using 87 octane...
09-01-2005, 05:16 PM
#4
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
You save 3dollars and get worse MPG?
09-01-2005, 05:20 PM
#6
I will be hiding in 500 yards away and will be aiming the sniper at you at the gas pump. The moment you press any button other than Premium, you can be damned sure that my bullet will take out you and your car. The armor piercing bullets will finish you first and then take out your car by hitting the gas tank. Your car will then thank me.
Nah, Im just joking dude. Hope that scared you away from low octane rating.
Nah, Im just joking dude. Hope that scared you away from low octane rating.
09-01-2005, 05:32 PM
#8
Originally Posted by goldtooth
I will be hiding in 500 yards away and will be aiming the sniper at you at the gas pump. The moment you press any button other than Premium, you can be damned sure that my bullet will take out you and your car. The armor piercing bullets will finish you first and then take out your car by hitting the gas tank. Your car will then thank me.
Nah, Im just joking dude. Hope that scared you away from low octane rating.
Nah, Im just joking dude. Hope that scared you away from low octane rating.
maxima.org sniper u copy that over? tsssshhhhed.. I copy,
tsssshhhhhed. trash the driver, save the max over,
tsssshhhhhed." Roger that!! tssssshhhhhhhed..
-sorry i was bored-
09-01-2005, 06:25 PM
#9
Originally Posted by DrTySOUFMaX23
wtf?!?! hahaha.. "uhhh, we gotta man down here that got taken out by a
maxima.org sniper u copy that over? tsssshhhhed.. I copy,
tsssshhhhhed. trash the driver, save the max over,
tsssshhhhhed." Roger that!! tssssshhhhhhhed..
-sorry i was bored-
maxima.org sniper u copy that over? tsssshhhhed.. I copy,
tsssshhhhhed. trash the driver, save the max over,
tsssshhhhhed." Roger that!! tssssshhhhhhhed..
-sorry i was bored-
09-01-2005, 06:29 PM
#10
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PREMIUM OR DEATH !
I quote from the Laws of Hammurabi,concerning Maxima Gasoline and High Prices
(yup, they found King Tut's Max. That's one car they built a whole pyramid to protect
)
If one shall gaze upon the gasoline giver,and sample of 87 octane is placed in the sacred temple of Maxima,then THOU SHALT BE PUT TO DEATH!
just playing , of course
I quote from the Laws of Hammurabi,concerning Maxima Gasoline and High Prices
(yup, they found King Tut's Max. That's one car they built a whole pyramid to protect
) If one shall gaze upon the gasoline giver,and sample of 87 octane is placed in the sacred temple of Maxima,then THOU SHALT BE PUT TO DEATH!
just playing , of course
09-01-2005, 06:36 PM
#11
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09-01-2005, 07:05 PM
#14
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haha, there is no change but tiny gas milage, been using it since i bought my max in 98 never had a problem yet, runs brand new, if thats not enough proof nothing is, i dont race or go fast so maybe premium would help you there but theres little difference
09-01-2005, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismotic
nobody uses gasoline anymore. Vegetable Oil is where it's at.
Would a substitue like I can't believe it's not butter spray work as well? It's less fattening and I'm trying to be health concious. WHat's good for me is good for my car.
09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PoKKi
I was using 87...I actually got better mileage. But basically you'll notice a decline in performance.
09-01-2005, 10:32 PM
#21
Just like most of you said, this threads pops out every once in a while and I just don't see why should this question stand-the difference between super and regular stays appoximatly the same and you save like 2-3$ a tank. Just my .2 
09-01-2005, 10:50 PM
#22
Originally Posted by Wills98MaxSE
- Maxima's get on the average get 30mpg city/ 35 highway. Not bad for a 6 banger. Actually, it's pretty dang good.
- If you can't afford the premium gas, why own a Maxima?
- Putting in 87 will eventually destroy the engine. Because the engine is designed to run on a higher octane, it trys to compensate by changing the timing, and as a result, the engine runs hotter from the pings-misfires. It WILL damage your engine, over time. P e r i o d.
- If it's dire $$$, put in mid-range. Midrange is less harmful, but not great either.
- MATH TIME. With gas running $3.50-4 a gallon, remember, if your car gets poorer fuel economy, the savings might not be worth it. For example, if your Maxima gets 30mpg, you get ~500 miles on the tank (what I get). If putting in 87 octane nets you 430 miles, that's a 13% drop in fuel effiency. If premium 13% more in price, then yes, it's economical. If it's not, then you're actually wasting money buying a cheaper fuel.
"...The piston can overheat and knocking can and will occur. This knocking is caused by ignition of the gas/air mix in your cylinder before the spark of the spark plug. This causes temperature and pressure peaks that will melt your piston, crack your cylinder head, and drop one of your exhaust valves. You have heard about those abrupt deaths of air cooled engines..."
There are hundreds of articles on this issue of octane misfiring.
09-01-2005, 11:21 PM
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Towards the end of my ownership with the Maxima, I just put regular in and it drove perfectly fine. It wont really hurt anything, but you will lose performance and MPG, to be honest the engine in my maxima did not hesitate or ping.
09-01-2005, 11:49 PM
#27
Originally Posted by Fork
Did you all miss this link? Couple points:
- Maxima's get on the average get 30mpg city/ 35 highway. Not bad for a 6 banger. Actually, it's pretty dang good.
- If you can't afford the premium gas, why own a Maxima?
- Putting in 87 will eventually destroy the engine. Because the engine is designed to run on a higher octane, it trys to compensate by changing the timing, and as a result, the engine runs hotter from the pings-misfires. It WILL damage your engine, over time. P e r i o d.
- If it's dire $$$, put in mid-range. Midrange is less harmful, but not great either.
- MATH TIME. With gas running $3.50-4 a gallon, remember, if your car gets poorer fuel economy, the savings might not be worth it. For example, if your Maxima gets 30mpg, you get ~500 miles on the tank (what I get). If putting in 87 octane nets you 430 miles, that's a 13% drop in fuel effiency. If premium 13% more in price, then yes, it's economical. If it's not, then you're actually wasting money buying a cheaper fuel.
More info: http://www.msgroup.org/TIP037.html
There are hundreds of articles on this issue of octane misfiring.
- Maxima's get on the average get 30mpg city/ 35 highway. Not bad for a 6 banger. Actually, it's pretty dang good.
- If you can't afford the premium gas, why own a Maxima?
- Putting in 87 will eventually destroy the engine. Because the engine is designed to run on a higher octane, it trys to compensate by changing the timing, and as a result, the engine runs hotter from the pings-misfires. It WILL damage your engine, over time. P e r i o d.
- If it's dire $$$, put in mid-range. Midrange is less harmful, but not great either.
- MATH TIME. With gas running $3.50-4 a gallon, remember, if your car gets poorer fuel economy, the savings might not be worth it. For example, if your Maxima gets 30mpg, you get ~500 miles on the tank (what I get). If putting in 87 octane nets you 430 miles, that's a 13% drop in fuel effiency. If premium 13% more in price, then yes, it's economical. If it's not, then you're actually wasting money buying a cheaper fuel.
More info: http://www.msgroup.org/TIP037.html
There are hundreds of articles on this issue of octane misfiring.
How the hell you guys get 500 miles to teh tank?
I'm lucky if I get 350
09-02-2005, 04:44 AM
#28
Originally Posted by optimus310
How the hell you guys get 500 miles to teh tank?
I'm lucky if I get 350
I'm lucky if I get 350
09-02-2005, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by optimus310
How the hell you guys get 500 miles to teh tank?
I'm lucky if I get 350
I'm lucky if I get 350
09-02-2005, 06:27 AM
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Driving like a grandma = good gas mileage.`
BTW putting 87 octane, after a while, will fukc up your knock sensor and fool it into retarding timing. There is a noticeable difference between normal timing and pulled timing, I measured it on the butt dyno (SAE corrected).
BTW putting 87 octane, after a while, will fukc up your knock sensor and fool it into retarding timing. There is a noticeable difference between normal timing and pulled timing, I measured it on the butt dyno (SAE corrected).
09-02-2005, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by KCMaxima98
The max does not get no 35 mpg 
. Even if you drove 55 mph and shifted at 2k rpm that would not happen.
. Even if you drove 55 mph and shifted at 2k rpm that would not happen.
09-02-2005, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Driving like a grandma = good gas mileage.`
BTW putting 87 octane, after a while, will fukc up your knock sensor and fool it into retarding timing. There is a noticeable difference between normal timing and pulled timing, I measured it on the butt dyno (SAE corrected).
BTW putting 87 octane, after a while, will fukc up your knock sensor and fool it into retarding timing. There is a noticeable difference between normal timing and pulled timing, I measured it on the butt dyno (SAE corrected).
09-02-2005, 07:15 AM
#34
Originally Posted by goldtooth
I will be hiding in 500 yards away and will be aiming the sniper at you at the gas pump. The moment you press any button other than Premium, you can be damned sure that my bullet will take out you and your car. The armor piercing bullets will finish you first and then take out your car by hitting the gas tank. Your car will then thank me.
Nah, Im just joking dude. Hope that scared you away from low octane rating.
Nah, Im just joking dude. Hope that scared you away from low octane rating.
. Gas prices won't go down much, once supply comes back up the stations will have to make up for some profit loss for running out/people buying less.
09-02-2005, 09:46 AM
#37
Originally Posted by Wisky97SE
Ive always read that but I think its a misconception that it will hurt the knock sensor. The knock sensor is always working and sensing the octane rating, it senses the octane of the fuel you put in the car and the ECU adjusts the timing accordingly. By putting 87 octane in, no doubt your knock sensor (provided it is working correctly) will retard the timing to prevent knock but IIRC returning to premium fuel , the knock sensor will advance the tmiing.
i dont think ur knock knows what octane ur putting in .. nor can it sense what octane... it is cluelesss to octane it only senses the knocks.. and the knock wont retard timing just cause u put 87 ocatane.. it will retard teh timing even with 93 granted u have knocks.. the knock sensor cant sense the octane jsut the knocks.. the 87 give smore knocks... (popular belief.. that I follow as well) thus the ECU will change timing....
im jsut saying... incase im misinformed please let me know.. so i dont sound like an idiot at one of the meets.. = )
09-02-2005, 10:11 AM
#40
Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
How do you say that Maximas get 35mpg? On the stealership's window sticker, it says that Maximas get 21 mpg in the city. I certainly don't get 35 mpg.