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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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omg this sucks

ok I have a pretty long story that ends in a horrible tragedy for you folks that like that kind of thing.
It all began today at a stoplight. I was rolling at about 5 mph, the light had just turned green. I hear screeching tires so i'm like wtf and I look in my rearview and the car behind me is cocked at about 20 degrees and smoke is coming off the tires, he stopped about 2 feet from hitting me. I should have taken this as a bad omen, but the day could have easily ended better if he had hit me. Anyway, we're cruisin along, me and my friend were well on our way to mc. donalds to get some dinner. I decide to pass the guy in front of me so I can get some space between us and the obvoiusly horrible driver behind us before the next stop light. Normally this wouldn't have been a big deal, but as I was about to find out, I was cursed.
So I shove her in second, knowing that our speed was around 50-55. We wind it out for like 1/2 of a second till we hit the limiter. No big deal, I pulled her out of gear and aimed for third. Now third in my max is a strange sort of beast, it is very difficult to get into and has the scary tendancy to push the shifter towards first gear when it sticks. Therefore I was not alarmed when it felt hard to put it in gear, so I gave it a good shove and it popped in to a gear. I pulled out the clutch. This was not third gear! I slammed the clutch back down but it was too late, something had broke, the clutch had no effect. I watched in horror as the tach pulled hard till it bounced off the stop. I pulled to the side of the road.
I was in shock, I still am. On a rountine trip to mc. donalds I had destroyed a 4000$ car. I should have known, I've hit 1st at least twice before when aiming for 3rd, I should have replaced the synchros long ago or at least double checked what gear I was in. The other two times I was lucky, I pulled the clutch out before the engine was dragged past the redline, and all I got a was a little scare. This time, the clutch fused together or something before I pulled it out, I still don't know exactly what happened to it.
Anyways, I pulled to the side of the road and assessed the damage. The clutch pedal was stiff, like the clutch had fused together. I tried to start the car and it would not start. I realized that the clutch was not working so I put her in 1st and tried to push start the car. It started but it was misfiring like hell. I drove the car without the clutch onto a side road and called a tow.
My analysis tells me that the clutch is definitely fried but the tranmission is okay(I was able to shift through all 5 gears without the clutch). The engine I have no idea, I can only hope for the best. I'm guessing I bent some valves and i'm hoping thats the worst of it. From the feel of it I think I screwed up 2 cylinders. It would idle in neutral but not well. I have a small hope that the engine is fine, because the MIL was not flashing, just solid on(which is normal on my car bcuz rear o2 sens is bad), and I have heard that the MIL flashed when the ecu detects a misfire.
I must be the biggest idiot in the world for destroying my car by a missed shift, I want to curl up and die right now. I'm posting to ask what I proabably need to replace, and if, god forbid, someone else has done the same thing as me.
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Happens quite a bit actually.

Where did the tach go.. how far 'off the top'?

Pull your codes anyway.
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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it happened so fast I don't really know how high it went. I think it bounced off of the stop(past the numbers) so maybe 9k? I'm guessing I would be much better off if the clutch hadn't failed but it's too late for "what if" now.

Thankfully my dad is an ex-mechanic so we can fix all this ourselves, but i'm still worried that this will be a multi thousand dollar repair. I don't know how i'm going to explain it to my dad. I drove it fine for 1 and 1/2 years and never got a speeding ticket or hit nothin. Put 10000 miles on it and then I slip up for a second and it's toast.
I'll pull the codes tomorrow and see how bad the ECU thinks my engine is f*****
It's so ironic how things happen sometimes. Just today I had asked my friend who was the better stick driver, me or my buddy, and he said my shifts were better. Hah, guess not. It's also kinda funny cuz I was passing so I wouldn't get hit by the guy behind me, and I jacked my car up more in the process. At least insurance would have paid for the car crash. Its ALSO funny because we just ordered the repair manual a few days ago because we were gonna rebuild the tranny next summer(bearing failiure defect). The manual should be here in a few days.
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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If worse comes to worst, you can pick up another engine for a few hundred bucks, and another clutch and flyhweel for the same.. if the tranny is fine, you can be up and running with a day of work swapping the engine and $5-600 with a junkyard engine and clutch/flywheel.
www.car-part.com

first step though is to determine how bad it is.. run a compression check on it and see what's there.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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What's that smell? Ah got it ... *COUGHCOUGH* 3.5 that beast!!!
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck. Maybe it's tiime to do the dreaded manual to autotragic conversion.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Ive had my car misfiring before. I got no flashing lights, just a solid CEL. I had unplugged a coil and forgot to reconnect it. Hopefully your motor is ok, but if not..........

Time for a VQ35 homie
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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Wow man that totally sucks...
Did you figure out what you wannted to do?
I would just do the 3.5 swap and new tranny and fly...Ask your parents for a loan if you don't have enough money. And tell them that you will pay them BLANK about of money every month....
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sunten101
Ask your parents for a loan if you don't have enough money.
Hate you kids these days But at least you're on the right track in paying them back
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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hmmm I just checked engine codes, ironically it reported nothing but the rear heated o2 sensor(which was already bad). I find it hard to believe that the ecu wouldn't notice such a horrible misfire, so I have drawn a hopeful but very unlikely conclusion. I think the vibration might be caused by whatever exploded inside the clutch housing. Is it possible that the flywheel got totally owned? I think this because the engine runs smooth above idle and still has quite a bit of power(i gave it about 2/3 pedal for a second and it felt pretty normal). I don't know what could break to cause such an unbalance, but I know the ecu can sense misfire, and think it would at least throw a code.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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well for anyone that cares, I now have two choices. I could try to sell off the car as-is and get another (pos) car to replace it, or I can try to fix it. Being the stubborn *** I am, I think I will try to fix it. I'm gonna buy a 300$ beater as soon as I can find one to hold me over till I can afford to fix the car. I will tear the heads off soon if it fails a compression test(very likely) and see the extent of the damage. If it isn't so bad i'm going to try to fix it myself.
If the damage looks really expensive I guess i'm in the market for a vq35, as long as the swap is relatively easy and cheap. While i'm at it I figure I might as well throw in a rebuilt junkyard turbo and have myself a healthy, near 400 hp, 4th gen maxima.
btw, whats the cheapest I could get a running vq35 engine for? I'm guessing around 1100$ but I really don't know.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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mark will def. not get an autotragic. he lives a block away from me and hes the reason i got my max. it really sux that this happened mark, but then again, you couldnt drive to school anyway. the 3.5 is what we are going to do. my mr2 will need a engine hoist anyway, so i'll foot that bill. and if you need a car i'll talk to my uncle about it.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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to continue what i was saying, lemme know if you need a ride anywhere, and i'll drive you to look at/for beaters. my uncle could get you a sub 1000 car easy, he comes across them every day at his honda dealership. hopefully he can find you a 5spd crx. those are the cheapest cars i've ever heard of and half of them have near perfect engines. and this is def. your sign to get off your *** and start doing good in school and stuff. maybe then you can get a 3.5 turbo and a working car again. and even repaint your car with a good gun, without your dad
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Sorry to hear of your misfortune, but from the tone of your post I thought you were leading up to somebody getting killed or seriously hurt. I was a bit relieved to hear it was just mechanical damage.

Engine or transmission damage is pretty low on the scale of tragedies, all things considered.

Check the all motor forum stickies for some good information on the VQ35 swap. You might want to opt for swapping in a DE-K motor, which is quite a bit less involved than the VQ35.
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