In reference to the possible starter kill involving the cruise, the wire that you are talking about on the solenoid is not thin at all. I noticed a hot wire going to the back of the solenoid (12mm bolt) and the wire leading to the solenoid to the starter and then one more wire which I believe you are talking about. It comes from a wire harness and appears to be soldered to the back of the solenoid. Is this the wire you are describing? Is it a ground or what? I,m sure that if I took this wire out of the loop, the car would not start at all. I,m hesitant about doing the relay method until I find out whether or not the relay could support the possible current that may flow through it. Do you think the relay would be able to support it or not? I could not find any other wires to the starter so I,m assuming my findings until otherwise notified. TYIA for a response.

BTW, the green/white wire does get 12 volts after ASCD is turned on. I already have a tap from that wire in hopes of some good news.

 

There are only two wires which lead to the starter solenoid. One is a thick black cable which comes directly from the positive battery terminal. The other is thinner, and comes from the Inhibitor Relay. It is black with a light color (white or yellow) tracer. This is the wire to disconnect. There is an electrical connector just a few inches away from the solenoid. Go to http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/starter.html and look at the diagram labeled Torque Specs for '96 Maxima. It shows the wire and connector.

Yes, and here is the reason. All the current which passes through that thinner wire already comes through a relay, the Inhibitor Relay.

 

Oh what a relief it is. I was just unsure since the ASCD relay and Inhibitor relay are two different relays and if they were equal as far as the amount of current they each hold. Am I correct to assume that the wire in question is merely a "permission wire"? Don,t want to sound like I,m beating a dead horse, but you must realize that if I do a mod on my wife,s car and fails because of it, she is going to kick my........beat my........get the idea!

Thanks Dan.

 

Your previous posts indicate a good understanding of how a relay works. Perhaps you didn't realized it, but the starter solenoid is also a relay.

The starter solenoid has two functions.
1) To physically engage the starter pinion gear with the engine ring gear.
2) To complete a high-current electric circuit which connects the battery positive terminal cable with the starter motor internals.

So now you can see what you called a "permission wire" is really the signal wire to a high-current relay.

Here's an idea you could use to reassure your wife. When you install the auxiliary relay near the starter motor you could also run a relay bypass to a toggle switch located in some easily reached part of the engine compartment. With this bypass switch "closed" the starter solenoid signal wire would be connected just as it was before this anti-theft mod was installed. You can test this yourself and then give her instructions.

 

The fuel pump relay is situated near the floor, behind the plastic kick panel just to the left of the driver's feet. You can remove the panel and put a toggle switch in the relay coil circuit. Install that switch at the top edge of the panel. It will be in an unobtrusive location just to the left of the hood release control. This theft deterrent could be used in addition to, or instead of, the no-crank relay previously discussed.

 

Good idea! Would a 10 amp switch be sufficient or would 20 or 30 be better?

 

10 amps is more than enough.

 

hey guys i have a question regarding a relay on my positive battery terminal. randomly my car will have absolutely zero power whatsoever. I'll pop the hood and mess with this relay on my positive terminal (it looks like it's broken but that's the way it was when I bought the car). once I mess with it enough my power will come back. I'm wondering what this relay is (one of the wire bundles go to the starter so something to do with the starter?) Any advice would help along with what the part is and where I can find it. When I try to type in the number in the picture I can't find anything. No one seems to know what it is. Thanks guys. Btw I just noticed this is a 4th gen forum my car is a 5.5 gen.

 

That is not a relay. It is a 120 amp fuse. Because of the amperage, the correct term is fusable link.