my buddy has a stage 2 ACT clutch kit in his 97 maxima, part number NM1-HDR4, it includes the xtreme pressure plate and 4 puck disk, the car is usually his daily driver and its just so damn touchy to him he wants a smoother engaging clutch, now ive heard u can take the street/strip full face disk and use it with the xtreme pp

is this true?

if so, he was looking to buy the street disk, but the cheapest ive found it was 150 plus shipping, are any maxima.org vendors ACT dealers, if so who or can someone tell me how much they could get it for?

i believe the disk part number is NSD007S, i found it on this page
http://www.coximport.com/act/nissan.html

also the xtreme is rated at like 450hp and the street is like 360hp, if he uses the xtreme pp with the street disk would it also hold around 400hp?

 

Yes you can put a disc in there, will make it smoother

 

Do not belong together.

What is he trying to do?

 

I'm lookin to replace my stock clutch on my '96 I30 with the street/strip disc, and considering the lightweight flywheel as well. anybody know where i can get a good deal on the ACT combo?


THANKS

 

Run away from ACT as fast as you can.

For normal bolt-on modifications - Clutchnet Disc and Pressure Plate.
For over 250hp (boosted/nitrous) - Clutchnet 6-puck Sprung Hub all the way.

www.clutchnet.com


And believe me - I know - Old ACT after 1 run at the track:

 

ACT organic disk don`t worth for ****
there pressure plate are good enough tho. I would use the xtern PP with a 6 puck sprung disk.

 

dude u must suck at driving, i have the same clutch in my sr'ed 240 with well over 70 runs last year at the track, with multiple 12 second runs, and my clutch still grabs like new

but yeah u never know ive seen good clutches go out really quickly, guess it depends on driving style or somethin

why run from ACT, exedy makes them and they are one of best clutch companys there is

also he ran that clutch because he is S/C runnin 10psi, so he figured that was the way to go when he was shoppin for one

 

Ian does have a s/c with 12psi. He had a bad experience with act, we all have opinions. I had a bad experience with clutchnet sending me the wrong clutch and not knowing it until it was installed... I went back to an act.

 

Maybe you got a bum clutch?? I had about 79k on my ACT with multiple passes at the track, Nitrous, and drag radials... Clutch never gave any problems at all.

 

1) I'm 13.5 PSI
2) I was on slicks and admittedly hooked up high
3) The Clutchnet has been run far harder than that ACT since then and has never skipped a beat
4) The ACT PP also had warped my flywheel (Fidanza) because it is too aggressive. Had to buy a whole new flywheel. This is a major part of the failure since the disc could not get full contact on the flywheel.
5) I've seen many ACT CLutches fail on this forum - I have yet to see a Clutchnet fail. Mardigrasmax has run quite a few 11 second runs on a Clutchnet on slicks and has daily driven it for 50k miles, as an example.
6) If you're buying a clutch there is no reason to not get the most proven and best one. I believe the Clutchnet is.
7) If you don't agree - then buy an ACT. No reason to be uncivil about it and imply things that you have no idea of - such as driving skill.

 

you go boy.

 

My ACT Max Extreme PP and ACT 6 Puck disk is much quieter and smoother them the Clutchnet 6P. The solid hub in the ACT disk prevents chatter, the springs in the CN actually invite it. The on off points are more quick on the ACT. I really prefer the ACT set up. Actually beleive it or not I'd say the Max Extreme PP is as light or lighter than the CN Red PP at the pedal. This is because the CN is a modified stock diaphram. The ACT Max Extreme is a completley new double thick laser cut diaphram and the pivot points are modified to keep the pedal pressure as low as possible. The holding power in a clutch system is the pressure plate. The Disc material is a small factor in this holding but more a factor in abuse and heat control. The ceramic/metalic material will stand up to back to back abuse MUCH better than organic because it disapates heat much quicker.

I would like to add that I did switch to a Fidanza FW, braided steel clutch line and a new clutch slave cylinder witht the ACT ME 6P set up. This may have had a small impact in the clutch performance, but I still feel that for me the ACT ME 6P is superior in all aspects to the CN 6P Red.

FWIW
ACT ME 6P will hold ~660 ft/lbs a the crank
and IIRC the ACT ME with their organic disk will hold ~400 ft/lbs at the crank

 

yah yah, well u throw that pic up there and say ACT is junk, what did u expect me to say, ok ill throw my ACT away and buy a CLUTCHNET yeah!!!!!

just kiddin, but anyways anybody know where to get the disk for less than $150, and someone please confirm that the NSD007S disk will work with the xtreme pp, i dont wanna buy the wrong disk

 

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Yeah, 13.5psi! My clutchnet was only contacting about 50% of the FW. On top of that it was the oe replacement Anyway, both are good in there own ways. Personal pref. Maybe it depends on which coast you live on...

 

I only posted the pic to show my experiences....

Ian's views are the property of IanCo International and are not necessarily shared by the users or owners of the Maxima.org Forums or community.
There - better?

Mardi - wow - didn't know you switched - you used to love your Clutchnet.
Sorry you got chatter - mine never chatters.....wonder if that had something to do with the OE Flywheel you were using being heavier?

 

Ian,
That pic looks familiar. Probably because when I pulled out my ACT it looked just like that. I totally agree with you. I will never buy another ACT clutch for my daily driver again.

 

I have to aggree with Ian. Ever since I had my ACT street setup I would get chatter, chatter, chatter...I would avoid driving my car because of the chatter. Absolutely didnt like the ACT. I had the tranny pulley to change the clutch out and I had a EXedy Stage 1 put in. This was before boost. Now that I am boosted, my next clutch will be CLutchnet most definetly. I would never buy an ACT ever again. I also had to replace my flyhweel do to warping from the ACT clutch disc. Total crap

-matt

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=439735

I'm somewhere around 70k on my ACT street. Chattered like a ****, but hooked up like crazy. After getting the tranny fixed, it's as smooth as stock now, and still grippy. The "sweet spot" on clutch travel is must smaller than stock or my bro's Exedy. In fact, the Exedy feels like stock.

Anyways, my ACT has been through a few roadcourse track days, but that shouldn't matter if you're clutching right. I'd recommend it if you're not boosted or doing any harsh shifting. Oh, and new ACT pressure plate is around 1.5mm (definitey less than 2mm). So I got a long ways to go on mine.

Jae

 

Every act I have taken out of my max has looked like that. I think the chatter issue involves proper adjustment. Im not saying any of you can't adjust your stuff right. I take clutch adjustment to the mall parking lot, at walmart or anywhere. I keep a 14/12mm wrench with me to fine tune. I cant stand chatter either. Like Matty said it make me not want to drive the damn thing. I found if you mess with it enough there is a sweet spot.

Purchased a clutchnet 6 puck but traded Jamie for an act...Never actually tested the cnet yet.

On a side note- I bet Iansw's max hauls arss! Im currently boost deficient w/blower on way to vortech

 

How many ACT clutches have you been through?
By clutch adjustment do you mean the nut behind the clutch pedal itself?
I'm still such a newb.

 

I know the ACT strip/street will NOT hold with boost/big juice and slicks. One or the other and it will probably be fine. I think Hal ran his ACT for a while even with the 500+tq, but once he slapped the slicks on there is was over.

There are some people who like ACT and some who don't. Clutchnet seems to be gaining a lot of support among those with big power. The biggest thing is to get a clutch that matches your power/drivability goals. Break in is also very important.

You most likely can use the Xreme PP with the street/strip disk. Whether it will be the average of the two in power rating is questionable to say the least. ACT can answer these questions very easily. They have a phone number and email just for questions like this.
MardiGras is not running a 4 puck disk so that should tell he probably had far too aggressive of a disk.

 

well i still can't decide what's the best setup i want to run with my supercharger that's on it's way. I'm running Fidanza flywheel for sure since i just brought it. I want a streetable clutch that can hold around at least 350 to the wheel. looks like many of you guys are pro clutchnet. If so, which one of the clutchnet clutch and pp would be the best setup for my hp.