...In the Chi-town area, no A/C is death.....you can either sit in traffic, or sit and sweat ..in traffic.

 

I've had a '93 and I have a '97. I know the difference. Trust me.

 

I always find it funny when people say that. I mean seriously, who cares that it's a family sedan? It's not like it's a rule that you must have a domestic V8 RWD running 10's if you're modding a car, there's a middle between the two extremes, it all depends on what you're aiming for. Live and let live.

 

I've played the maxima game



time to move on to bigger and better things

 

I don't accept the premise of the question. You don't have to sacrifice PS and A/C to reach 400hp. If I were to take the question literally....Hell yeah, if I only have to remove my A/C and PS to get 400hp!!! Woohoo, 190hp->400hp!!!!

This thread sucks.

 

me too. i never realized the subaru wrx was a 4 door, mitsubishi evo,m5's, older m3's audi a4-6-8. mercedes evo too(late 80's)

 

werd im takin my max 2 da max




that was super gay :gay:

 

well f*cking move on, dont discourage me or anyone else - why the **** do you care what I do to my 4 door grocery getter?

OOOoooo you got a classic rustang on spray...WOW!!!!! Leave your negative and pointless comments out, no one wants to read your crap.

 

yea that really was . .

 

Why don't you just state wth you are trying to accomplish vs asking these vague questions?

 

I thought it was just a general hypothetical question

 

ouch...soulfly has struck

 

vague?

its a yes or no question

 

The part about 400+hp/tq? is kind of vague. Is it 400+ hp or is it 400+ torque?

 

both........

 

whoops, I meant the IDEA of Bijan having a boosted car. He's put alot of work into his car and learning how to modify it. I respect that.

 

Do whatever you want, I could care less. There are people on here who have done great things with their maximas, but they are the ones you will never see post retarded threads such as this.

My point is the maxima was never designed to go fast or corner extremely well. The 3000GT/Stealth crowd just broke into the 140mph traps and look how long they've been around, and look at their starting base. Look at Matt93SE... he has the best handling car on this site, a dedicated track car and even he decided it just isn't worth it to race a nose heavy, understeering, front tire eating SOB anymore.

I find the Mustang comment rather funny, seeing is I purchased it 12/29/2002 and I purchased my white Maxima 7/31/03.

This is just another worthless thread from a member who has pipe dreams of "just slapping a turbo on" when at the same time their car isn't even in peak running condition.

If you don't want to read my crap, then put me on your IL

 

Wow. Ford not starting again this morning? Edge down Mr. Bitterpants.

 

why do you need AC anyway...is that not what windows are for? no doubt i would do it!!

 

ill take 400hp anyday and ill be happy to give up my a/c

 

Don't quit the day job















kind of ironic you say that, considering it starts right up with ease, where as Bijan and a few others are having starting along with other general drivability issues .

 

winter's coming up, sure hope you live in Cali if you don't have AC

 

I'm sayin. If you could afford to buy a maxima, chances are you could probably afford a coupe V8 or even something like and older 300zx. Personally, I wanted four doors and a manual tranny and I couldn't find that on any other cars with the torque and hp of the max. And then when I finally get to where I can afford the basic mods, I'll at least be over 200 fwhp. Well, if the car was like brand new.

And I thought the question about if you would give up AC for 400 hp was just a question to see how important each were to you. The guy wasn't even saying that he thought there's a way to actually get 400 hp by dumping your AC, or you PS too (since people keep saying that) was he?

 

I got smoked by a brand new Mustang GT on the way home from Target this afternoon. The b4574rd even gave me a head start from the light. So, I'm not in any kind of mood to take guff from a Ford driver such as yourself.

Now, I'm not implying that you are a traitor... after all you are a young man in the prime of his life, why shouldn't you own a GT of questionable reliability? I'm just saying that I however, require a more refined type of motorcar. A motorcar suited to a much more mature lifestyle. I no longer have a need to impress the hoochies of yore.

Plus, I know damn well that I could have beat him if only I had thrown the extra-pulp orange juice, 24 pack of Northern toilet tissue, and 12 pack of Bounty out the window before launch. My power-to-weight was all off.

 

If you care less why are you giving me ****?

Retarded thread huh? I can't see what people think about the subject?
No need to explain your point, you're not teaching me anything. I know the differences in a sports car and a family sedan.

Doesnt matter when you purchased the car, if your plan is to make it fast...do it

Pipe dream of slapping a turbo on is not nearly describing me. And yea, my car isnt in peak condition because of my starting hesitation. Yea, forgot about that...that means Ill never have more power huh...

 

I thought the point of this whole site was to provide a forum for people who modify their cars (or would like to) to the point where they approach performance and handling levels of more race-worthy cars. The whole idea is to make the car do what it was not really designed to do, but still can be made to do fairly well for a FWD sedan. It's just a friendly discussion, mate, not a technical debate.

 

mine was

 

To answer your original question:

On a daily driven car, I would not sacrifice AC or power steering in the search for more power.

 

Why would you need to remove these to attain this "hp"??? Since clearly I have to plain out just ask that question

 

Eaton blower in the AC compressor location, maybe? I doubt you could get 400 hp out of it, though, except just maybe 400 hp at the crank. They're pretty inefficient at higher boost levels.

 

I've seen one turbo set up that moves right up in front. So you lose a bunch of crap like AC or whatever. But then again why do we have to guess?

Then again, why use a diff SC when there's a SC already available that doesn't require the removal of ac.....

 

Hal's new setup? That's the way I'm doing it, if it ever happens.

 

I live in Missouri where some days can be unbearable but for 400hp.. yaa I'd do it

 

I think that everyone here who says they would give up AC to have 400 hp doesn't live where it's hot. When it's 98 degrees out and humid, it flat out sucks to not have AC. Especially if you're stuck in traffic, or just going to the grocery store and it's slow going. Even with the windows down, it's hot, it's loud, and it's freaking windy. If you live in Norcal, losing AC is no biggy. But imagine showing up for work with a bunch of sweatstains on your nice clothes because you gave up AC to get a couple of extra hp.

And FWIW, 400 whp is not that great. I mean, it is a ton of power, but do you realize how little you get to use it? My car isn't at 400whp, it's more like 350whp and there are very few areas where I can open it up. It's dangerous to use that kind of power in most areas. I spend a lot more time just driving like a normal person with the AC blasting than I do speeding like a maniac. I've got friends w/ 500whp and 600 whp cars that won't give up their AC because it's just not worth it unless you primarily race your car. Everyone who says they would do it in a heartbeat hasn't owned a car with that kind of power because the dream is a lot better than the reality. Think about it this way, you use the AC in some way or shape a good deal of the time you drive (defrost and so on), but you'll only use all 400whp about 5% of the time, and that's a generous estimate.

At 18, giving up your AC sounds cool. Hit your mid 20's, and it sounds retarded.

 

I couldnt agree more.

 

I've driven un-air-conditioned VW vans and motorcycles for so long that having no AC is no big deal. I use it maybe 5% of the time, and that's here in hot ol' Texas. Still, it gets hot enough sometimes that I'm glad I have it when I want it.

Have to ask again, though, under what circumstances do you have to lose the AC to get 400 hp?

 

Jeff (shadow) - Im a slim dude, I dont get hot TOO easy. But I see your point. I would have a beater w/ AC of course.

Jeff92 - AC isnt a huge benefactor for me. If I dont want it, it SURELY could provide a lot of space.

But to answer you partially....I took a radiator out the other day, and just sat there looking - the condensor (is that what its called?) -- thing that sits in front of the radiator. With all that gone, and the battery in the trunk, wow thats a lot to work with. I want to build it once, right, and make it work efficient with as much heat away from the engine as possible. Ill keep ya updated

 

Do what you like. But AC isn't all about cold air. If you ever have to contend with fogged up interior windows etc.. the AC helps dry off the window. W/O AC you will be constantly wiping (or more accurately smearing) your wet interior window all the way home.

Not exactly sure why you want to ice stake uphill when you are having trouble with a simple thing like hard starting. But good luck

 

pwnt

well it's not really that simple now is it?