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Old 09-18-2005, 07:27 AM
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Stay with stock. I had the frankencar intake with stillen pop charger. Removed it (got tired of the sound. to loud after awhile.) I then put the resontor back on. Alittle better as far as sound goes, but still had lag in the lower rpms. Went with the full stock intake, k&n filter. Much better throttle responce. No more lag, quieter. Car runs much better.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:34 AM
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AEM is kick @$$. The only problem is that the word Maxima is not in their vocabulary. They JUST released a Cold-Air (not even V2) for 04-05 (6th Gen).
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:49 PM
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Stay with stock. I had the frankencar intake with stillen pop charger. Removed it (got tired of the sound. to loud after awhile.) I then put the resontor back on. Alittle better as far as sound goes, but still had lag in the lower rpms. Went with the full stock intake, k&n filter. Much better throttle responce. No more lag, quieter. Car runs much better.

I did the exact same thing. Got rid of the frankencar and went back to full stock. When I did this though, it felt like the engine was choking at higher rpms. Kind of like it wasn't getting enough air. So I took the air box off and stuck a cone filter on the mid-pipe. Do you feel this at all or is it just me? The engine seems to feel better with a better breathing filter like a cone.
 
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The stock set-up is the most efficient. You can modify the air cleaner cover to reduce restrictions, but it may increase the noise. The main idea is to get the most amount into the engine with the least amount of restrictions.
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i've been thinking of relocating the box to somewhere else...or atleast a tube from somwhere else..
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:30 PM
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DAMMIT read the stickies


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read posts #49-#50 in the Modification FAQ's

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=258184&page=2
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Old 09-20-2005, 07:22 PM
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quick question...does anyone know if any other car's stock airbox will fit the maxima???something bigger maybe?
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LOL well now that you ask i actually made an adapter plate and put a 4 cyl camry airbox on the max once and it worked quite well but looked really messed up and the bottom half didnt have the right angle to get any piping to suck cool air so it was kinda pointless. i also have an airbox from a V6 contour, eclipse gst and 03 corolla S thats pretty big that i could rid somthing up with and show pics and let you know if you REALLY want me to lol. let me know -Ryan
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i REALLY WANT U TO!!
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:14 PM
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ok if i can tomorrow ill rig it up for ya, im assuming the bigger the better so ill use the corolla one sense its massive.... i hope it fits lol if not ill show you the camry one cause thats pretty big as well -Ryan
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:16 PM
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The best n/a intake for the 4th gen is the stock one. It registered higher hp on the dyno for many people on the org, including me, compared to there CAI. I paid a pretty penny for an Injen a couple years ago, and the power difference between it and stock is amazing once you switch back. It dosen't sound as good, but It's definitly got more tq.
 
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people that tell you there aftermarket intake is better than the stock one, just say that cause either they think more noise = a faster car, or are just too embarassed to admit they wasted there money.. i had the place racing one on my old car, with a full stillen exhaust. the intake made a dramatic loss in low end power vs. the stock one
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yeah...hacked isnt soo good either.
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Originally Posted by njmodi

Stock intake > all other intakes.
There is some other thread out there that shows stock intake actually has better gains then most aftermarket ones
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i just wanna see other stock intakes in our cars....and a dyno w/ a KnN square filter.
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Old 09-21-2005, 04:15 AM
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stock w/a K&N drop in and call it a day.

If you can hear your intake growl...ur losing pwr.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron Scimitar
stock w/a K&N drop in and call it a day.

If you can hear your intake growl...ur losing pwr.
huh? tenchar
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Originally Posted by cefiro8701
huh? tenchar

Aftermarket intakes are big on sound and not on power. (speaking from someone w/ an automatic and a Frankencar)

Although i miss the sound of my Frankencar, i don't miss the power loss.
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OMG. So much misinformation. Stock is NOT the best setup. People lose power with aftermarket intakes because of the loss of the STOCK RESONATOR, nothing else. A true cold air intake with the stock resonator will have added flow, cooler ambient air, plus stock-like throttle response and punch.

And unlike what some ppl here think, a free-flowing filter element will not cause you to lose power. The loss of intake restriction has nothing to do with the losses ppl see with aftermarket intakes.
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OMG. So much misinformation. Stock is NOT the best setup. People lose power with aftermarket intakes because of the loss of the STOCK RESONATOR, nothing else. A true cold air intake with the stock resonator will have added flow, cooler ambient air, plus stock-like throttle response and punch.

And unlike what some ppl here think, a free-flowing filter element will not cause you to lose power. The loss of intake restriction has nothing to do with the losses ppl see with aftermarket intakes.
Which resonator? The one in front of the maf, or the one by the tb?
 
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Originally Posted by nonspin
Which resonator? The one in front of the maf, or the one by the tb?
The one that connects to the TB. The thing before the MAF is the airbox
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Originally Posted by nismology
OMG. So much misinformation. Stock is NOT the best setup. People lose power with aftermarket intakes because of the loss of the STOCK RESONATOR, nothing else. A true cold air intake with the stock resonator will have added flow, cooler ambient air, plus stock-like throttle response and punch.

And unlike what some ppl here think, a free-flowing filter element will not cause you to lose power. The loss of intake restriction has nothing to do with the losses ppl see with aftermarket intakes.
I disagree. The only true cold air intake for the 4th gen is the place racing one. Not everyone wants to cut a hole in there car to place it. As for as any other intake goes, nothing works better than stock for automatics. This is from personal experience. Some people like the extra sound from aftermarkets, and must work well above a certain rpm range. But automatics for the must part do not make it to that range. We need power from the low rpm level. For that, nothing beats stock.
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If you don't want to drill a hole in the fender fine, that's on you. That doesn't mean that it's not better than stock if you reuse the stock resonator.
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I am going by personal experience with 1)a frankencar midpipe and stillen pop charger., 2) replaced midpipe with resonator and pop charger . 3) went with a full stock setup. I also tried a injen intake for about a week (borrowed from a friend). Of the 4 setups, the stock had the best low range perfomance, smoothest throttle response, best sound (for my taste). There are times now that I have to actually pay attention to the speedometer because the car runs so much smoother. When I had the intake on, the sound alone kept me aware of the speed I was going.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:39 AM
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Notice how i didn't say the frankencar intake with resonator is the best. It's clearly not, since it sucks up hot underhood air. I said the PR CAI with stock resonator is best, because you retain the response of stock while having access to more cool air.
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Agreed. However, in order to get the best results from the PR CAI, you would have to drill a hole in the fender in order to get the ambient air from outside. And like I stated before, alot of people, including myself, do not want to do that. So therefore, the other option that I recommend is stock.
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:38 PM
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i was a fan of the hacked air box due to its price, but i think i like my whistling short ram sounds kinda mean
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:43 PM
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I'm surprised to hear certain people say the stock box is best. Believe it or not, after I installed a Stillen High-flow intake, I swear I gained 15 hp...literally. I installed the stock box again (with a K & N drop-in as an experiment) and noticed a significant reduction in power (little better than stock). All-in-all, I loooooooooooooooove the results of the Stillen...
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Read the intake article on my website...
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I love that people say they "gain" power with stock airbox. Wouldnt a gain be over stock?
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Originally Posted by zander
I love that people say they "gain" power with stock airbox. Wouldnt a gain be over stock?
They're referring to a gain over an aftermarket intake. So technically yes, they are only returning to stock power levels.
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mine seemed to really negate the y pipe i installed, car seems so much slower but the sound really plays it up. will be swapping mine tommorrow probably.
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I spent $150 on that Stillen high-flo bull...the only reason I don't take it off is because I spent so much so I might as well use it...I like the sound too it's kinda nice...but man I can't believe it's acctually taking away from the performance
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Read the intake article on my website...
I read it. Pretty decent article. But you still haven't given ONE reason why the PR CAI w/stock resonator isn't better than stock.
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Originally Posted by nismology
I read it. Pretty decent article. But you still haven't given ONE reason why the PR CAI w/stock resonator isn't better than stock.
Because nobody has proven it IS better. Besides, my article is biased towards not spending any money at all, because I'd rather give up the maybe 2 WHP and save all that extra money and spend it on something more worthwhile.
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I like stock with blitz sus power lm air filter I just put in
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Because nobody has proven it IS better. Besides, my article is biased towards not spending any money at all, because I'd rather give up the maybe 2 WHP and save all that extra money and spend it on something more worthwhile.
The benifits of the stock resonator are clear (throttle response and low and mid-range torque). The benifits of a true CAI are clear (long tubing stores a column of air and pulls in ambient air). Dave B, a respected org member, tested basically all the intake setups including stock and said the PR CAI with the stock resonator was the best for drivability. Your article is pretty accurate, but it makes some assumptions that i don't agree with, like stock being best hands down, or the snorkel being responsible for the low-end loss. The snorkel has NOTHING to do with it. If you read up on how a helmholtz resonator works, you'll see that it's the loss of THAT resonator that causes torque and throttle response losses.

I'm gonna need you to formulate a reason as to why the PR CAI with stock resonator CANNOT be better than stock. Assumptions aren't gonna do it, sorry...
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