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Old May 31, 2001 | 12:38 PM
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what about bosch or denso/irudium i am really gonna feel a difference between plugs ?
Old May 31, 2001 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by loup1276
what about bosch or denso/irudium i am really gonna feel a difference between plugs ?
Consider buying original equipment replacement spark plugs from one of the Nissan dealers which sells factory parts at a discount.

Brown and Brown Nissan, Tempe AZ
Parts department: 800-237-0003
http://www.brownandbrowntempe.com/parts_form.cgi

Courtesy Nissan, Richardson TX
Parts department: 800-527-1909
http://www.courtesyparts.com/

Garrands Nissan , Plattsburgh NY
(advertises genuine Nissan Parts at 25% off list price.)
Quote line: 800-339-2922
info@garrands-nissan.com

West Broad Nissan, Richmond VA
http://www.westbroadnissan.com/nissanparts.htm

Vester Nissan, Clinton NC
1-800-572-2005

When you contact any of these dealers be sure to mention you got their name from the Nissan newsgroup.
Old May 31, 2001 | 12:51 PM
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Just use the oem plugs and be happy you have the right ones.

For a better price(ie.. about $10/plug I think) try courtesy Nissan or www.tacomanissan.com for discount oem pricing

Originally posted by loup1276
what about bosch or denso/irudium i am really gonna feel a difference between plugs ?
Old May 31, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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what about bosch or denso/irudium i am really gonna feel a difference between plugs ?
Do us a favor and DO NOT put anything but NGK plugs in there. Nissan engines are fairly picky about plugs. You can get a six pack for $51.48 plus shipping from:

- If you don't want to deal with people, use Nissan Auto Parts Dot Com:

Part Number: 22401-1P1S5VW (order quantity of 6)
https://secure.formysite.com/nissana....com/database/

Cost: $51.48 + minimal shipping

- If you want to deal with people, use Courtesy Nissan:

http://www.courtesyparts.com/secondtier_a32.html

Cost: $51.48 + more for shipping (usually)

Shouldn't be more than $60 delivered to your door.
Old May 31, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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you can go to http://www.nissan-accessories.com/ click on tune up and then tune up kits and u can get a whole servicing kit for around $75
Old May 31, 2001 | 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by kevlo911
you can go to http://www.nissan-accessories.com/ click on tune up and then tune up kits and u can get a whole servicing kit for around $75
how hard is it to replace the plugs myself? I've seen couple "how to"s but couldn't quite seem to get it... I did learn how to do it during my high school auto engine tuneup class, but forgot em all....
Old May 31, 2001 | 02:36 PM
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what about bosch or denso/irudium i am really gonna feel a difference between plugs ?
I got my NGK Iridium's from Monarch Products, a wholesaler. They are a rep for NGK. Got them for $6.40 each! Their number is 1-888-800-9629.
Old May 31, 2001 | 02:59 PM
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Spark plug replacement

Originally posted by seanqlee
how hard is it to replace the plugs myself? I've seen couple "how to"s but couldn't quite seem to get it... I did learn how to do it during my high school auto engine tuneup class, but forgot em all....
This job is easier than it might appear at first glance.

1) Remove front bank rocker cover ornament.
2) Disconnect six ignition coil harness connectors. Three are found under
the ornament. Three more are found nestled among the plenum runners, in
plain view, closer to the windshield than the three which were hidden under
the ornament.
3) Loosen ignition coil fixing bolts and pull out six coils from the intake
manifold connectors.
4) Use a spark plug socket, a long extension, and a ratchet handle to remove
the spark plugs.
5) I recommend using a tiny dab of anti-seize compound on the threads of the
new spark plugs.
6) Tighten the new plugs to 14 - 22 foot-pounds.

See http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/sparkplug.html

See also Chapter 8, "Do It Yourself", in your Maxima Owner's Manual.
Old May 31, 2001 | 03:07 PM
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Re: Spark plug replacement

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin

This job is easier than it might appear at first glance.

1) Remove front bank rocker cover ornament.
2) Disconnect six ignition coil harness connectors. Three are found under
the ornament. Three more are found nestled among the plenum runners, in
plain view, closer to the windshield than the three which were hidden under
the ornament.
3) Loosen ignition coil fixing bolts and pull out six coils from the intake
manifold connectors.
4) Use a spark plug socket, a long extension, and a ratchet handle to remove
the spark plugs.
5) I recommend using a tiny dab of anti-seize compound on the threads of the
new spark plugs.
6) Tighten the new plugs to 14 - 22 foot-pounds.

See http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/sparkplug.html

See also Chapter 8, "Do It Yourself", in your Maxima Owner's Manual.
heh, seems doable. Thanks daniel. I'll give it a try when i get them ngks.
Old May 31, 2001 | 03:11 PM
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Re: Re: Spark plug replacement

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heh, seems doable. Thanks daniel. I'll give it a try when i get them ngks.
Don't use a Philips screw driver to loosen the coils because they might strip. Use a ratchet.
Old May 31, 2001 | 04:54 PM
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I got my NGK Iridium's from Monarch Products, a wholesaler. They are a rep for NGK. Got them for $6.40 each! Their number is 1-888-800-9629.
How do you like them, can you tell a big difference in the iridiums? How much was shipping and how long did it take to get them?
Old May 31, 2001 | 07:48 PM
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I have the denso iridium spark plugs. They were a little difficult to gap, but I think they are nice. I paid $12 apiece for them. I'm sure they can be obtained cheaper. Also, the heat range on the iridiums is much wider, and because I bought the lower heat range (due to the fact that i'm going to be getting a S/C soon), they run smoothy. I haven't had any problems with them yet...

Hope this helps...
Old May 31, 2001 | 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by cvannote


I got my NGK Iridium's from Monarch Products, a wholesaler. They are a rep for NGK. Got them for $6.40 each! Their number is 1-888-800-9629.
What is the part number for the plugs you got?
Old May 31, 2001 | 09:09 PM
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Try this site

http://www.nissanparts.cc/

The plugs will run you about $47
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 12:27 AM
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Anything similar to the OEM plugs should be just fine --

I once bought those Bosch +4 plugs and the service tech at Nissan adamantly objected to them -- saying that he had done 3 other Maximas with the same plugs and ended up with driveability problems --

My room-mate put in those same Bosch +4 plugs in his Integra GS-R a while back and he didn't like them -- says that his low end got sluggish --

Maybe they are better suited to lower compression "oldies" engines...
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 01:24 AM
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since i'm still new here, i have to ask, what's so special about these plugs compared to conventional style ones? i'm used to spending like 2-4 dollars per plug usually for my jeep.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 05:06 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chris j vurnis
Anything similar to the OEM plugs should be just fine --

I once bought those Bosch +4 plugs and the service tech at Nissan adamantly objected to them -- saying that he had done 3 other Maximas with the same plugs and ended up with driveability problems --
I have them in my car now. Runs very smooth.

My room-mate put in those same Bosch +4 plugs in his Integra GS-R a while back and he didn't like them -- says that his low end got sluggish --
They do make the car feel a little less powerful in low RPM ranges but I can drive the hell out of one full tank of gas on highway trips. My range right now is 463 miles.

Maybe they are better suited to lower compression "oldies" engines...

They did make my old Toyota truck run better.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 07:55 AM
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Ahh...the dealer's favorite word....Driveability problems.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by chris j vurnis
Anything similar to the OEM plugs should be just fine --

I once bought those Bosch +4 plugs and the service tech at Nissan adamantly objected to them -- saying that he had done 3 other Maximas with the same plugs and ended up with driveability problems --

My room-mate put in those same Bosch +4 plugs in his Integra GS-R a while back and he didn't like them -- says that his low end got sluggish --

Maybe they are better suited to lower compression "oldies" engines...
I don't agree. That service tech is right (Heaven help me, I'm agreeing with a service guy at a Nissan dealership).

NGKs are the ONLY plugs that should go in a VQ, VE, or VG Nissan motor. My direct and indirect experiences with these motors have helped me to see that running anything else can cause VERY hard to find "driveability" problems. Basically, they don't run "quite" right without NGK plugs.

I'm still clueless as to why something can be so finnicky....
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 08:28 AM
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I don't agree. That service tech is right (Heaven help me, I'm agreeing with a service guy at a Nissan dealership).

NGKs are the ONLY plugs that should go in a VQ, VE, or VG Nissan motor. My direct and indirect experiences with these motors have helped me to see that running anything else can cause VERY hard to find "driveability" problems. Basically, they don't run "quite" right without NGK plugs.

I'm still clueless as to why something can be so finnicky....
I will be going back to the NGK's after this go round too.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 09:20 AM
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Garrand's Nissan (who's number is listed by Dr. Martin at the beginning of this thread) has the OEM NGK's for $8.25 each. They offer about all Nissan parts at a discount. I've purchased Nissan oil filters, plugs, belts, etc from them and have been very happy. They have a 800 number, are nice, and ship pretty cheap. If you buy much at all, the shipping costs will be the same or less than the sales tax if you bought the stuff local.

Good Luck!
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What is the part number for the plugs you got?
Sorry about that the model number you need is...BKR5EIX-11

I love them, no issues at all, no need to gap either.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by chris j vurnis
Anything similar to the OEM plugs should be just fine --

I once bought those Bosch +4 plugs and the service tech at Nissan adamantly objected to them -- saying that he had done 3 other Maximas with the same plugs and ended up with driveability problems --

My room-mate put in those same Bosch +4 plugs in his Integra GS-R a while back and he didn't like them -- says that his low end got sluggish --

Maybe they are better suited to lower compression "oldies" engines...
I'm running the Bosch +4 and have had no probs at all. In fact I would say the the motor runs almost smoother then with the factory plugs. I also used the G-Tech before and after the plug change and there was a tenth second difference (faster with the 4+) 0-60. The difference was the average of five runs both before and after the change. Hope this helps.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 05:09 PM
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i'm selling the oem ones for 50.00 shipped.......
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 11:01 PM
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Stick with OEM plugs never get Bosch Plugs

Bosch Plugs suck big time! it made my GXE really slow. i felt the difference between OEM plugs and Bosch PLATINUM 4. OEM is the way to go. If you want to make your car run slow buy Bosch Plugs hehe...
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 05:36 AM
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Re: Stick with OEM plugs never get Bosch Plugs

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Bosch Plugs suck big time! it made my GXE really slow. i felt the difference between OEM plugs and Bosch PLATINUM 4. OEM is the way to go. If you want to make your car run slow buy Bosch Plugs hehe...
Now this is misinformation. Bosch Platinum +4's do not make your car run slow. In fact they are not as bad as your stating. There is a slight drop in lower RPM's and more power in the higher RPM's. And I am not saying the Bosch is better than the NGK's either. Actually the car has better passing power now and better gas mileage. Let's give this guy the correct information.
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 09:06 AM
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well on the contrary you need to be informed that the Heat Range (that is if you can define what heat range means ) of Platinum Bosch 4+ is "Not in Compliance to the OEM Heat Range for the 1996 Maxima. Let me ask you this do you know the Heat Range Technical Data for Platinum Bosch.? If you do know then you are obviously a Bosch Employee, hehehe.. that is the problem i had with Bosch people they donot disclose that information. This is the source of the problem when your maxima run slow with Bosch that tells u right there that the heat range of those plugs are not in spec to the OEM heat range.
Do you know what Heat Range your OEM plugs are for your Maxima? if not you need to be informed. let me know and i will tell you the OEM heat range ;-)
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 09:26 AM
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Re: Re: Stick with OEM plugs never get Bosch Plugs

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well on the contrary you need to be informed that the Heat Range (that is if you can define what heat range means ) of Platinum Bosch 4+ is "Not in Compliance to the OEM Heat Range for the 1996 Maxima. Let me ask you this do you know the Heat Range Technical Data for Platinum Bosch.? If you do know then you are obviously a Bosch Employee, hehehe.. that is the problem i had with Bosch people they donot disclose that information. This is the source of the problem when your maxima run slow with Bosch that tells u right there that the heat range of those plugs are not in spec to the OEM heat range.
Do you know what Heat Range your OEM plugs are for your Maxima? if not you need to be informed. let me know and i will tell you the OEM heat range ;-)
Your first wrong move was to get up here and try to diss me. And second I don't give a damn about what you are saying. Show us all some documented proof that Bosch Plarinum +4's make you car run slow like you said. There are many people here to tell you that your wrong. Furthermore, you really don't know what you are talking about. Your car ran slow because your slow.

Don't talk to me about heat ranges. I only care about that when I am cooking.
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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hehehe! this proves to everyone you are illiterate about heat range definitions on spark plugs. A good driver knows what heat range is all about. I had Bosch Plats before and it made my car lagged not to mention drop on rpm. now i have the OEM plugs back on my 5speedGXE. and its fast and awesome! i strongly advice you to read a lot about cars mechanics. too bad your not that smart to know squat about technical details.
OEM plugs heat range is 5 on the NGKPFR5G-11 KABICHE!
how old are you anyway? 17? hehe
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 12:19 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Stick with OEM plugs never get Bosch Plugs

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Don't talk to me about heat ranges. I only care about that when I am cooking.
LMFAO That was really funny...
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 12:41 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Stick with OEM plugs never get Bosch Plugs

Originally posted by carlmax5
i strongly advice you to read a lot about cars mechanics. too bad your not that smart to know squat about technical details.
OEM plugs heat range is 5 on the NGKPFR5G-11 KABICHE!
how old are you anyway? 17? hehe
carlmax5 = Nordberg

Most people here have common sense on the org but I hate when someone tries to display his manhood by trying to deface someone else on the board. You said the Bosch plugs will make your car slow. Just admit when your wrong.

Hey Nordberg, I am 31 and I know a ton about cars and don't really care to prove that to you. You got a nerve to talk about who is not smart when you don't even know how to capitialize. Nuff said. It's time for you to show more of your stupidity by talking to yourself on this thread. I am done, "Nordberg".
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Monarch Products

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I got my NGK Iridium's from Monarch Products, a wholesaler. They are a rep for NGK. Got them for $6.40 each! Their number is 1-888-800-9629.


>I just called Monarch with a quote for the NGK PFR5G-11 spark plugs...he quoted me at $11.74 (not $6.40). Has anyone ordered them recently and been charged $6.40? Do I need to ask them in my nice voice?
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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Autolite platinums

What about autolite platinums? The also have platinum at both ends like the NGK's. They actually looked pretty similar. No weird stuff with the electrodes... I unfortunately put them in about 10K miles ago. Actually my engine felt a little more responsive after I replaced the NGK's at 55K miles. Should I yank them out and replace them with new NGK's? In other words, will I damage my engine if I continue to use these things?
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Re: Autolite platinums

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What about autolite platinums? The also have platinum at both ends like the NGK's. They actually looked pretty similar. No weird stuff with the electrodes... I unfortunately put them in about 10K miles ago. Actually my engine felt a little more responsive after I replaced the NGK's at 55K miles. Should I yank them out and replace them with new NGK's? In other words, will I damage my engine if I continue to use these things?
That's because your part number is for Platinums, the part number for the Iridium IX plugs is BKR5EIX-11 they are $6.40 each
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 11:17 AM
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Re: Autolite platinums

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What about autolite platinums? The also have platinum at both ends like the NGK's. They actually looked pretty similar. No weird stuff with the electrodes... I unfortunately put them in about 10K miles ago. Actually my engine felt a little more responsive after I replaced the NGK's at 55K miles. Should I yank them out and replace them with new NGK's? In other words, will I damage my engine if I continue to use these things?
Leave the Autolites in the engine. They won't do any harm.

Some Maxima owners have been dissatisfied with the Bosch +4 spark plugs. They report an irregular idle and stumbling on acceleration. If you are satisfied with the way your engine runs with the Autolites don't change a thing!
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 07:20 PM
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Re: Re: Bosch Plat +4s

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Leave the Autolites in the engine. They won't do any harm.

Some Maxima owners have been dissatisfied with the Bosch +4 spark plugs. They report an irregular idle and stumbling on acceleration. If you are satisfied with the way your engine runs with the Autolites don't change a thing!

My vote is Bosch Plat +4s. Put them in at the 60K service and my Max purrrrrrs. No problems here.

Cheers

BTW, BrianV is running the Autolite Titaniums. Might want to ask him how they run. They must be ok or he'd have changed them out by now. Geeez, the guy gets new tires every month! Wish I was so lucky. Brian, if you're out there, we have the same car how about sending me your cast offs

Cheers
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 10:19 PM
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i talked to coz@ultimatez.com and i got a set of ONE STEP COLDER plugs specifically for the maxima for 49.50, they are NGK plat's. i think the OEM ones are the same. just email him and tell him your from maxima.org
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 10:37 PM
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I ran +4's in my 95 for half a year with no problems and I just recently put them in my 99 and they are just fine. I am amazed at how strange people act about this. Of course Nissan tells you to use there plugs!!! that way they can charge way to much and get away with it. As long as you use a quality plug with the correct gap and heat range you will be just fine. All the plugs do is make a spark!! a spark is a spark is a spark!!!! The nice thing about +4's is that the spark is open to the cylinder as apposed to regular plugs which has a electrode blocking the spark. Plus with 4 electrodes to share the work the gap stays in spec longer. Just like a gattling gun that uses six barrels, even though they fire faster than a regular machine gun, the work is shared between six barrels to the work is spread loaded. That is why they can fire for much langer without overheating than a regular machine gun. If somebody can make a valid debate as to why only NGK plugs work in our cars I am more than happy to have a debate with you guys. I am not starting a fight I just would like to clear up this constant debate on this forum.
Later everybody.
Old Jun 16, 2001 | 12:36 AM
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It's worth it for peace of mind.

If you put autolite platinums into your car like I did, it runs fine. But everytime I feel a vibration or car is not pulling hard enough, I wonder if they have something to do with it. It's illogical, but with OEM, you know you are OK.
I ordered some NGK's and will be putting them in next week.
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Let met know if you car changes after you swap out the Autolites for the NGK....



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