w/ a VI ..
The STi does suffer some tope end woes, but still not going get beat by a bolt on Maxima.
if you have no VI, and comparing to those other cars, even w/ a VI .. The STi does suffer some tope end woes, but still not going get beat by a bolt on Maxima.
